How do I KNOW Obamacare will be successful? It's now "The Affordable Care Act" at Fox.

[skip fox]

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This a.m. Steve Doocy is calling Obamacare the Affordable Care Act. Once he even began saying "Obamacare" but caught himself in the middle of the first syllable and changed it to "The Affordable Care Act."

Obviously there has been a memo countermanding the memo of several years ago based on Frank Luntz's recommendation to demonized the ACA as "Obamacare."

Now Fox and the conservatives don't want a successful and popular program labeled as Obamacare, fearing it will go down in history with Obama's name on it. It would be like calling "Social Security" the "Roosevelt Security Act," giving more popularity to democrats for decades.

Ironically "Obamacare" will now stick due to the conservatives who tried to repeal it and will help Obama in particular and the Democratic brand in general for a long, long time.

Thanks Fox News!!!! Thanks Frank Luntz!!!

[KittyWampus]

1. round of applause for all DU'ers who predicted this.

[Blue_Tires]

17. +1

[CTyankee]

18. President Obama predicted it in one of his speeches a little while back!

It got a nice laugh from the audience...

[a kennedy]

30. yah, I remember that....he even laughed himself when he called it, "Obamacare"

Always love how he laughs at his own jokes.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

37. heeee!

Love how he cracks up at his own hilarity.

He should--he's got a great sense of timing and delivery.

[Cha]

68. That's right he did! thanks for the reminder, CT. nm

[lame54]

2. I'm switching too...

I've been calling it The Affodable Care Act
But now it's Obamacare

[Wait Wut]

35. Good idea.

A month or so ago, I had some RWNJ get on my case for calling it the 'ACA'. He claimed I called it that because I was ashamed of Pres. Obama. He didn't believe me when I told him that the Affordable Care Act was what it was actually called.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

42. I had the "ic" argument with a couple of stupid RWNJs a couple years ago. They insisted

that the name of our party is the "Democrat Party", not Democratic Party. These were 40-something guys who were convinced I was pulling their leg. Then I showed them several items of proof. They were still skeptical and I don't think they believe me to this day.

Right wingers are genetically stupid. They can't help it.

[zbdent]

58. On this, Ron White is correct ...

Ignorance is fixable, stupidity is fatal (and Ron White says "you can't fix stupid&quot .

Stupidity is choosing to remain ignorant.

And plenty of righties are choosing to remain ignorant ...

[nikto]

82. How do you spell Republican?

R-E-P-U-G-N-I-C-A-N

[calimary]

38. I may start doing that, too.

This is quite telling. And with steve dipshit on Pox Noise correcting himself? He's such a dim bulb he'd be the logical choice to give the game away anyway. CLEARLY some memo went out about this. Don't you DARE help add luster to the name "Obama"! This damn thing's starting to work, unfortunately. Let's back off that PRONTO! It cannot (!), must not (!) be connected to "Obummer"! We don't want to give him another win, curse him!!!

[Springslips]

62. Me too.

[skip fox]

3. Interestingly the Promos, cut yesterday, are still calling it "Obamacare."

It will be interesting what Fox promos will call it tomorrow.

[Coyotl]

4. More Republicans than Democrats have signed up, so maybe they will start calling it Romneycare

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024161245

[Lasher]

11. No, they'll give Saint Ronnie credit.

Maybe tripling the national debt is what really set things in motion way back then. How dare the Democrats steal his holy thunder?

[calimary]

39. "Ronniecare" maybe?

[jberryhill]

5. They realized the president has started saying "Obamacare"

[kelliekat44]

9. BINGO!!! nt

[spanone]

6. K&r...

[StarrGazerr]

7. Give them time

A year from now they will be calling it "The Heritage Foundation Affordable Care Act", and two years from now they will claim it was enacted under George W. Bush.

[mucifer]

8. and 40% of the voting population will believe them.

[calimary]

40. Welcome to DU, StarrGazerr!

Glad you're here! They're very good at labeling things strategically, so it would not surprise me. My suggestion is "Ronniecare" after their sainted ronald reagan.

[ms liberty]

70. LOL! Welcome to DU! n/t ( means no text below)

[painesghost]

78. Not matter what though, like all good things in government, it was all Ronald Reagan's idea! n/t

[mimi85]

83. And all bad things

are attributable to President Obama.

[skip fox]

10. I've watched the 8-9 EST of Fox & Friends and the only time

"The Affordable Care Act" was even mentioned was at the top of the hour when Doocy was asking, laughably, if the new budget deal in Congress was a distraction from the problems of "The Affordable Care Act."

One mention in an entire hour of Fox & Friends????? That's also a record!!

