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MADem

(135,425 posts)
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 05:59 PM Dec 2013

WTF???? Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

Apparently this little shitheel can't make up his dumb little mind!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/11/ted-cruz-nelson-mandela_n_4426584.html?ir=Politics&ref=topbar


Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest


The Cuban-American U.S. Senator from Texas traveled to South Africa as part of a congressional delegation to attend Nelson Mandela’s memorial service on Tuesday. In contrast to President Obama, who made headlines for greeting Cuban head of state Raúl Castro with a handshake, Cruz walked out of the ceremony when Castro’s turn came to speak, ABC News reports.

“Sen. Cruz very much hopes that Castro learns the lessons of Nelson Mandela,” Cruz spokeswoman Catherine Frazier told ABC News. “For decades, Castro has wrongly imprisoned and tortured countless innocents. Just as Mandela was released after 27 years in prison, Castro should finally release his political prisoners. He should hold free elections, and once and for all, set the Cuban people free.”

CNN noted that Castro's speech would be a “challenging moment” for the senator, whose father emigrated from Cuba at age 18 in the 1950s, shortly before Cuban dictator Fidel Castro came to power. Like most Cuban exiles who left around those years, Cruz’s father is a dogged critic of the Cuban government.....The Cuban-American community in South Florida harshly criticized Mandela in the 1990s for his friendship with Fidel Castro, but Ted Cruz did not seem to share their perspective.

“Nelson Mandela will live in history as an inspiration for defenders of liberty around the globe,” Cruz said in a Facebook posting last week.....


He wanted to go to the damn funeral to put his face out there.

He knew Castro was going to be there and speak--Mandela admired the Cuban regime's anti-apartheid POV.

Did he go there to MAKE A SCENE?

Shit, he probably was pissed that they didn't invite HIM to say a few words, so he could filibuster the damn funeral and read some Doctor Seuss to the mourners.

