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Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 11:47 PM Nov 2013

Hey, Bill Fucking Maher: YOU CAN GET ON THE HEALTHCARE.GOV! Try it before buying into wingnut

talking points!!!!

I've been hearing this tripe from so-called Left political commentators all week long:

You can't get on the healthcare.gov website! You can't get on the healthcare.gov website!

YES YOU CAN GET ON!!!

I've been testing out the website all week long. On my Mac as well as my PC. On all times of the day when I get a chance and get breaks. On peak times, on off-peak times!

It's a fucking lie!!!

You CAN get on the site!!

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Hey, Bill Fucking Maher: YOU CAN GET ON THE HEALTHCARE.GOV! Try it before buying into wingnut (Original Post) Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 OP
Maher sometimes missed the mark, like when he complained about CA raising taxes. SunSeeker Nov 2013 #1
And just a few weeks ago his "New Rules" were all about how CA is creating a tblue37 Nov 2013 #18
Wow! You tell 'em legcramp Nov 2013 #2
See my response below. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 #6
Can you complete registration, get your results, Hissyspit Nov 2013 #3
I've actually been able to navigate all the way through, sign up and compare plans. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 #5
Well, that sounds good. Everyone's mileage Hissyspit Nov 2013 #9
I hope you're right. Fingers crossed. Call Darrell Issa's office. The Republicans are trying to Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 #11
Maher is not left or liberal lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #4
Maybe not to you, but my point remains. There have been plenty on the left who are claiming Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 #8
He is on many issues, and is not on some others, where he is more libertarian. tblue37 Nov 2013 #19
Somebody has gotten to Bill Maher and Jon Stewart. Can't watch either one much any more. libdem4life Nov 2013 #7
Jon Stewart tries too hard to be "even-handed" and goes way off the mark to prove he's unbiased. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 #10
Also he got too intellectual, I guess when interviewing serious people. libdem4life Nov 2013 #13
"Somebody has gotten to Bill Maher and Jon Stewart." They are enterTAINers, NOT journalists... cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #14
Oh come on, even Archie Bunker was hilariously political. You didn't get half of it if you weren't. libdem4life Nov 2013 #17
"Archie" was a fictional character and Jon Stewart reads from a script written by 40 people. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #23
You did know that Archie was satire, right? I watched it every week. And Jon Stewart is on libdem4life Nov 2013 #25
These people can be as bad as the right-wingers, just repeating talking points BlueStreak Nov 2013 #12
It really depends on your location ohheckyeah Nov 2013 #15
Yes, I know. But note that I tried BOTH the federal site and my state site. And also note that the Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 #21
That's great but it ohheckyeah Nov 2013 #22
Which site? The federal or your state? And I do hope that the federal is 100% up and running for Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 #24
My state didn't do a site ohheckyeah Nov 2013 #28
Bill Maher is a comedian goldent Nov 2013 #16
Yes, I get that. But in this day and age where people have given up on the "news" and now rely Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 #20
You are right that some people get their news from comedians goldent Nov 2013 #27
I tried yesterday to create an account and could not. DesMoinesDem Nov 2013 #26

SunSeeker

(51,564 posts)
1. Maher sometimes missed the mark, like when he complained about CA raising taxes.
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 11:56 PM
Nov 2013

He suggested he would move, much like all the wingers were saying. Well, he's still here. Hell, judging by traffic, the population is exploding.

tblue37

(65,394 posts)
18. And just a few weeks ago his "New Rules" were all about how CA is creating a
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 12:47 AM
Nov 2013

much better society under the new liberal Democratic regime, by raising taxes, providing services, legalizing marijuana, etc.-- and how because of the size of the state's economy, CA would ultimately force all the others to follow its newly successful model.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
3. Can you complete registration, get your results,
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 11:59 PM
Nov 2013

find your insurance, and then purchase it?

