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Wed Nov 27, 2013, 03:38 AM

I think Ted Cruz is in the closet.

I'm going to get flames for this speculation, but every time I see him, I think of the way I felt about other politicians Ken Mehlmen before they came out or Larry Craig before they were exposed. I guess it would explain why his dad is so homophobic.

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Reply I think Ted Cruz is in the closet. (Original post)
RandySF Nov 2013 OP
TexasTowelie Nov 2013 #1
dchill Nov 2013 #2
Kennah Nov 2013 #4
Kurska Nov 2013 #3
Ichingcarpenter Nov 2013 #8
Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #14
bulloney Nov 2013 #16
hlthe2b Nov 2013 #21
WCGreen Nov 2013 #50
SummerSnow Nov 2013 #27
backscatter712 Nov 2013 #46
juxtaposed Nov 2013 #5
MADem Nov 2013 #6
indepat Nov 2013 #55
davidpdx Nov 2013 #7
Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #10
davidpdx Nov 2013 #15
struggle4progress Nov 2013 #9
Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #32
Swede Atlanta Nov 2013 #85
struggle4progress Nov 2013 #88
icymist Nov 2013 #11
Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #33
libdem4life Nov 2013 #37
icymist Nov 2013 #12
Name removed Nov 2013 #13
Buns_of_Fire Nov 2013 #17
giftedgirl77 Nov 2013 #22
zabet Nov 2013 #18
FSogol Nov 2013 #19
pintobean Nov 2013 #20
A HERETIC I AM Nov 2013 #23
Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #24
RandySF Nov 2013 #25
BainsBane Nov 2013 #26
Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #42
BainsBane Nov 2013 #48
RBInMaine Nov 2013 #28
Stinky The Clown Nov 2013 #29
madinmaryland Nov 2013 #30
Aerows Nov 2013 #31
Jamastiene Nov 2013 #34
Lex Nov 2013 #38
gollygee Nov 2013 #35
Iggo Nov 2013 #68
Eleanors38 Nov 2013 #36
KentuckyWoman Nov 2013 #39
bettyellen Nov 2013 #45
U4ikLefty Nov 2013 #51
Skittles Nov 2013 #54
KentuckyWoman Nov 2013 #61
Silent3 Nov 2013 #40
Starry Messenger Nov 2013 #41
Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #43
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DemocraticWing Nov 2013 #49
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NYC Liberal Nov 2013 #56
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Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #58
Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #66
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malokvale77 Nov 2013 #60
Mopar151 Nov 2013 #62
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Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #64
cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #65
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Iggo Nov 2013 #67
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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 03:47 AM

1. That's just great Randy.

Your suggestion about Ted will trigger numerous cases of impotence and erectile dysfunction in the gay community.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 03:53 AM

2. Not to mention a late night run on anti-emetics.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 03:55 AM

4. Heh, the straight community suffers Bachmann Palin Overdrive.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 03:55 AM

3. I think Ted Cruz is some reptilian creature wearing the skin of man. n/t

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Response to Kurska (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 04:30 AM

8. He reminds me of a character Tom Tomorrow would dream up

What's up with that 50's hairdoo?
I didn't think you could buy Brylcreem anymore

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 06:03 AM

14. He has a very odd shaped head. Sort of like a distended lima bean.

I'm not sure what sort of hairdo would help for that kind of head shape, but the creepy slicked back 50s used car salesman look sure aint it.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 06:39 AM

16. Cruz kind of reminds me of Mr. Haney on the old sitcom "Green Acres."

Haney's the shyster who sold the dilapidated farm to the Douglas' and always tried to make a buck selling junk to them.

Cruz certainly fits the personality of Mr. Haney. He comes across as a snake oil salesman to me.

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Response to bulloney (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 08:00 AM

21. Yes.. I can see that..

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 03:27 PM

50. It seems to me that he has a Messianic view of himself...

And the arrogance that goes with it...

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Response to Kurska (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 09:00 PM

27. Like "V"



lol

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #27)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 11:25 AM

46. Whoa! Newt Gingrich! n/t

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 03:56 AM

5. I don't think he's gay. The fist time I saw him, his eyes, and hands creeped me out. Look at his ha

nds when he was on stage with pistol palin.
There i go about fisting again

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 04:02 AM

6. He probably thinks he is in some sort of closet...

He's in a dark, dark place and cannot see things clearly...probably because he has his head wedged so far up his ass.