What an ASSHOLE.
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WTF???? Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest (Original Post) MADem Dec 2013 OP
Yep, it's all about Ted. louis-t Dec 2013 #1
Teabaggers rejoice...... While everyone else says "What a self-absorbed toolbag!" MADem Dec 2013 #5
"Cummings: Ted Cruz 'got an earful' from Dems on South Africa trip" Hissyspit Dec 2013 #44
You tell him, Elijah!! MADem Dec 2013 #92
Narcissist prima donna cilla4progress Dec 2013 #34
We played right into his hands. UncleTomsEvilBrother Dec 2013 #46
We did? progressoid Dec 2013 #90
Brilliant analogy nxylas Dec 2013 #118
No one gave a shit in Capetown, and all this points out is what a stupid TOOL he is. MADem Dec 2013 #93
It still isnt important quakerboy Dec 2013 #115
His walk out had as much impact as a tree falling in the forest in malaise Dec 2013 #122
I'd say he's going after the Cuban vote. Especially since his father didn't fight Castro like he okaawhatever Dec 2013 #52
I fixed the begining. KevTucky Dec 2013 #120
"Did he go to make a scene?" YES. And in all future Cruz events, the answer to Squinch Dec 2013 #2
He believes in the "I love Ted" Club, though!!!! MADem Dec 2013 #3
And coloring in coloring books. It's what he does in his spare time. Squinch Dec 2013 #9
The good thing about his coloring book is lob1 Dec 2013 #35
I don't know about that. I think he's a perfect Crayola "flu-ish gray" Squinch Dec 2013 #43
The GOP outreach to the African American community continues....unabated. Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #4
African GladRagDahl Dec 2013 #6
Mandela means a lot to the African-American community Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #10
To say nothing of the international African and world community! MADem Dec 2013 #8
He was looking for the Boer neighborhood. rug Dec 2013 #7
Maybe he split to Jo'burg and robbed Bishop Tutu's house! MADem Dec 2013 #13
First I heard about this Lifelong Dem Dec 2013 #11
LOL. The three of them together crack me up. TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #17
Yeah Lifelong Dem Dec 2013 #19
Must admit... mimi85 Dec 2013 #63
That's insulting to dried fruit... lastlib Dec 2013 #107
This message was self-deleted by its author Lifelong Dem Dec 2013 #20
Yeah, I watched the thing from before the "Please tone down the music" announcement on, MADem Dec 2013 #28
Just in case he didn't get enough camera exposure. lpbk2713 Dec 2013 #12
Unfortunately Cadfael Dec 2013 #14
+1...fortunately, I'll bet most of the people in attendance just thought he was a MADem Dec 2013 #29
I'd say you are right, MADem. sheshe2 Dec 2013 #41
ROFLMSAO!! Love it!!! lastlib Dec 2013 #65
OMG that is superb! MADem Dec 2013 #94
Makes sense Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #15
He went so that he could walk out. You nailed it. TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #16
+1 Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #23
Yep. GoCubsGo Dec 2013 #26
he's an asshole. he'll now profess that he went to Mandela's funeral then walked out...asshole spanone Dec 2013 #18
Competing with Rand Paul for Poutrage Points, perhaps? MADem Dec 2013 #22
Mighty long way to go just to grandstand, even for a jerk like Cruz Tanuki Dec 2013 #21
Maybe he figured that shit out AFTER he posted the fulsome praise of Madiba on his fb page... MADem Dec 2013 #24
I'm told that Jon Lovitz... bayareaboy Dec 2013 #57
Hee hee--sure sounds like it, dunnit? nt MADem Dec 2013 #114
He thinks it's going to get him elected President. Hissyspit Dec 2013 #42
This is what he does - TBF Dec 2013 #25
In a way, 2016 will be fun...I know a few Republicans who will "face palm" over this asshole and MADem Dec 2013 #27
Yup , now he has something he can use to get the Primary Vote JI7 Dec 2013 #30
+1 nt MADem Dec 2013 #33
Enough of this silliness... JimboBillyBubbaBob Dec 2013 #31
They don't even own the "Hispanic Voting Bloc" in Florida anymore. MADem Dec 2013 #32
Color him dickish Blue Owl Dec 2013 #36
What about Dad? hog Dec 2013 #37
Welcome to DU, hog! calimary Dec 2013 #73
That's exactly why he went.. shoulda put that together Cha Dec 2013 #38
Every Move he makes is for Publicity for Ted Cruz dem in texas Dec 2013 #39
That piece of crap still OWES US 24 billion dollars! Rex Dec 2013 #40
What kind of loser walks out of a funeral as a protest? Hissyspit Dec 2013 #45
I know...that's like something Westboro Baptist Church would do! n/t Tanuki Dec 2013 #54
Cruz went to SA to disrespect Mandela. Dawson Leery Dec 2013 #47
Why it God's good name was Ted Cruz part of the US Delegation LynneSin Dec 2013 #48
The way they do these CODELS is that they have a group of seats available, MADem Dec 2013 #95
LOLOL Skittles Dec 2013 #49
he's such a grandstanding little twit. n/t RainDog Dec 2013 #50
What an insufferable IDIOT!!! ailsagirl Dec 2013 #53
2 things . . . aggiesal Dec 2013 #51
Uh, Raul was no choir boy. MADem Dec 2013 #96
Raul's no angel . . . aggiesal Dec 2013 #111
Raul was at Fidel's side--or Che's-- throughout. MADem Dec 2013 #112
Its about the only chance he gets to actively snub Castro and get thimself in with the John ..... marble falls Dec 2013 #55
That hypocrite TNNurse Dec 2013 #56
Please be the GOP nominee in '16. Please... please... please... wyldwolf Dec 2013 #58
Typical asinine teabagger behavior. Hulk Dec 2013 #59
Another staged event. KatyaR Dec 2013 #60
I'm sure his donations shot up... liberalmuse Dec 2013 #61
To Cruz everything is political.... Swede Atlanta Dec 2013 #62
He could have just stepped out, said he was going to the restroom, then explained himself. . . Journeyman Dec 2013 #64
Was Mandela "Christian"? SoapBox Dec 2013 #66
Well, it doesn't really matter, from what I understand--the whole idea of having "Christian" ideals MADem Dec 2013 #133
Sunday on Meet The Press with Gregory explaining his actions no doubt ..more publicity. YOHABLO Dec 2013 #67
Way more than Mandela admiring the Cuban government's POV malaise Dec 2013 #68
ah, gee, about half the voicemailboxes for his various regional offices are full. niyad Dec 2013 #69
Why did they invite him? Or did he just go on his own? malthaussen Dec 2013 #70
I'm sure he was trying to start another war we can't afford PatrynXX Dec 2013 #71
An ASSHOLE? LWolf Dec 2013 #72
Yeah, that works. calimary Dec 2013 #74
Someone should ask him if he thinks we should release our political prisoners. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #75
He is just another attention whore... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2013 #76
And NOONE noticed, so he had to call the media after the fact to tell them! ROFLMFAO Coyotl Dec 2013 #77
+1,000 !!!! nt MADem Dec 2013 #97
He's been crowned King of the Seven Mountains. Kingofalldems Dec 2013 #78
Why was that piece of shit even there? RedCappedBandit Dec 2013 #79
He looked fooolish in front of the World Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2013 #80
Just Gotta Laugh Chief D Dec 2013 #81
Somebody needs to lift his passport Warpy Dec 2013 #82
Sooo... when is Pvt Manning getting released? krispos42 Dec 2013 #83
You really got to wonder how these assholes get elected. Initech Dec 2013 #84
It's Texas. Moses2SandyKoufax Dec 2013 #87
Assholes do shitty things madokie Dec 2013 #85
I hope taxpayers didn't pay for the trip. Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #86
They did, sorry. It was a Congressional Delegation. Those things, we pay for... nt MADem Dec 2013 #98
Rude Pundit gave a republicon the last word on this.. which applies directly to Cha Dec 2013 #88
+1,000 !!!! nt MADem Dec 2013 #99
Funerals should not be political davidpdx Dec 2013 #89
I can't wait until the repugs mstinamotorcity2 Dec 2013 #91
They make such a big deal over Obama's travels ... zbdent Dec 2013 #100
This is what happens when you place children in adult environments BeyondGeography Dec 2013 #101
He is just so disgusting theHandpuppet Dec 2013 #102
I agree, he is pretty slimy...nt MADem Dec 2013 #105
Clowns gotta clown Lefty615 Dec 2013 #103
They offered the seats to Congress, and some were made MADem Dec 2013 #104
Thanks Lefty615 Dec 2013 #108
Drama Queen.. sendero Dec 2013 #106
He was mad that they didn't let him sell his coloring book underpants Dec 2013 #109
Ha ha! If he'd sold crayons too, he'd have made a bundle! nt MADem Dec 2013 #113
He no doubt read his own Facebook page libodem Dec 2013 #110
I think that ignoramus is far too kind. MADem Dec 2013 #116
If you can't separate yourself from politics to be with other world leaders... Historic NY Dec 2013 #117
So here we are, doing billions of dollars worth of business with China, WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2013 #119
It's a fair question, I've pondered it elsewhere in this conversation. MADem Dec 2013 #128
This novice, trying to take on a leadership position very shortly after being elected maddiemom Dec 2013 #121
Precisely. One can hold one's views and not be an ass about it. MADem Dec 2013 #129
So true about his dad. I'm just old enough to remember the shock in this country when maddiemom Dec 2013 #136
cruz uncontrol was just pissed that the whole service Javaman Dec 2013 #123
Hee hee hee......Meee, meee, meee!!!!!! nt MADem Dec 2013 #130
Ted Cruz is a complete asshole. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #124
Would you fly in the same plane for several hours wth a loony like this? lpbk2713 Dec 2013 #125
I heard that the CODEL, which was mostly Dems, gave him some shit. MADem Dec 2013 #131
It happened when he suddenly realized... Turbineguy Dec 2013 #126
Ted Cruz did this for publicity AndyA Dec 2013 #127
Yep, he's already running for President and he thinks this kind of crap gives him cred with MADem Dec 2013 #132
virtually everything "my" senator (ugh) does bothers me. But in this case... Bucky Dec 2013 #134
Benefit of the doubt? I don't understand. MADem Dec 2013 #135

