300,000 Floridians' health policy cancellations undone

[ProSense]

300,000 Floridians' health policy cancellations undone

by Joan McCarter

This is an interesting twist in the whole "keep your health insurance plan" skirmish, especially for insurance companies whining about how it just can't be done. About 300,000 cancellation notices have been sent by Florida Blue to customers who would have to switch out of their existing plans to ones that meet Obamacare standards. But after President Obama's announcement yesterday of an administrative fix. Then this happened.

According to the state's insurance commissioner, the insurance company is holding off on the cancellations. It should be noted as well that these cancellations did not mean people were going with or went without coverage. They were being shifted over into Affordable Care Act-compliant (that is, richer and, in some cases, more expensive plans).

Those who've received cancellation notices "will get new ones offering them the option to remain on their existing plan through 2014 if they choose." Which is pretty much what America's Health Insurance Plans' (AHIP) president and CEO Karen Ignagni, said was an impossible thing to do. Not so impossible after all, apparently.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/15/1255924/-300-000-Floridians-health-policy-cancellations-undone

It was all a BS lie (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023948905), and now they've been called on it. Still, this isn't likely to stop some Dems from handwringing instead of calling out the media and insurance companies on their BS.

More Dems like Bernie Sanders, please.

Bernie Sanders on junk insurance policies
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024037863

An Obamacare "Loser" Speaks Out ... About Not Being an Entitled Douche
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024040716

[spanone]

1. k&r...

[CFLDem]

2. Kicking the can...

only leads to more can kicking.

[ProSense]

4. How many of those 300,000 people

now know that they can find a better plan on the exchange?

The reason the insurance industry tried to spin this as a problem is because they knew they were exposed.

House Republicans take 47th vote to repeal Obamacare
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024039493

[CFLDem]

5. How could they not know before?

I find that to be pretty condescending to assume they were so brain dead to not know about the health exchanges that have been advertised and talked about for years.

Either the law means what it says or it doesn't. When it comes time to pick up the can, they'll just kick it again for another reason.

Right now they are valuing the perfect over the good.

[ProSense]

7. You have to hand it to the insurance companies

They're able to exploit anti-Obamacare and anti-Obama sentiments to get people to declare they love bullshit private insurance that doesn't cover much. These predators have found a bunch of allies who are lauding the virtues of private insurance for a selective group.

[CFLDem]

8. Open enrollment recently closed at my work

and I had to hear every anti-Obama bullet point for the last few weeks.

I tried to explain the advantages but most just want to wallow in their ignorance I guess...

[Major Hogwash]

3. Front page news in Florida.

So you can be sure that David Gregory won't mention it tomorrow on Press the Meat.

[Dawson Leery]

11. David Gregory(R)

[giftedgirl77]

6. Why can't we at least pretend to live in a country

where more than half the people running the place aren't either evil as hell or just dumb as dog shit. The dog & pony show using average Americans as pawns out of spite is bullshit & played out.

[sheshe2]

9. K&R

[cthulu2016]

10. That is very good news

[ProSense]

14. It's proof that the insurance companies are full of shit. n/t

[Pinkflamingo]

12. Of course they will renew those plans, because the State Insurance Commissioner has been banned

from challenging rate increases. McCarty may not negotiate rates for the benefit of consumers as pasted by GOP legislation....so I'm sure the insurers are happy to renew the crap they've been selling.

[freshwest]

13. K & R for my Journal reference on ACA falsehoods.

ProSense,

I wish you would put all your threads in your Journal as a kind of DU libary for all of us...

[RBInMaine]

15. I do say he should be more pointed about the JUNK plans, but he also should have been more nuanced

in his statements in 09 and that is just the truth. He has to own that. He did not lie by any means, but he also should have been clearer. So he has a fine line to walk here. And you see that Bernie basically agreed that he did what he had to do politically and said he should have been more nuanced in his stump speeches. But then Bernie PIVOTS to the narrative about this being JUNK insurance. Bernie is GREAT.

Now what we need to do is talk about "JUNK PLANS" and. as the grassroots. call out the insurance industry on this. Obama has done said it too, but just isn't being real forceful on it. Other Dems and the grassroots need to step up and do that because Obama does have to be the President of everyone including those in that individual market who are getting screwed over by the insurance companies.

[Morphia]

16. Because the ACA was implemented without a Public Option people were and are not motivated to switch

insurance policies. The IRS penalty was and is not a penalty at all but makes a great club for the RW to use against the Democrats and to stir up the RW anti tax base.

What SHOULD have been in the ACA is:

1. An opt out option, as in I do not want to have medical insurance.
2. Eliminate the law that makes Hospital ER's treat those without insurance.

This would have a two fold effect. It would put the responsibility for health care on the individual and hospitals and the tax payers having to pay for those without insurance.

You get sick or injured and don't have insurance or the CASH to pay for treatment, too bad so sad YOU should have gotten Medical Insurance gee I hope you at least pre paid for your funeral and burial expenses, those cost allot too.

These RW a$$hats want to live in a Ayn Rand World, give it too em and see how long they can go Gault.

[ProSense]

18. Yeah, it could have

"What SHOULD have been in the ACA is:

1. An opt out option, as in I do not want to have medical insurance.
2. Eliminate the law that makes Hospital ER's treat those without insurance. "

...been called the "you're on your own" clause or the "SOL opt out."

[B Calm]

17. Well it wasn't like we didn't tell Obama that

at the VERY LEAST give us a Public Option.

[ProSense]

19. You think the

people screaming to keep their shitty insurance plans would have switched to the exchanges to pay for a public option? It would still cost more than the junk policies they want to keep.

[B Calm]

20. Regardless, they would probably stayed on their shitty plans

and forced the rest of us to pay their hospital bills when they filed bankruptcy. No matter what they say, Personal Responsibility is NOT a republican trait!