To be honest, Bill Hemmer called it "Obamacare" in a promo for his upcoming segment at about 8:45. It will be interesting to see if he's read the memo by the time his segment begins.

[underpants]

12. They call the segment "Eye on Obamacare"

That's the graphic while they are spewing their nonsense. They may be weening the audience off the title but as I and many others here have stated this was a huge mistake by them establishing it as his program. HUGE mistake.

[skip fox]

16. "Weening" is probably the appropriate word. They don't want to attract too much attention

With the shift.

On Hemmer's segment, he's the only one to call it "Obamacare," but no one else is calling it anything. AND it is curiously absent in terms of coverage.

[underpants]

19. 16 repetitions

An old sales trick - present your "product" 16 times and the likelihood of a sale rises dramatically. Fox uses this to establish their memes and also uses it to shift to new ones.

[maddiemom]

28. Bingo!

[klook]

71. Yes, Fox is a bunch of weeners

and whiners who fantasize they're winners.

They must be nonplussed since it appears HandshakeGate has no legs, Benghazi has petered out, and now Obamacare is taking wing. They need a new pack of lies, and pronto. I expect the early months of 2014 will reveal their next series of pathetic memes.

[skip fox]

13. Bill Hemmer is still calling it "Obamacare," but others are studiously avoiding labeling it at all.

[Dustlawyer]

14. I was talking about this the other day b/c it has been a noticeable shift. I think it is

funny as hell!

[moose65]

15. Fox News is as predictable as a Hallmark Christmas movie!

I only watch it while I'm flipping channels, so I just see bits and pieces. Back in November, it didn't matter what time of day or what show was on, they were always talking about Obamacare… it was like a non-stop onslaught. But now, it seems like they barely mention it at all! That is a sure sign of its success! They will NEVER say anything good about it, but they will ignore it. That is, until it becomes a huge success and they start taking credit for it.

I'm not sure that will work, though. They have spent so much time and energy on demonizing Obamacare that it's going to be virtually impossible to erase that from the public consciousness. Three years of non-stop demonizing, plus all the votes in the House to repeal the law. There's an endless stream of video and news stories documenting their hatred of the law. Even with media complicity, it's not going to vanish!

[Historic NY]

20. Obama Cares.....and that scares the hell out of them.

[Quixote1818]

21. Huffington Post's lead story today is 1 million people enrolled in Obamacare

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At Fox they are coming to terms with reality finally.

[groundloop]

25. Fox.....Reality...... in the same sentence!!!

Now that's a good one!

[El Shaman]

51. One Million and three-

I enrolled my clan this a.m.!!!

[El Shaman]

52. That's what Castro's brother asked....

the President, if he could enroll in Obamacare !!!

[Lasher]

22. They are clearly following instructions regarding their choice of words.

I've noticed over the years that all of the conservative talking heads start using specific words or phrases like this all at once. This is not a coincidence. Their strings are obviously being pulled, but by whom specifically? They could be following one another's example, but I don't think that is the case because it always happens so distinctly.

[ronnie624]

80. Paid Commenters Hired By Fox News To Spread Right Wing Talking Points Across The Net

The point of these fake commenters is not just to push a specific agenda. It’s also to deceive the unsuspecting public about the actual amount of support that exists for that agenda. Paid commenters use vicious attacks against anyone who posts an opposing opinion. Eventually the attacks have the effect of driving people with opposite views away from the targeted sites. This allows them to dominate the web with their fake profiles, while at the same time discouraging real people from participating in the discussion.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/10/27/paid-commenters-flood-internet/

[Lasher]

89. This sloganeering occurred before the prevalence of these internet trolls.

So I guess that's part of it, but there is more to it than that. These trolls are part of the echo. But what I'm wondering is, who gives the order?

[mountain grammy]

23. K & R for OBAMACARE, one more step towards Medicare for All.

[riqster]

27. ^^^This^^^^

It's where health care needs to be. Profit and care delivery are an inherent conflict.

[TBF]

47. From your keyboard to everyone's ears -

we need single payer health care for all.

[catbyte]

24. This is only the first step in the plot for Republicans to claim they supported it all along. They

will all embrace it by 2016. Or sooner, LOL.

[tavalon]

44. Well, Romney did, actually

and it works well in his home state.

[catbyte]

45. You'd never know it from the speed at which The Mittster backpedaled away from it, LOL

[tsuki]

26. I love the fact that the President calls it ObamaCare.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

33. Of course, next FAUX will start calling him arrogant (read "uppity") for doing that.

[truckin]

29. Excellent observation and great post! Made my day. nt

[a kennedy]

31. I will be waiting for my right wing woman at the gym to call it the ACA.

Her lot in life is to continually talk down obamacare, now I'll see how long it'll take her to call it the ACA.