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. Teabaggers rejoice...... While everyone else says "What a self-absorbed toolbag!"
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:11 PM
Dec 2013

I'll tell ya, that may be his running leap before he jumps the shark.

I mean, come on--grabbing one of the few CODEL seats to go to the funeral, first of all, and then, when he gets there, making a "wet hen" scene that no one, most likely, even noticed!

I'll bet the assembled guests looked at him marching out and said to themselves "Hmmmm....he must have had some of those liver pate hors d'ouvres they were passing around....those things looked a little sketchy to me in this heat and humidity; he'll probably be a good hour on the pot passing those things!"



I'm sure they didn't appreciate the drama of the gesture one bit!

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
44. "Cummings: Ted Cruz 'got an earful' from Dems on South Africa trip"
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 07:53 PM
Dec 2013

Sorry for mobile link.

http://touch.baltimoresun.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-78496382

Cummings: Ted Cruz 'got an earful' from Dems on South Africa trip

By John Fritze, The Baltimore Sun
Updated December 10, 2013

Rep. Elijah E. Cummings is in South Africa for Nelson Mandela's memorial, but that doesn't mean he's abandoned domestic policy. In fact, Cummings said he and other Democrats in the official delegation have used the trip to debate with Sen. Ted Cruz on Obamacare.

"He got an earful from many of us -- I mean it was a very good conversation, nothing negative," the Baltimore Democrat said in an interview from Johannesburg. "I just reminded him that I'm concerned about the many people in my state and his state who have no health insurance."

