Marissa Alexander gets Thanksgiving & early Christmas present. She was released on bond from prison

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Marissa Alexander bonds out of jail


JACKSONVILLE, Fla -- The Jacksonville mother convicted of shooting at her estranged husband has bonded out of jail.

Marissa Alexander was released just before midnight Wednesday. She is now under house arrest.

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A judge ruled in September that Alexander would receive a new trial due to bad jury instructions given in her first trial.

Alexander and her attorneys say she fired the gun as a "warning shot."


http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/actionbreaking/story/Marissa-Alexander-bonds-out-of-jail/PQj28nZmIkSPEqltjw4WCQ.cspx

[Control-Z]

1. This is excellent new!

I hope her new trial keeps her out.

[Starry Messenger]

2. k&r

[JimboBillyBubbaBob]

3. This is great news!

Peace..................

[Cha]

4. That's thrilling news for Marissa and all those who

are interested in Justice!

[msanthrope]

59. "I thought I was fixin' to die" testified the 12 year old she shot at.

http://thegrio.com/2013/07/23/from-behind-bars-marissa-alexander-awaits-appeal-yearns-for-an-emotional-bond-with-daughter/

Her jury took 12 minutes. For a reason.

[rhett o rick]

5. I wish her the best. nm

[JitterbugPerfume]

6. What a travesy of justice it is

that she was arrested in the first place!

[hack89]

12. She fired in to the ceiling over the heads of her children

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There is a reason why warning shots are a felony in most states.

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

13. And there it is!

Can't believe it took 3 hours for a member of the International Brotherhood of Zimmerman Defenders Local 18 to remind us that THIS case is sooo much different from all the other SYG cases involving white shooters.

[hack89]

14. It is not SYG when you are in a safe place and then leave it to get a gun

Which you then use to endanger your own kids instead of simply leaving the house. Telling your ex-husband "I have something for your ass" before getting your gun is also not SYG.

You are aware, aren't you, that black shooters have the same conviction rate in Florida for SYG cases than white shooters? SYG favors the shooter regardless of race. But facts like that don't fit into your world view, do they?

And BTW, go check my posts on Zimmerman - you will find that I consistently said he was guilty. I just knew it was a hard case to try because there were no eye witnesses, giving Z a huge advantage.

[lumberjack_jeff]

15. she fired through the wall behind his head.

The bullet went through that wall and into the ceiling of the room behind. IT WAS NOT A WARNING SHOT.

[TBF]

18. Warning shots are a felony

but shooting down unarmed teenagers is fair game?

We live in bizarro-world.

[hack89]

19. If I was to shoot in the direction of two children

don't you think that should be a serious crime? How about shooting blindly not know where the bullet will land - should that be a crime.

[Gray] moved to the living room where his children were. Subsequently, [Alexander] emerged from the master bedroom and went into the garage where her car was parked. [Alexander] testified she was trying to leave the residence but could not get the garage door to open. (The Court notes that despite [Alexander's] claim she was in fear for her life at that point and trying to get away from [Gray], she did not leave the house through the back or front doors which were unobstructed. Additionally, the garage door had worked previously and there was no evidence to support her claim.) [Alexander] then retrieved her firearm from the glove box of the vehicle. [Alexander] returned to the kitchen with the firearm in her hand and pointed it in the direction of all three victims. [Gray] put his hands in the air. [Alexander] shot at [Gray], barely missing his head. The bullet traveled through the kitchen wall and into the ceiling in the living room. The victims fled the residence and immediately called 911. [Alexander] stayed in the marital home and at no point called 911.

[TBF]

20. You'll address one case but not the other?

Color me surprised.

[Kaleva]

22. I've posted in the gungeon about that...

and of the woman who mistook her daughter for her boyfriend and shot her.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172134032

[TBF]

25. I'm asking about Trayvon -

I understand the concern about Marissa fighting warning shots over the kids.