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Response to MADem (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 05:16 PM

55. Teddy surely could see more clearly were his head not so far up his

ass.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 04:21 AM

7. I think he's is the anti-christ

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 05:02 AM

10. I thought the Antichrist was supposed to be attractive.

That rules out Cruz.

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Response to Blue_In_AK (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 06:20 AM

15. Well you got me there...

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 05:00 AM

9. I generally prefer not to know too much about people's personal lives

IMO Ted's entitled to his private life, whatever it may be

I also think he's entitled to keep his private life private

And, let me add, I sure do hope he does keep it private, because I'd really rather not know anything at all about it and try really really hard to avoid thinking about him anymore than seems to me absolutely necessary for political reasons

It's been a psychological commonplace (for quite a long time now) that learning about a persons's sexual proclivities teaches us almost nothing else about the person

So there are gay Republicans -- just as there are certainly gay just-about-anything-elses too

I expect that, for the foreseeable future, I'll continue to consider Ted an off-the-deep-end round-the-bend completely-certifiable wack-a-doodle, and whether or not he's gay is pretty much irrelevant to that




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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 09:39 PM

32. ++

I'm sure there is a reasonable argument against
your sane point of view, but not from me.

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 01:18 PM

85. As an openly gay man I agree but........

 

I cannot tolerate individuals who are closeted to themselves and/or their friends and families in positions of political power that use that power to work against the interests of LGBT persons.

If he is gay he voted against ENDA. But he would have to having been raised by that nut-case father that spews so much venom, none of which is rooted in the Christian Bible. If he is gay he probably is so self-loathing it spews out in his hatred for women, minorities, LGBT persons, the poor, etc.

Hypocrisy is something I will not abide. I have absolutely no problem having a politician or someone in a trust position such as a clergyman being outed for their utter hypocrisy.



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Response to Swede Atlanta (Reply #85)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 02:24 PM

88. Of course, if you can prove he's gay, then his hypocrisy is fair game: one can dropkick him

across the country as a dishonest and manipulative opportunist, without doing unintended damage to the underlying civil rights issues

On the other hand, it seems to me (as an old straight white male), that claims he is gay (without adequate evidentiary support) can only have electoral effects by playing into anti-gay prejudice, which IMO does potentially damage the underlying civil rights issues



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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 05:15 AM

11. He's got too much riding on his staying in the closet...

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Response to icymist (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 09:53 PM

33. delusions of divinity... one after another they appear. W thought he was chosen; Mitt for sure was,

the great white mormon hope; and Cruz, born to
an insane egomaniacal megapastor who has raised
his son to a place On High.

It will be interesting to watch it all unravel.
I had the distinct impression there was flirting
going on with Sister Sarah. He is Errol Flynn
for Jesus and America.

"He was known for his romantic swashbuckler
roles... and his playboy lifestyle."
(<---plagiarized from wikipedia)



I really know almost nothing about the guy except he gives me the
awful creeps.

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Response to icymist (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 11:59 PM

37. Latinos nor Hispanics want to identify with him ... he's a Canadian Cubano American.

Three countries and cultures rattling around loose in there. But the quote is right on.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 05:33 AM

12. Uh Oh... The gay-O-Meter...

................Straight.....Bisexual.....Gay.....Flaming

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 06:40 AM

17. Maybe, maybe not -- but he SHOULD be.

I'm not talking gay or straight, here -- I mean his rebubbabuddies should, for their own sake, just lock him in a closet somewhere. Let him out every full moon to feast on babies' blood and toss him a commoner every now and then to satisfy his hunger for human flesh.

I've never seen such an outright creepy person -- and keep in mind, I lived through the Nixon era.

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Response to Buns_of_Fire (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 09:15 AM

22. I suggest the very same thing about a week ago.

It would make everyone's life so much easier. They can throw his crackpot daddy in there with him.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 06:55 AM

18. Please...

there is ample crap to talk about that idiot without speculating on his sexual preference. Plus it is disrespectful to others 'in the closet' to throw that stinking fool in there with them.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 06:57 AM

19. One day he will come out and admit that he is....

an opportunistic asshole. Of course, everyone already knows that.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 07:10 AM

20. You should get flamed

for posting this speculation without any supporting argument. What characteristics and/or actions of his have caused you to feel/think that he's gay?

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Response to pintobean (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 09:23 AM

23. He looks like one.

Plus, he turned me into a Newt.




