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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 10:01 AM Nov 2013

I have a response to everyone that doesn't understand why maternity coverage is required.

Not every person gets pregnant, but every person is born - and good prenatal and childbirth care prevents many long term health problems.

We all share the costs of poor prenatal care - and it's cheaper to share the lower costs of preventative care.

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I have a response to everyone that doesn't understand why maternity coverage is required. (Original Post) ehrnst Nov 2013 OP
So many in America do not have "the social" mindset. I have riversedge Nov 2013 #1
Our sense of community is very exclusive, not inclusive. CrispyQ Nov 2013 #12
There is that social contract that nobody actually signed The2ndWheel Nov 2013 #29
Agree completely in sharing cost. Plus, I bet amount we all pay, ain't more than a dollar or two Hoyt Nov 2013 #2
I don't have kids, but I pay for public schools. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #3
Exactly - the cost of bad public education is shared by all. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2013 #4
But the bad education itself, is shared by all. RC Nov 2013 #11
You mean Sharter Schools? WowSeriously Nov 2013 #17
welcome to DU gopiscrap Nov 2013 #27
Why thank you! WowSeriously Nov 2013 #31
you're welcome gopiscrap Nov 2013 #35
What private enterprise do you pay to for the public schools? Fumesucker Nov 2013 #7
I'm talking about paying taxes. I said nothing about private enterprises. n/t Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #8
You said you couldn't understand the difference Fumesucker Nov 2013 #28
Whenever I need you to explain something to me, I'll let you know, mmkay? n/t Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #34
She didn't get pregnant by herself Nite Owl Nov 2013 #5
and if it is a preemie? mopinko Nov 2013 #10
Who is "they"? People without children are being asked to pay, as well. nt Romulox Nov 2013 #23
I'll never get prostate cancer. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #6
Why doesn't this site have a @$@#ing 'like' button yet? AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #20
I really don't understand why or how the dems let these issues get away from the. These are easy wiggs Nov 2013 #9
"Not every person gets pregnant, but every person is born " kag Nov 2013 #13
Same reason coverage for cancer, broken bones, or hemorrhoids is standard frazzled Nov 2013 #14
same reason everyone pays taxes to fund education scheming daemons Nov 2013 #15
I'm wondering if prostate coverage spartan61 Nov 2013 #16
i pay for many things i dont personally use. it's because i wish to live in civil society La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #18
some a-hole GOP pol actually said it's a "choice to have a child" ZRT2209 Nov 2013 #19
That's been said right here at DU gollygee Nov 2013 #24
it is not consistent with progressive or democratic views, it is a Handmaid's Tale view ZRT2209 Nov 2013 #25
You won't hear disagreement on that point from me. Nt gollygee Nov 2013 #26
Exactly. We ALL benefited from maternal care at some point. SunSeeker Nov 2013 #21
This is *for-profit* insurance. Not taxes and guaranteed care, but premiums and guaranteed profits. Romulox Nov 2013 #22
- and they will be making less profit for delivering more care- than ever bettyellen Nov 2013 #30
That's not what Wall Street traders are betting on! Romulox Nov 2013 #32
because so many more people will be insured, and that is awesome! bettyellen Nov 2013 #33
You just said they'd be making less profit. Guess that doesn't make much sense, huh? nt Romulox Nov 2013 #36

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
1. So many in America do not have "the social" mindset. I have
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 10:04 AM
Nov 2013

been listening to Wash Journal this am and it boggles my mind of those --some post menopausal women who call in about this. Also folks who call in and say--my kids are out of school--why should I pay for education now. It just goes on and on.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
12. Our sense of community is very exclusive, not inclusive.
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 10:58 AM
Nov 2013

I think the digital age has made it worse. So many people now conduct business in their here-&-now communities, while connected to their virtual communities. I've seen more & more businesses post signs that they will not wait on customers who are on cell phones. Makes sense to me. If you want your order right, then be fully present to give it. I won't even go into the lack of common courtesy these days, cuz I sound like an old fart already.