[hack89]

26. I have posted many times that Zimmerman was guilty

I just knew it would be a very hard case to try because there were no eyewitnesses.

Neither case was SYG in my opinion - Z because he followed TM and Alexander because she was in a safe place and left it to get a gun and confront her ex. Her problem was there was no shortage of eye witnesses.

[friendly_iconoclast]

62. He did- were you not paying attention?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024105277#post14

And BTW, go check my posts on Zimmerman - you will find that I consistently said he was guilty. I just knew it was a hard case to try because there were no eye witnesses, giving Z a huge advantage.

[Cali_Democrat]

23. LOL. WOW

You always defend shooters like Zimmerman, but now suddenly you don't defend this person?

Gee....I wonder why.

[hack89]

27. I posted many times that Z was guilty

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Go check.

I just knew it would be a hard case to try because there were no eye witnesses. I was right and it pissed you off - I understand your frustration but that's the way life goes sometimes.

[Cali_Democrat]

31. What exactly is my frustration?

I'm just laughing at your obvious hypocrisy when defending the shooter with the lighter skin who actually killed an unarmed kid.

Thankfully other DUers are also seeing your hypocrisy.

[hack89]

33. Saying he was guilty = defending? Ok. Nt

[friendly_iconoclast]

63. Save your breath; for some, "nuance" = "the women my uncles just married"

[Thor_MN]

7. When someone shoots and kills a 72 year old person with dementia and doesn't even get held.

It's ridiculous that she was convicted for discharging a firearm in the general vicinity of someone that has a history of violence against her...

When are we going to stand up to the companies that make weapons and say "enough"?

[Jenoch]

28. Are you quite sure the children have a history of violence against her?

[Thor_MN]

35. Are you quite sure you know what you are talking about?

She was convicted of shooting near her estranged husband. I have no clue how you could misconstrue that with her children...

[Jenoch]

36. Her children were in the same room and in the

same general direction of the gunfire.

[Thor_MN]

37. But were they trying to get in the house?

Do you have an agenda or are you just being deliberately obtuse?

[Jenoch]

38. Was who trying to get in what house?

The woman left the house, retrieved her gun, went back into the house, and shot in the direction of an adiult male and some children. Those are the facts. The round went into a wall, not a ceiling. I would think a warning shot would be aimed upwards.

[Thor_MN]

39. Good thing the case isn't being decided on what you think...

I stand corrected, I thought he had been outside. Apparently the judge didn't think about if she may have been trying to protect both herself AND the children from another beating.

The warning shot went through the wall and into ceiling, so unless one is spatially challenged, that would be upwards.

[lumberjack_jeff]

40. They fled their house - from her - with their dad.

They waited outside for the cops to come arrest her. They later testified at her trial. (but only after she went to his house to beat him up while out on bail)

The bullet travelled from the handgun which she was holding, missed Grays head "by inches" angled up through the wall and into the ceiling of the next room.

How did the 12 year old describe the incident to the jury? "I thought I was fixin' to die"

Local community standards have some seriously fucked up standards of heroism. Everyone should read the link posted above before commenting further.

It is unambiguous. The charge should be attempted murder.

[Thor_MN]

42. So she was on the ground aiming upwards?

missed him by inches and yet went into the ceiling. Is he like nine feet tall? The case is about her firing the weapon, which she had a permit for, was trained in its use and managed not to kill anyone with it. Maybe she should have just shot and killed him such that he couldn't bring up irrelevant, extraneous info (kind of like someone else). Maybe then the gun nuts would be backing her...

[lumberjack_jeff]

44. Did you read the link?

Once you have, let's continue this conversation.

[Thor_MN]

49. Did you read my post?

The trial was about discharging a firearm. If you want to talk about that, please proceed. If you just want to bring up extraneous crap (google extraneous if you don't know what it means) then I guess we we are done.