[riversedge]

34. Will you grin?

[Gidney N Cloyd]

32. Jesus, fuck the bunch of 'em af FAUX. They're like bratty little children.

[SunSeeker]

36. My, how the worm has turned...

[Wounded Bear]

41. But of course, they're saying "ObamaCare" is the new "N-Word"

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So, it's really "us" that is changing the label.

[libodem]

63. Faux

Have you been reading my DU posts complaining about the disrespectful nature of not using the correct name.


Thought so.


Thanks. Keep up the good work.

[tavalon]

43. This is the reason I started calling it ACA

I knew it needed to be depoliticized quickly and that would neuter the naysayers. ACA isn't the second coming but it could be a stepstone to Universal Health care.

[Berlum]

46. Ha ha

[Arkana]

48. Interesting. Their own meme came back to bite them in the ass after all.

Whoda thunk it?

[DCBob]

49. That's like how "Obama Motors" disappeared from their vocabulary once the auto bailouts worked.

pathetic fools.

[johnnyreb]

50. LOL!

[skip fox]

53. The irony is exquisite.

[WowSeriously]

54. Exactly as the President predicted less than a month ago, I believe.

And the Fox rubes will think this is a different healthcare plan.

[Mr.Bill]

55. Whenever I am discussing Medicare with elderly Republicans, I call it Johnsoncare. n/t

[Amonester]

56. Yeah, but they count on all those who always end up voting against their own interests

to keep their legendary "short" memory...

[MynameisBlarney]

57. HAHA!!!

At my shop, we'd get calls from people trying to get us to but insurance before "Obamacare" went into effect.
When I said I'd be waiting to see what the Affordable Care Act was going to offer, they invariably asked what that was.
I would end the conversation at that point.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

59. Too late. Anyway Obama liked it being called Obamacare, before it was fashionable to call it that.nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

60. Eurasia is now at war with Oceania and now Eurasia has always been at war with Oceania. nt

[Squinch]

61. I think all of us should be adamant about calling it Obamacare. In a few months, it's going to make

them bite off their own tongues.

Which would be nice.

[Phentex]

64. Perfect! But what's not really funny...

is how many people think the ACA and Obamacare are two different things.

[awoke_in_2003]

65. Repub voters are masters of doublethink...

they can hold the belief that 2+2=4 when it has to be, and also believe 2+2=5 when the party says it is. And they are totally unconscious of holding both beliefs in their head.

[Delmette]

66. Ah Ka

That is what people in my office call the Affordable Care Act-ACA. To me it sounds like a cat coughing up a hair ball. Really, Ah Ka? Why don't they just say A-C-A? I think it is disrespectful.

[TexasTowelie]

74. It is disrespectful.

It's a take on a Hispanic term meaning fecal matter (caca).

[Delmette]

76. OMG

I never would have thought of that. Thank you for enlightening me. OMG!!!

[Lifelong Dem]

67. Something I was recently suspecting.

Good catch

[marble falls]

69. This is actually very good news!

[TeamPooka]

72. Suck it Fox News.

[caledesi]

73. How very astute of you! nt

[blkmusclmachine]

75. So they're not calling it RomneyCare or BobDoleCare, huh?! Hmmm...

[MannyGoldstein]

77. LOL. Great catch. nt

[mstinamotorcity2]

79. We expected

as much. As soon as repugs wanted in on the deal. Why their low cost health care can't have Obama any where in it. Idiots the whole lot of them.

[nikto]

81. If the ACA gets to be wildly successful...

They'll start calling it BoehnerCare on Faux.

You can count on it.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

84. "Two boys for every girl" over there in Fox News World

I thought the desired ratio was to girls for every boy.

[oberliner]

85. Fox News still uses the term Obamacare regularly

Just FYI.

[mdbl]

86. This thread should have had a warning in the title

Before flashing that photo of those idiots on the couch which caused me to immediately upchuck my breakfast.

[librechik]

87. yup, in a few mos they'll remember it's their fucking plan--And fight to defend it

against the ACTUALLY helpful Medicare for All movement, delaying the inevitable as long as possible while Big Pharma etc. squeeze the last drop of blood from the American people.

There, I've just told you your future for the next 20 years. Won't that be fun?

[great white snark]

88. Except their plan didn't cover preventative services or allow states to expand Medicaid.

What we need is more Dem Governors & state legislatures who will enact single payer like Vermont did.

[librechik]

90. all the action is going to have to occur in the states--that's where the PuKKKes are concentrating

their efforts. Individual citizens are going to have to fight them on a state by state basis, and they already have a stranglehold on most of the legislatures.

It's going to be tough--David vs Goliath on steroids.