I have yet to get better.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 10:00 AM

24. If he's bad, he has to be gay? Is that the thing? His strident homophobia, loud religiosity, his

wife and two kids don't have any impact on you? To me, he is the very picture if not definition of the Straight Community.
While DU runs around slandering gays and adoring anti gay clerics, you folks miss out on the big charade of Ted's dad, 'crazy preacher' who is in fact and in reality an oil man and his wife who works at Goldman Sachs while they all pretend to be grassroots regulars....
Is this 'slime the gays every day' routine part of the Pope Francis Promotional?

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 08:54 PM

25. Jim McGreevey has two kids of his own.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 08:55 PM

26. I can't believe this is still here

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #26)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:55 AM

42. It's the influence of the Francis Fan Club, now being anti gay is seen as super liberal!

Also it is 'progressive' to oppose contraception and to say women are not equal to men. It is the Franciscan Era theme, 'liberal' means 'hate gays, oppose condoms and make sure women keep their place'.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #42)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 02:23 PM

48. I agree with your overall political assessment of things

but it isn't a result of the Francis fan club. I see no cross over between the Francis fans and misogynists, but there may indeed be with homophobes.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 09:02 PM

28. Lindsey Graham is DEFINITELY gay, and if Cruz isn't married or with a woman, he may well be too.

Why don't they just come out? It is a shame they are too worried about being who they are and right winger backlash over this. Sad.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 09:17 PM

29. I *really* think this would do better if you self deleted.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 09:20 PM

30. Oh, ffs. Shame him with the gay?? Who gives a shit.

Fuck this.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 09:23 PM

31. I think Ted Cruz

should be in a straight jacket.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 11:09 PM

34. Right, because you have a feeling about somebody you do not like,

that MUST mean they are gay. Poppcock! Bunch of homophobic crap.



This shit makes DU suck, BIG TIME!

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Response to Jamastiene (Reply #34)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 12:03 AM

38. Seriously. Plus, remember how DU'ers said Dubya and Rove were gay.

Because, well, just a feeling that they must be.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 11:21 PM

35. How is this not hidden?

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Response to gollygee (Reply #35)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 10:04 AM

68. Because it's a popular attitude around here...

...to think that if a person is a complete fucking asshole, that person has to be secretly gay. Bad Person = Gay.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 11:47 PM

36. Long as he's not in mine.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:36 AM

39. The Gay is not a weapon.

Never have understood why people do that.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Reply #39)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 11:23 AM

45. homophobia. disturbing to see the OP doesn't get it.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Reply #39)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 03:28 PM

51. Hypcosracy is a weapon

...and a good one.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Reply #39)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 04:49 PM

54. it's TEH GAY

GET WITH THE PROGRAM KENTUCKYGAL

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Response to Skittles (Reply #54)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 08:17 PM

61. Forgive me

I need a couple hours of LOL cats. That oughta get me back up to speed.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:39 AM

40. Yes, he's very afraid for anyone to see his Canadian side come out. n/t

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:42 AM

41. *facepalm*

He and his father are Dominionist whackjobs and bigots.

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #41)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:59 AM

43. His dad is also an oil man, his wife a Goldman Sachs minion and they play at being

grassroots radical reformers, but what's important is some straight guy who sees gay as evil. He's not an oil millionaire with Goldman Sachs health care, he's gay. See how that works?

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 11:13 AM

44. All hateful, awful, terrible, vile people are secretly gay.

At least on DU, where that has long been a popular belief.

Thanks for keeping it going!

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Response to QC (Reply #44)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 12:14 PM

82. Ya gotta love those community standards QC!

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 11:27 AM

47. That was my first thought

you are not alone in your thinking.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 03:24 PM

49. No he's not.

I checked and there's nothing in there except some laundry detergent and a broom.

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Response to DemocraticWing (Reply #49)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 03:49 PM

52. Did you look under the bed?

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 04:19 PM

53. You remind me of some of my childhood acquaintances.

"He's gayyyyy! He's so gayyyyyyyy!".

But at least they had the excuse that they were kids.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 05:18 PM

56. Right. He's a terrible person, so he HAS to be gay.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 07:01 PM

57. And if he is?

What, do we make fun of people over this now? Trying to use homosexuality - real, possible, or imagined - as a point of shame is inherently homophobic.

It's more than enough that he's a shithead. Why not stick with that?