[X_Digger]

45. Went into the wall, out the wall, and into the ceiling above. (See pics)

http://wchbnewsdetroit.com/2404124/fl-state-attorney-angela-corey-sets-the-record-straight-on-inside-detroit-regarding-marissa-alexander-audio/





Notice the slight upward trajectory as it exited by the refrigerator.

[Demo_Chris]

53. Yes, but some here passionately defend this woman...

I am not sure why.

[lumberjack_jeff]

54. It's because they've been misinformed in a highly deliberate and coordinated way. n/t

[Demo_Chris]

55. Some, yes, but I am not convinced that is the case with many of her supporters...

It seems many simply do not care about the facts of the case.

My hope is that they do not offer her any plea deals and go straight to trial. She belongs in prison and that's where she will be.

[Jenoch]

46. If it hit a wall, the shot was not going straight up.

Besides that, warning shots are illegal. If she felt her life was in danger, then she legally could have shot the person who was threatening to end her life or to cause great bodily harm. In most jurisdicitons, if that was not the case, it is illegal to discharge a firearm. She seems to have broken the law, and Florida law has a great penalty, albeit an unintended consequence, for doing such a thing.

[Thor_MN]

48. Oh, I agree, shooting him would have been much better

Jesus, discharging a firearm does not carry a 20 year sentence. She was in HER OWN HOUSE. She felt threatened by a person she had a protective order against for previous domestic violence. He was refusing to leave HER HOUSE.

Now if she had just chased him down the street and shot him dead (and not been black and a woman) she would be having gun nuts donate thousand of dollars on websites for her defense and gotten away with it.

[lumberjack_jeff]

50. She hadn't lived there for months. It wasn't her house.

She left her baby at the hospital to go where HE was living, thus violating the protective order, and then stayed the night waiting for him to arrive the following morning.

You clearly haven't read anything at all about this case.

She has an entirely different cadre of nuts donating thousands of dollars on websites so she can get away with domestic abuse.

Fools and their money.

[Thor_MN]

51. Hmmm...

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/

"Marissa Alexander of Jacksonville had said the state's "Stand Your Ground" law should apply to her because she was defending herself against her allegedly abusive husband when she fired warning shots inside her home in August 2010. She told police it was to escape a brutal beating by her husband, against whom she had already taken out a protective order."

So what exactly is your problem with her? I would hate to think that she is a woman, or black, or a victim of domestic violence.

[lumberjack_jeff]

52. For starters? She's a liar.

Also, she was convicted of beating Mr Gray while she was last out on bail, apparently in an attempt to influence his testimony.

Most of what you think you know about this case, including "shooting a warning shot into the ceiling" is from the coordinated lie campaign from her lawyers, family and ex-husband.

As she was going to the garage to get her gun out of her car (that she'd parked in his garage the previous night) she said "wait here, I got something for your ass." She came back in and shot it at him.
a) you're not standing your ground when you leave to go get a weapon, come back and shoot it at your intended victim.
b) it's not self-defense when you instigate it and avoid every opportunity to walk away.

She wasn't afraid. She was mad.

"I thought I was fixin to die" That was the testimony of Gray's son at whom she shot.

I have a question for you. You said that she should have shot him. Okay, what should she have done about the two witnesses who testified against her? Should she have shot them in the house or in the yard?

This time, she's going to take any offered plea deal, because she's guilty of (at a minimum) what she was convicted last time.

[Thor_MN]

56. Well, since you have no clue what sarcasm is, I'm done talking to you.

[Jenoch]

60. Unintended consequences.

I read somewhere that a Florida legislator admitted the 10-20-life law as related to guns was not intended for situations such the one this woman created. He said it was about people robbing liquor stores, etc. and using firearms to do so.

I'm not suggesting this woman should do 20 years. I am suggesting she created the situation by leaving the verbal altercation, retrieving her gun, and firing it even though she was not in fear for her life. I don't think "warning shots" are a legal use of a firearm.

[MoreGOPoop]

8. Great news!

Happy Thanksgiving, Marissa!

