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DURHAM, N.C. (AP) - The woman who falsely accused three Duke University lacrosse players of rape was convicted of second-degree murder Friday in the stabbing death of her boyfriend.
The jury deliberated for about six hours over two days before reaching its verdict in the trial of 34-year-old Crystal Mangum, who was sentenced to between 14 years and 18 years in prison.
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http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/article/346022/81/Duke-lacrosse-accuser-found-guilty-of-murder
cigsandcoffee
(2,300 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)bogus accusation. where would be the people defending this woman?
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Ms. Mangum claimed at the time in 2006, that she had been sexually assaulted at the party hosted by the Duke Lacrosse team. She maintains today that the assault did take place. That is what makes her a victim.
Whether or not you believe her, or whether or not the attorney general believes her is irrelevant. She made the claim, and that makes her a victim. It has not been proven otherwise.
I try to be as accurate, objective, and fair-minded in my blogs, flogs, and other writings. Unlike the biased mainstream media which refers to Mangum as the accuser in the Duke Lacrosse case. Although this is technically correct, it tends to be a bit misleading as she was also the victim in the case. Therefore, I include both terms when referring to Ms. Mangum as I believe that it is most truthful.
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I've actually read about this guy in some of the Carolina papers. Apparently there is a cottage industry of defending Mangum and Nifong and soliciting funds.
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)Can we all ride that train?
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)An accusation does not a victim make.
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)Still claims the lacrosse players are guilty despite all evidence to the contrary.
"For awhile, I had to listen to how the poor dear lacrosse players at Duke are being persecuted just because they held someone down and fucked her against her willnot rape, of course, because the charges have been thrown out. Cant a few white boys sexually assault a black woman anymore without people getting all wound up about it?"
She has a regular spot at Slate.com.
hlthe2b
(102,278 posts)Things do come full circle sometimes.....
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Yes you're right. When you put it like that, it makes my remark seem unnecessarily flippant, which I didn't intend.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Unfortunately, she will eventually get out of prison, and I have no doubt that she will ruin even more lives.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Is a 4% conviction rate for rape too high for you?
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Only every minute of the day and completely wipe from my mind what the OP said in other threads fifty times today?
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)by convicting innocent people.
That seems wrong to me.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)I never said anything of the sort. You have no idea of the context of this discussion.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)if that's the context you're talking about.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)pnwmom
(108,978 posts)Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Rape is abhorrent. Rapists should rot in prison; I think we all agree with that. However, no innocent person should ever go to prison for any crime unless that person is proven guilty.
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)I can't imagine the dark ages chaos were that reversed.
Accusations must be proved, beyond a reasonable doubt.
That standard hopefully holds up much better in our justice system than it does on DU.
on edit: I don't see any other way to read BB's post.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Unfortunately, we read all too often about people who have been exonerated after spending decades in prison for crimes they didn't commit. I think that sometimes the desire to blame somebody for horrific crimes outweighs prosecutors' and jurors' obligations to make sure the right person is punished.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)I don't know where you got that statistic. I do know that when the Duke case broke a lot of us were attacked for saying "let's wait to see the evidence."
Good thing we waited before just going ahead and castrating those privileged little bastards, eh?
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Decaffeinated
(556 posts)Hope she rots...
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)When I read stuff like this
"He admitted Mangum was in the bathroom when he kicked in the door and that he grabbed her by the hair. He said as they continued to fight, Mangum tried to stab him several times before stabbing him in the side of the chest as he stood in the hallway."
Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/11/22/3396116/jury-in-mangum-murder-trial-continue.html#storylink=cpy
That does sound like self defense to me. Dude kicked in a door and attacked her. How is that NOT self defense? Because at some point he tried to walk away? Well, the story, supposedly HIS story says "as they continued to fight".
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)The fight was over. You can't stab somebody after the fight is over even if you're still pissed. Apparently, according to the story, the forensic evidence supported his version of the story. The fact that she claimed that he choked her down and tried to stab her but that she had no injuries on her certainly didn't support her version.
JVS
(61,935 posts)her victims adequately. She had a history as a a dangerous criminal and should have been in prison for the safety of the general public.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)not to prosecute her for falsely accusing the Duke players of rape and also not to re-try her for the charges that the jury deadlocked on in her previous assault and arson case.
Yeah, this woman was (and is) a time bomb. She even wrote a book after it was proven (one of the players she accused was at an ATM when she claims he was raping her) that she made false rape allegations. There is no doubt in my mind that she will ruin more lives when she gets out of prison.