MADem

(135,425 posts)
92. You tell him, Elijah!!
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 02:13 AM
Dec 2013

Wonder how Ted enjoyed being a "minority" on that aircraft--there were only a couple of Republicans on that trip.

The little shit couldn't spend the whole flight in the crapper!

I'll bet he got an earful on the way home, too...!

progressoid

(49,996 posts)
90. We did?
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 12:57 AM
Dec 2013

We aren't the mainstream media.

He's a child throwing a tantrum and the media is his indulgent parents. We are the unfortunate patrons in the restaurant.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
93. No one gave a shit in Capetown, and all this points out is what a stupid TOOL he is.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 02:15 AM
Dec 2013

Anyone who thinks displaying a "fit of pique" at a state funeral for a world leader is "cool" lacks leadership himself.

All he did was point out to America and the world that yes, indeed, he is a toolbag.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
115. It still isnt important
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 01:31 PM
Dec 2013

Odd. A great anecdote for his next democratic challenger to throw in an attack ad. But not important.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
122. His walk out had as much impact as a tree falling in the forest in
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 04:31 PM
Dec 2013

the dead of night during a thunder storm.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
52. I'd say he's going after the Cuban vote. Especially since his father didn't fight Castro like he
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 08:10 PM
Dec 2013

claimed. IIRC his father fought with Castro, but then said he had no idea what Castro was really like.

KevTucky

(90 posts)
120. I fixed the begining.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 03:45 PM
Dec 2013

The Canadian-Cuban-American U.S. Senator from Texas traveled to South Africa as part of a congressional delegation to attend Nelson Mandela’s memorial service on Tuesday.

Squinch

(50,993 posts)
2. "Did he go to make a scene?" YES. And in all future Cruz events, the answer to
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:03 PM
Dec 2013

"Did he just do this to make a scene and get attention?" the answer will be yes.

If the question is asked this way, "Does he really believe in what he is doing?" the answer will be no.

lob1

(3,820 posts)
35. The good thing about his coloring book is
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 07:05 PM
Dec 2013

you don't have to color any of the people's skin. Not one.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
4. The GOP outreach to the African American community continues....unabated.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:05 PM
Dec 2013

What better way to reach out to the African American community than to walk out on the memorial service honoring Nelson Mandela?

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
10. Mandela means a lot to the African-American community
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:13 PM
Dec 2013

The GOP is looking to reach out and walking out on Nelson Mandela's memorial service ain't the way to do it.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. To say nothing of the international African and world community!
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:13 PM
Dec 2013

Every country was represented at that celebration of life, and here's Mister Poopy Sneer, strutting out like anyone gives a shit.

Like I said upthread, I'll bet most folks thought he had the trots!

 

Lifelong Dem

(344 posts)
11. First I heard about this
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:15 PM
Dec 2013

Looks like his attention getting failed. Obama won any attention getting with the selfies.


mimi85

(1,805 posts)
63. Must admit...
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 08:41 PM
Dec 2013

I can't blame anyone for flirting with Obama. Forget D or R, he is one fine looking man.

So Rafael Cruz had a hissy fit. He's even overtaken Marco Rubio as the biggest douche with a Cuban background. How disrespectful! He makes Americans look bad with this crap. Cruz has the compassion of a dried fruit! And the IQ of same!

Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #17)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. Yeah, I watched the thing from before the "Please tone down the music" announcement on,
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:46 PM
Dec 2013

and I totally missed his fit of pique!

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
12. Just in case he didn't get enough camera exposure.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:15 PM
Dec 2013



Fuggen grandstander weenie.

He makes Ryan look like a real statesman.

Cadfael

(1,299 posts)
14. Unfortunately
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:16 PM
Dec 2013

The type of person who would be impressed by this antic is the type of person who would not be too offended by a lack of respect shown to Nelson Mandela.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
29. +1...fortunately, I'll bet most of the people in attendance just thought he was a
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:49 PM
Dec 2013

smarmy American who either needed to poop, or pee!

lastlib

(23,271 posts)
65. ROFLMSAO!! Love it!!!
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 08:43 PM
Dec 2013

. . . . . . . .

(I'll have nightmares for a week thinking about it, but I LOVE it! God, it's hysterical!)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
94. OMG that is superb!
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 02:18 AM
Dec 2013

And I recognize the fine figure of Peter Griffin, used to good effect in that representation!!!!!!