[onestepforward]

9. Good! Wishing her the best. n/t

[WillyT]

10. HUGE K & R !!!

[LoisB]

11. Great news!

[lumberjack_jeff]

16. Last time she was out on bail she used the time beating up the victim. nt

[tammywammy]

32. With house arrest don't they put on an ankle monitor?

Hopefully that'll prevent her from going to his house like last time.

[Decaffeinated]

17. Duck and cover kids!

She might try to "warn" you again!

[niyad]

21. good news!

[dembotoz]

24. do not trust the justice system-i would not relax until completely freed with permission to leave

florida for ever and ever and ever

[Jenoch]

29. I hope this woman does not go out and get a gun.

She used a gun in a domestic violence incident and should not possess firearms.

[Thor_MN]

43. Nope, she should just use her face to deflect his use of hands in domestic violence incidents.

[Jenoch]

47. I don't recall anyone, me included,

saying she should suffer from domestic violence.

[indepat]

30. In FL it must be o.k. for a white adult to gun down and kill an unarmed black child whereas a

black woman fearing for her life, can't fire a warning shot without being convicted of a crime carrying a 20-year sentence. The entire governance in FL is just as fuc*ed up as the above imo.

[X_Digger]

34. "Warning Shots" demonstrate that the threat isn't imminent.

Fire a "warning shot" and you've just shown that you think there is time and a possibility for the potential attacker to back off, negating the 'imminence' of your self-defense claim.

"Warning shots" are a dangerous hollywood myth that will get you put in jail.

[lumberjack_jeff]

41. She wasn't afraid, she was pissed.

She left his house, retrieved her gun from her car, returned to the house and shot it at Gray and his kids.

Pick better causes celebres.

[indepat]

57. Still think 20 year for this and zero for Zimmie ain't equitable and still think FL goverance

is fuc*ed up.

[msanthrope]

58. Both of them should be in jail. nt

[DLevine]

61. I'm very happy for her, and really tired of the lies being told.

In Rico Gray's original deposition dated 11/22/2010, he corroborated much of Marissa's testimony.

He admitted he had threatened to beat her (as he had numerous times before, which is why she had a restraining order against him). He also admitted to having beaten 4 of the 5 mothers of his children.

After he threatened to beat her, Marissa retreated to the attached garage. Rico said he knew she couldn't escape from the garage because it was locked. When she came back with the gun and tried to leave the house, he told her he wouldn't let her leave until she talked to him. She fired a shot in the air, not directed at him or his kids, and he left the house.

He later recanted all this, saying he made it up to protect Marissa. He totally changed his story.

Both kids have changed their stories at times. At one time one of the boys said Marissa shot in the air because his dad was beating her. Another time one of the boys said he heard the gunshot, but didn't see the gun. We only have Rico's word for it that the shots were fired anywhere near him or his sons. And again, he and his sons gave completely different accounts at different times.

As to why she was there that day? She had moved from their marital home, but returned to get some clothes. She did not expect him to be there at the time.

So, why did she later violate her parole by confronting him (the incident where he claims she gave him a black eye)? She went there to get his signature on medical insurance paperwork for their premature baby. After that incident, she went to the hospital for injuries sustained in an altercation with Rico. Evidently he did not require medical attention.

Believe who you will, but I believe Marissa.

[Kaleva]

64. Apparently, she and her ex are getting along just fine now

"Marissa Alexander's attorneys argued in a Jacksonville, Fla., court Wednesday that she should be granted bond pending trail because there is no longer animosity between her and her ex-husband."

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/13/21441885-florida-woman-sentenced-to-20-years-for-firing-into-wall-to-stay-in-jail-for-now

[msanthrope]

65. Which ex? Further, did he testify to that fact? nt

[msanthrope]

66. When you are under a protective order, you don't go 'get clothes' without the court's permission.

The whole point of the damn protective order is that you stay away. If the genders were reversed, would you support a man showing up to get some clothes?