Just getting on the website is not the whole issue.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
5. I've actually been able to navigate all the way through, sign up and compare plans.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 12:00 AM
Nov 2013

Luckily Maryland also fixed its site, so I've been able to get through there as well.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
9. Well, that sounds good. Everyone's mileage
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 12:03 AM
Nov 2013

may vary, but I hope everything is running near perfect by the end of the month.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
11. I hope you're right. Fingers crossed. Call Darrell Issa's office. The Republicans are trying to
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 12:08 AM
Nov 2013

sabotage the very people who are trying to fix the damn thing by issuing subpoenas and holding hearings to tie the technicians up. They're doing this on purpose so that they can't get their work done. Assholes!

-----

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN) - A group of technology experts has a message for Rep. Darrell Issa, the Republican Oversight Committee chairman who last week disregarded the White House’s insistence that U.S. technology chief Todd Park is too busy to testify about his efforts to repair HealthCare.gov.

“Let Todd Work,” the group proclaims on a website launched after Issa issued a subpoena for Park to appear before his panel on Wednesday.

“Now, instead of continuing to fix HealthCare.gov (a mess he did not make), Mr. Park has to spend his hours preparing for his testimony,” declares the website on its homepage, before listing some of Park’s accomplishments.

“Mr. Park is a fantastic civil servant, who cares about making government more effective and accountable, just like Mr. Issa,” the group writes. “We hope that they can work together on solving the policies that enabled HealthCare.gov to fail in the first place. No matter what side of the aisle you sit on, Todd is one of the good guys. Let him do his job.”


Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/10/tech-pros-hit-issa-for-taking-park-away-from-healthcare-gov/

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
8. Maybe not to you, but my point remains. There have been plenty on the left who are claiming
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 12:03 AM
Nov 2013

that one cannot navigate the site which is not true.

tblue37

(65,394 posts)
19. He is on many issues, and is not on some others, where he is more libertarian.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 12:54 AM
Nov 2013

But his revulsion against the evil RW blowhards has led him over the past several years to push the liberal agenda more often than not.

BTW, as much as I like Jon Stewaert, he also is not always reliably liberal--especially in his tendency to push the false equivalency "both sides are guilty" meme and in his sucking up to a number of RW blowhards.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
7. Somebody has gotten to Bill Maher and Jon Stewart. Can't watch either one much any more.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
Nov 2013

I kind of sense it's their networks. Or, it's just that they were before their time and had to cut a more centrist message...kind of like politicians. They are not nearly as funny as before, either.

I think Colbert still is OK because a lot of righties still think he's for real. Kind of like the Court Jester.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
13. Also he got too intellectual, I guess when interviewing serious people.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 12:29 AM
Nov 2013

Colbert just loves to make them squirm. That blank look they get cracks me up.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
14. "Somebody has gotten to Bill Maher and Jon Stewart." They are enterTAINers, NOT journalists...
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 12:30 AM
Nov 2013

If they found out they'd get better ratings next week by telling you scientists at Johns Hopkins discovered MEAL WORMS dreamed of dominating the UNIVERSE, but only between the hours of 3am and 4pm... "Bill and Jon" would put someone on TV who would advocate fishing ONLY with EARTHWORMS.

They so smart...

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
17. Oh come on, even Archie Bunker was hilariously political. You didn't get half of it if you weren't.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 12:44 AM
Nov 2013

And journalists ... lately just a cut above car salesmen ... definitely don't have the franchise on reporting the truth, or even caring what the truth is...they just made it clear. And don't get me started on the 60 Minutes blonde bimbo with her cleavage...LOL. Not their job, remember? Anyway, most don't have an original thought in their head.

Bill Maher and Jon Stewart bill high profile intellectuals, political and public intellectuals. And they are far from dummies with meal worms or whatever. That's part of their schtick. They are political. They get paid a ton of money. It's just that they've both lurched to the Center-Right., IMO.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
23. "Archie" was a fictional character and Jon Stewart reads from a script written by 40 people.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 01:30 AM
Nov 2013

"Archie" was a composite of the worst of American Society in the 70's.