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
26. Yep.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:43 PM
Dec 2013

If Obama hadn't shaken hands with Castro, he would have found some other reason to walk out. But, quite frankly, I'm surprised anyone even noticed that he was there. Compared to all the dignitaries there, he's a fucking nobody.

spanone

(135,861 posts)
18. he's an asshole. he'll now profess that he went to Mandela's funeral then walked out...asshole
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:27 PM
Dec 2013

dangerous opportunist

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. Competing with Rand Paul for Poutrage Points, perhaps?
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:38 PM
Dec 2013

They say every Senator looks in the mirror and sees a potential POTUS looking back at them....I'd say those two assclowns look in the mirror and see an assclown looking back at them!

Dangerous opportunist, though....that's him. Stupid AND reckless!

Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
21. Mighty long way to go just to grandstand, even for a jerk like Cruz
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:37 PM
Dec 2013

He sure seems ignorant of history if he thinks he has something to teach the Castros about Mandela.
[img][/img]
..."Cuban President Fidel Castro, right, and African leader Nelson Mandela gesture during the celebration of the "Day of the Revolution" in Matanzas Saturday, July 27, 1991. Cubans celebrate 38th anniversary of the revolution."
http://www.sfgate.com/world/article/Nelson-Mandela-South-Africa-s-face-of-change-5038872.php#photo-4388961

---------------------------------

I would imagine Ted's little walkout would be offensive to Mandela's widow, Graca Machel. She was a member of the Mozambican Liberation Front. Cuba provided support in her mother country's fight for independence, and afterward supported development of health and education. As the first lady of the newly independent Mozambique, she and her first husband Samora Machel welcomed Fidel as a comrade.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
24. Maybe he figured that shit out AFTER he posted the fulsome praise of Madiba on his fb page...
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:40 PM
Dec 2013

So he pulls the walkout to pretend that this is what he meant to do all along....

He's like Jon Lovitz playing the liar! "Yeah, that's what I meant...that's the ticket...!!!!"

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
57. I'm told that Jon Lovitz...
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 08:13 PM
Dec 2013

Thinks he is lately Mr Conswerevative. Perhaps he is writing copy for jerks like Cruz.

TBF

(32,086 posts)
25. This is what he does -
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:41 PM
Dec 2013

it's the Ted Cruz show. Coming soon to a presidential election near you ..

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. In a way, 2016 will be fun...I know a few Republicans who will "face palm" over this asshole and
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:45 PM
Dec 2013

that other nutter, Rand Paul.

JI7

(89,262 posts)
30. Yup , now he has something he can use to get the Primary Vote
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:50 PM
Dec 2013

and for the GE he can claim to have just gone there.

it's all about HIM. he is a fucking media whore with a disgustingly huge ego.

JimboBillyBubbaBob

(1,389 posts)
31. Enough of this silliness...
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:51 PM
Dec 2013

...with Cuban refugees. That world is gone by the wayside. United States foreign policy has been driven by a small vocal community for over fifty years. It's over, it's done, peace already. Cruz is superpimping this issue.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
32. They don't even own the "Hispanic Voting Bloc" in Florida anymore.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 06:58 PM
Dec 2013

There are a shitload of Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Mexicans, etc. in FL now. They don't share the anti-Cuba drama. The Cubans no longer own the road. The only thing Cuban that "dominates" in FL is the SANDWICH....now that's good eatin'!

According to the 2005 census, the racial distributions are as follows; 60.1% White, 17% African-American, 2.1% Asian American, 1.4% others (American Indians), and the remaining 18% are Hispanics or Latino (of any ethnicity or national origin). Florida has one of the largest African-American populations in the country, but ranks the second highest Latino population in the East coast outside of New York state and Florida's Asian-American population has grown in high rates in the 1990s, the majority being ethnic Chinese, Filipinos and Vietnamese settled in the Gulf Coast. The state has a few federally recognized American Indian tribes, like the Seminoles in the southeastern part of the state.
Florida's Hispanic population includes large communities of Cuban Americans in Miami (mainly from refugees fleeing the Castro regime) and Tampa, Puerto Ricans in Tampa and Orlando, and Central American and Mexican in inland West-Central and South Florida, like the Lake Okeechobee area. The Hispanic community continues to grow more affluent and mobile: between the years of 2000 and 2004, Lee County in Southwest Florida, which is largely suburban in character, had the fastest Hispanic population growth rate of any county in the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Florida
 

hog

(51 posts)
37. What about Dad?
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 07:24 PM
Dec 2013

Senator Cruz's father fought FOR Castro before moving to the US. In order to get a visa to emigrate he had to get a friend in the Batista regime to sign off for him. My guess is that the son's loyalty to anything and everything depends on what's in it for him. He's a chip off the old block.

calimary

(81,440 posts)
73. Welcome to DU, hog!
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 09:30 PM
Dec 2013

Glad you're here! Both of 'em are putzes as far as I'm concerned. Self-important, self-sanctifying, self-flattering, self-flatulating putzes. The minute ted cruz opens his yap, it's IMMEDIATELY about him and his ego. Probably needs a good enema. Or maybe he just IS one.