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 07:05 PM

58. If he was in the closet? So fucking what?..nt

Your Op

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Reply #58)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 09:49 AM

66. UnRec ...nt

This OP, unlike a fine wine gets worse with age.



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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 07:18 PM

59. I think that we have a semantic discontinuity

If we can agree that there are many other kinks that one would be closeted about, than being nominally gay, then we can get past the "homophobic" part.

For instance, Rep. Vitter being in a closet because of his affection for diaper training, or Ted Nitwit being a baby-raper who disgusts his own daughters.

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Response to Mopar151 (Reply #59)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 08:13 PM

60. I was thinking pedophile

I wouldn't let children near him.

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Response to malokvale77 (Reply #60)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 11:39 PM

62. Ditto for pets and livestock n/t

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 11:42 PM

63. Who cares if he is?

 

There's plenty other things to attack him with.

This reeks of homophobia.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 11:43 PM

64. who cares? all the crap and hatred and idiocy the man has spewed is what disgusts me.

could not care less about his preference in or out of the closet.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 11:51 PM

65. This post (and this ATTITUDE) is a steaming pile of shit. This parent of a gay person hopes you're

PROUD of your post. I hope you come back to it every day and think to yourself "Look at this great thing I have done."

It's a steaming smelling putrid pile of shit and the fact DU allows it to stand is ALSO a steaming smelling putrid pile of shit.

Be proud. Be very proud of putting your homophobia out there for all to see.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #65)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 10:31 AM

69. Thank you.

From a gay man.

Nothing more to add.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 09:56 AM

67. And you should get flamed. Mightily.

There's a million things wrong with this guy.

But there's absolutely nothing wrong with being gay.

Un-fucking-believeable.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #67)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 10:32 AM

70. +1

This thread should be locked

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Response to Iggo (Reply #67)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 10:39 AM

71. I missed the part where the OP said there was anything wrong w/being gay.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #71)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 10:42 AM

72. Its fair to say the intent is derogatory

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Response to Boom Sound 416 (Reply #72)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 10:45 AM

73. fair in whose eyes? someone expressing fake outrage?

If anything, the OP is an attack on the closed-minded bigots like Ted's father.

*if* Ted is a closeted gay or repressed or whatever (as we've seen MANY times with conservative politicians), then much of his behaviour and political beliefs can be traced to that repressed childhood and lashing out against what he might really be...out of fear.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #73)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 10:50 AM

74. I understand your point

And agree we've seen it in the past.

But the spectrum of responses argue the counter.

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Response to Boom Sound 416 (Reply #74)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 10:58 AM

75. because, imho, the responses are total knee-jerk, lacking in thought.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #75)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:02 AM

76. Ok, but at some point the needle tips

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Response to Boom Sound 416 (Reply #76)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:09 AM

77. i just don't think this is one of those times.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #77)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:11 AM

78. #65 doesn't seem to knee jerk to me

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #73)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:18 AM

79. So, then teh gay has made him an asshole, too. Gee thanks for

Clearing that up! Gosh- why would anyone think such baseless speculation is homophobic? Derp.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #73)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:30 AM

80. So Roland

When a gay guy (aka me) finds the OPs extrapolation that Ted Cruz (who happens to be a loathsome bigoted asshole) must be gay because, well, just because somewhat offensive that is your definition of "fake outrage".

A clue, if a minority takes offense at something directed towards them or their orientation as a pejorative calling their reaction "fake outrage" is hardly a progressive point of view. I actually would like to phrase this more succinctly but I don't feel like a hidden post today.

The theory that if someone is homophobic then they must be a repressed homosexual is complete and utter crap.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #71)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 01:22 PM

86. Yeah you did.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:32 AM

81. The closet through him out.

It has higher standards.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 12:23 PM

83. It's hard to believe this survived a jury.

Ted Cruz is an asshole. So, he's probably gay? WTF? Can we not do this shit here, please?

Self-delete doesn't have a time limit on DU.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 12:25 PM

84. If he's saying negative things about gays, you may be right...

RepubliCons always yell loudest about things they don't like about themselves.

They tend to want to legislate away their perceived sin so that an outside force does what they cannot.

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Response to w8liftinglady (Reply #87)

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 10:20 PM

89. Roy L. Cohn. That is all. n/t

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2013, 10:48 PM

91. Yes, because bad=gay...



I cannot believe this was left to stand.

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