Some people (read LOTS OF DUers) think Jon Stewart is giving them "Truth", as in speaking TRUTH to POWER. Jon Stewart is laughing his way to the bank, and on his way, he's stopping in at dinner parties thrown by the Koch Brothers. He says things we as DUers think are cool though, so we think HE'S cool. Jon doesn't give a fuck, as long as HIS kids can attend the finer schools...

Bill Maher? Misogynist ratings whore... Prove me wrong.

The line between journalist and comedian has been blurred for a LONG time. Journalism went from "disseminating" information to "telling the public what I think", and having it be taken as truth. Editorialism has become the new journalism.

I'd bet that a DU poll as to whether Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert were "journalists" or not would wind up pretty much 50/50.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
25. You did know that Archie was satire, right? I watched it every week. And Jon Stewart is on
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 01:46 AM
Nov 2013

The Comedy Network, and he is a wealthy Jew. He pokes fun at that a bit and also his writers. He pretty much makes fun of all sides, as well, IMO. But I just watch a clip here or there anymore.

Bill Maher truly makes fun of everyone, especially religions, and makes every one squirm...including those at his table. But I don't get HBO so only see him in clips anymore.

Maybe it's just me...making fun of people is what seems to pass for comedy in the entire culture...tv, movies, mightclubs. So that's probably my own issue.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
12. These people can be as bad as the right-wingers, just repeating talking points
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 12:12 AM
Nov 2013

That isn't a surprise. But who is the genius from the left who decided this would be a good talking point for every damn "Democrat" to repeat over and over?

I know a few individuals are still having trouble making a connection on the website, but this seems to be isolated cases now. The system at large has been working pretty well the past two weeks. You most certainly can do all the shopping you need to do for plans. I don't know how smooth the actual enrollment process is yet, but these assholes obviously haven't even asked an intern to take 15 minutes to check it out.

With friends like this, who need enemies?

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
21. Yes, I know. But note that I tried BOTH the federal site and my state site. And also note that the
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 01:24 AM
Nov 2013

Maryland site was one of the sites that was not functioning for quite some time and was written up in the papers, along with healthcare.gov as being a failure by a progressive governor. The Republicans went after Governor O'Malley, too. They would not let up on him, and the Washington Post crucified him for weeks. (Tell me again how the media is liberal?)

Anyway, I was able to do all I needed to do to compare plans, save my data because I'm still going through that process. There's too much to choose from and I have some really good ones, too.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
22. That's great but it
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 01:29 AM
Nov 2013

isn't everyone's experience. It took me two weeks to get to the compare plans stage. I had to keep entering the same info over and over again. Half of the time the site was down for maintenance or just timed out.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
24. Which site? The federal or your state? And I do hope that the federal is 100% up and running for
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 01:34 AM
Nov 2013

EVERYONE by the end of the month. But these people are acting as if it is down and no one can sign up and that's not true.

goldent

(1,582 posts)
16. Bill Maher is a comedian
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 12:35 AM
Nov 2013

Comedians play fast and loose with the facts to get a laugh. I wouldn't worry about it.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
20. Yes, I get that. But in this day and age where people have given up on the "news" and now rely
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 01:21 AM
Nov 2013

on comedians (Jon and Stephen) for their news, it may do damage. Bill needs to be careful and more responsible.

goldent

(1,582 posts)
27. You are right that some people get their news from comedians
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 11:52 AM
Nov 2013

and it isn't healthy, IMHO.

But I don't think Bill Maher, Saturday Night Live, etc, have to let it restrict them.

The reality is that healthcare.gov is going to be the butt of jokes for some years to come.

 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
26. I tried yesterday to create an account and could not.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 01:47 AM
Nov 2013

Today I tried again and the create account button actually worked instead of doing nothing. There are still problems for lots of people.

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