Cha

(297,528 posts)
38. That's exactly why he went.. shoulda put that together
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 07:30 PM
Dec 2013

before hand. But, too engrossed in all the wonderful people who were attending because of Love for Madiba.

cruz is the anti-Mandela and President Obama being the one who tries to live up to Madiba's impossibly beautiful example.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
39. Every Move he makes is for Publicity for Ted Cruz
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 07:32 PM
Dec 2013

He went to the funeral so he could get his name on Cable news and on the web. He walked out of the funeral so he could get his name on Cable news and on the web. He is a gold plated jerk and to his way of thinking,every move he makes glorifies his name. Barf!

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
48. Why it God's good name was Ted Cruz part of the US Delegation
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 08:07 PM
Dec 2013

I mean outside the fact that Ted Cruz is a tool he's also someone who is low man on the totem pole when it comes to seniority in the US Senate.

Barack Obama showed respect to the fact that this was a funeral for a very well-known, beloved, distinguished man that is Nelson Mandela and not to make a spectacle of himself when there. Obama knew there would be world leaders there that perhaps viewpoints that are not aligned with those of the United States, but he did not make an ass of himself.

Ted Cruz is an embarrassment to this country and those here in the US that cheer Cruz on show that they too are assholes.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
95. The way they do these CODELS is that they have a group of seats available,
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 02:23 AM
Dec 2013

I'm guessing in this case the South African government said "You can bring along X number of people to sit in the dignitaries' section" and after the WH figured out which ex-Presidents and cabinet officials and spouses were going, they cut loose the rest of the seats to the Congress. They probably sequestered (pardon the term) a set number for Dems and Republicans, up to a certain point in time, and then threw the list open "first come/first served" until filled. Not many Republicans bothered to show up. Two, I think they said...?

aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
51. 2 things . . .
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 08:09 PM
Dec 2013

1) "For decades, Castro has wrongly imprisoned and tortured countless innocents . . ."
I think the US also has wrongly imprisoned and tortured countless innocents in Cuba at Guantanamo.

2) I believe it was Fidel not Raul that has wrongly imprisoned and tortured . . . FOR DECADES

MADem

(135,425 posts)
96. Uh, Raul was no choir boy.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 02:25 AM
Dec 2013

He and Che did plenty of killing -- they even took pictures.

But now's not the time nor the place to debate that shit. If you're really interested in it, you've got Google, go for it. Or start a new thread. This one's about Ted Cruz doing the Turkey Trot.

aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
111. Raul's no angel . . .
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 12:08 PM
Dec 2013

I was pointing out Ted's spoke person, whom I assume is speaking for Ted, says that Raul imprisoned and tortured for decades, when I believe that it was Fidel. Raul may have done it for years, but certainly not decades, while the US is at 1 decade with imprisonment and torture at Guantanamo.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
112. Raul was at Fidel's side--or Che's-- throughout.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 12:56 PM
Dec 2013

He killed people; I wouldn't be surprised if he tortured 'em too. I doubt he imprisoned them for very long, though. Fog of war, and all that--not something I would endorse but we all know it happens.



Raúl Castro was a rebel commander during the 1950s; after his brother Fidel Castro, took power, Raúl Castro was one of the most important figures in the party, serving as Minister of the Armed Forces from 1959 to 2008.....In 1953, Raúl served as a member of the 26th of July Movement group that attacked the Moncada Barracks, and he spent 22 months in prison as a result of this action.[14][15] During his exile in Mexico he participated in the preparations for the expedition of the boat Granma, landing in Cuba on 2 December 1956.
......

Raúl was one of the few survivors of the Granma landing. He was part of the tiny group of survivors who managed to reach a safe haven in the Sierra Maestra mountains (see the Cuban Revolution). As Fidel's brother and trusted right-hand man, and given his proven leadership abilities during and after the Moncada attack, he was given progressively bigger commands. On February 27, 1958, Raúl was made comandante and assigned the mission to cross the old province of Oriente leading a column of guerrillas to open, to the northeast of that territory, the "Frank País Eastern Front."
....