There is a resentment of the community pot, because someone might get something they don't deserve, or someone might get more than they deserve. It is the mentality of two year olds.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
29. There is that social contract that nobody actually signed
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 01:33 PM
Nov 2013

Your consent being implied by your birth. A nation of 300+ million people, and all that really holds us together are taxes, that you're forced to pay under threat of penalty, and have little if any direct choice in how much you pay, or what you pay for(unless you're wealthy and have good lawyers I guess).

You have distant government authority, with one person "representing" far too many people to actually represent them at any given time, coupled with the technology mentioned in another response which makes people need each other even less outside of collective tax money, and I'm not sure where a social mindset is supposed to come from any of that.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Agree completely in sharing cost. Plus, I bet amount we all pay, ain't more than a dollar or two
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 10:06 AM
Nov 2013

a month.

Women are paying for prostate cancer, erectile problems, etc.

Like many things, I think we men come out ahead on this one. So I'm not complaining, and it is just good for our country/society.

Anyone complaining about this, is just being Tbag stupid.
 

RC

(25,592 posts)
11. But the bad education itself, is shared by all.
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 10:54 AM
Nov 2013

By contributing to the race to the bottom.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
7. What private enterprise do you pay to for the public schools?
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 10:15 AM
Nov 2013

Around here public schools are supported by taxes paid to the government, I did not realize there were other arrangements in different parts of the country.

Nite Owl

(11,303 posts)
5. She didn't get pregnant by herself
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 10:10 AM
Nov 2013

they should accept this as their responsibility to the iife they helped create.

wiggs

(7,814 posts)
9. I really don't understand why or how the dems let these issues get away from the. These are easy
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 10:44 AM
Nov 2013

cases to make as you've done. These are easy issues.

Preventative health care is one cornerstone of ACA. Everyone who has insurance should be covered for preventative care...helps everyone in the long run in many ways. Contraception and prenatal care are basic health care needs in the preventative category and must be covered.

Your employer does not get to choose where or how you spend your compensation for work...that goes for your insurance coverage they contribute to as well.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
14. Same reason coverage for cancer, broken bones, or hemorrhoids is standard
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 11:14 AM
Nov 2013

Not everyone is going to get cancer, but a policy should be required to cover that medical eventuality. Do we bicker about having to cover other people's cancers?


spartan61

(2,091 posts)
16. I'm wondering if prostate coverage
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 11:29 AM
Nov 2013

is also mandatory. I'm female and therefore don't have a prostate but I sure do hope it is covered for our male population. We need to work together for the health of all of our citizens. This complaining about maternity coverage is ridiculous.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
18. i pay for many things i dont personally use. it's because i wish to live in civil society
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 11:39 AM
Nov 2013

and not some sort of experiment in social darwinism

ZRT2209

(1,357 posts)
19. some a-hole GOP pol actually said it's a "choice to have a child"
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 11:46 AM
Nov 2013

Oh it is!? Since when is the the tea party taliban line?

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
21. Exactly. We ALL benefited from maternal care at some point.
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 12:49 PM
Nov 2013

We weren't hatched. We came out of a pregnant woman, who if we were lucky, had maternal care.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
22. This is *for-profit* insurance. Not taxes and guaranteed care, but premiums and guaranteed profits.
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 12:53 PM
Nov 2013

Arguments about altruism and the good of the whole fall flat when you realize that Aetna, Cigna, et al get to make a profit, cemented in law, or we are denied care.

That's not socialism. It's corporatism.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
30. - and they will be making less profit for delivering more care- than ever
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 02:05 PM
Nov 2013

- so the problem is lessened.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
33. because so many more people will be insured, and that is awesome!
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 04:54 PM
Nov 2013

I am paying a bit more, and don't mind- because I could actually quit my job and afford insurance instead of that ridiculously expensive Cobra coverage. And because my old policy was so shitty they deny coverage using technicalities all the damned time to me and my coworkers. Everything was pre existing. We are thrilled this will change.

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