By October 1958, after being reinforced by Fidel, the two brothers had about 2,000 fighters and they were operating freely throughout Oriente province. In December, while Che Guevara and Camilo Cienfuegos were operating around Santa Clara, Fidel and Raúl's army laid siege to Maffo (capturing it on December 30). Their victorious army then headed to Santiago de Cuba, the capital of Oriente province.
In response to the victory by Che Guevara at the Battle of Santa Clara, the U.S.-backed President Fulgencio Batista fled Cuba in the early morning of 1 January 1959.[16] The two Castro brothers with their army arrived on the outskirts of Santiago de Cuba and said their forces would storm the city at 6 PM January 1 if it did not first surrender. The commander (Colonel Rego Rubido) surrendered Santiago de Cuba without a fight. The war was over and Fidel was able to take power in Havana when he arrived on 8 January 1959.
Raúl's abilities as a military leader during the revolution are hard to see clearly. Unlike Che Guevara or Cienfuegos, Raúl had no significant victories he could claim credit for on his own. The last operations (which were clearly successful) were conducted with his older brother Fidel present (and in command).[17]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%BAl_Castro

That said, I take your point, and Cruz is an idiot and his spokesman is, too. If Raul and Fidel killed and tortured, so did Cruz's daddy--after all, he was teamed up with the Castros in their revolutionary ranks before he cut and ran to get out of Cuba when he figured out it wasn't going to be much of a paradise for anyone with upwardly mobile ambitions. That "por la patria" shit gets old when one prefers comforts, I guess. I have to wonder, if Cruz Padre had done better in the Party Ranks in Cuba, and hadn't left the island, if Baby Cruz wouldn't be some halfassed functionary in the regime, clawing away looking for a bit more power...?

marble falls

(57,162 posts)
55. Its about the only chance he gets to actively snub Castro and get thimself in with the John .....
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 08:12 PM
Dec 2013

Birchers, Teabillies, etc. What a putz and he's only one of the two nitwit Senators in this state.

It was someone else's funeral for crying out loud, Nelson Mandela's funeral, yet. What a putz.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
59. Typical asinine teabagger behavior.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 08:14 PM
Dec 2013

To be expected from this low-life, sack of snake-oil-salesman's shit. Honestly, they just keep getting dumber and dumber.

KatyaR

(3,445 posts)
60. Another staged event.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 08:19 PM
Dec 2013

If I were the President, I'd leave Cruz's ass in South Africa, see how well he does there....

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
61. I'm sure his donations shot up...
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 08:31 PM
Dec 2013

...the teabaggers love this shit. And so we have yet another example of how fools and their money are soon parted.

Top it off with the self-important white guy storming out of an "important" (not my quotes) black guy's funeral, and it's enough to have the teabaggers reaching for the cream. YUM!

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
62. To Cruz everything is political....
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 08:36 PM
Dec 2013

when he takes a huge dump he thinks he can see political visions amid the stool.

He fails to appreciate this was not a political event. This was an event to honor a man who is generally accepted as iconic given his ability to lead his nation to reconciliation and set it on the path for a non-violent democracy.

The fact he reached out to the Castros is consistent with his belief there was good in all people and that engagement and dialogue is more productive than silence.

We must consider that we have slept with the worst of the worst from Allende to Marcos to the Shah. We are in no position to lecture the world on who you talk to.

Cruz thinks he is sent by God. We know he is the spawn of the devil. I expect his political flame will die over the next 2-4 years.

Journeyman

(15,038 posts)
64. He could have just stepped out, said he was going to the restroom, then explained himself. . .
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 08:43 PM
Dec 2013

when back in the States. No disruption to the service, no melodramatic theatrics. I understand his distaste for Castro and his ill-feelings towards Cuban state, but there are proper times and places for that discussion.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
133. Well, it doesn't really matter, from what I understand--the whole idea of having "Christian" ideals
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 08:28 AM
Dec 2013

is to behave like Christ --the whole mercy and forgiveness, kindness, helping the least of the brethren, feed the hungry, minister to the sick, suffer the little children to come unto me, all that stuff.

He was baptized a Methodist, Mandela was...here's a good article on the topic of his spirituality: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/06/nelson-mandela-religion-spirituality-_n_4399847.html

malaise

(269,157 posts)
68. Way more than Mandela admiring the Cuban government's POV
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 08:52 PM
Dec 2013

Cuba played a pivotal role in the anti-apartheid struggle and the liberation struggle in Southern Africa.
Cruz is a first rate asshole with no class. Why he thought the South Africans would give a shit and give him air time only he knows.

malthaussen

(17,216 posts)
70. Why did they invite him? Or did he just go on his own?
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 08:53 PM
Dec 2013

The only funeral I'd invite Ted Cruz to... well, the ToS won't let me finish that one.

-- Mal

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
71. I'm sure he was trying to start another war we can't afford
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 08:55 PM
Dec 2013

But alas nobody listens to turds like him...

either way he's Canadian and he can't get out of that

calimary

(81,440 posts)
74. Yeah, that works.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 09:35 PM
Dec 2013

Fits him to a tea(bag). Repulsive, pompous LITTLE - uh - well, I was gonna say "man," but he seems to be struggling with growing up. Spoiled smug snot-nose works, too.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
75. Someone should ask him if he thinks we should release our political prisoners.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 09:43 PM
Dec 2013

Maybe close Gitmo.

This is a class war and he is the enemy.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
76. He is just another attention whore...
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 09:54 PM
Dec 2013

He learned at the feet of snake oil salesmen in the church....So this was just another opportunity for a "show"....

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
77. And NOONE noticed, so he had to call the media after the fact to tell them! ROFLMFAO
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 09:56 PM
Dec 2013

How fu**ing childish is that!

Chief D

(55 posts)
81. Just Gotta Laugh
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 10:07 PM
Dec 2013

Attended as part of a CONDEL which means that his movement was tracked very closely by SS and other security. Also, with so many world leaders in the crowd, security protocol probably required that no one enter or exit the stadium once the event started. So, when it says, "he walked out" it really means that he got out of his seat but did not leave the stadium. Further, because of the venue and seating, (by seniority for dignitaries) he probably only got (maybe) a hundred yards from his seat before Castro finished speaking. So, there Teddy was probably having to crawl over other dignitaries (Prime Ministers, Congressmen, Senators, Bishops, etc.) to get out of the middle of a row, then standing around pretending he was making a phone call, or fishing through his pockets or looking like a lost tourist and he's calling that walking out on a speech. Excellent!!!!!!!

Warpy

(111,329 posts)
82. Somebody needs to lift his passport
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 10:18 PM
Dec 2013

It's bad enough having him here in the US but letting him out to shame this country in public overseas is intolerable.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
83. Sooo... when is Pvt Manning getting released?
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 10:21 PM
Dec 2013

And how about Siegelman? And those people in Guantanamo?

Moses2SandyKoufax

(1,290 posts)
87. It's Texas.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 10:38 PM
Dec 2013

I swear that a sizable portion of the electorate in Texas (and other red states) have made politics a game of trying to out conservative each other, and even themselves.

Cha

(297,528 posts)
88. Rude Pundit gave a republicon the last word on this.. which applies directly to
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:37 PM
Dec 2013

ted scruz.

"Let's give the last word here to another conservative, John Podhoretz, who wrote, sanely, "There's plenty to attack Obama for. Attacking him for shaking someone's hand at a funeral begins to descend into self-parody." The only thing to argue about there is the word "begins."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4161992

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
100. They make such a big deal over Obama's travels ...
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 08:55 AM
Dec 2013

maybe they should bill Cruz for the travel expenses ...

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
102. He is just so disgusting
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 09:04 AM
Dec 2013

I have to flip the channel any time he appears on screen. He literally makes my skin crawl... an evil man with unlimited ambition.

Lefty615

(34 posts)
103. Clowns gotta clown
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 09:05 AM
Dec 2013

Ted Cruz is rapidly turning into a male Cuban-Canadian version of Sarah Palin - never anything productive to say, playing fast and loose with factual information, and doing anything, no matter how hypocritical or inappropriate, to get his face on the news. I have no idea why Cruz was even invited (was he even invited?), but his disrespectful conduct, which clearly was nothing more than a play for airtime, should make the world think twice about letting him attend anything important.

You know what's really funny? The Right Wing is constantly accusing President Obama of "following his father's communist philosophy" even though he never even met his father (past infancy) until he was eleven years old, and then only once. Meanwhile, Ted Cruz' father SUPPORTED Castro, yet I've yet to hear anyone accuse Cruz of being a communist. Double standard, anyone?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
104. They offered the seats to Congress, and some were made
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 09:25 AM
Dec 2013

available to the GOP delegation. I think Cruz and one other took the offer. He's plainly clueless--praising Mandela on fb but apparently not realizing that the guy had a fairly close relationship with Fidel Castro.

underpants

(182,868 posts)
109. He was mad that they didn't let him sell his coloring book
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 10:01 AM
Dec 2013

I mean that quite a crowd. He could have made some serious money.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
110. He no doubt read his own Facebook page
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 11:10 AM
Dec 2013

And was influenced by his followers. Stack of Neonazi, jackbooted, white supremacy hoodlums. He's proven himself to be an ignoramus.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
116. I think that ignoramus is far too kind.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 02:03 PM
Dec 2013

I think he deserves a new "compound" word to describe himself--I think "ignoranus" is perfect for him, because he is a stupid asshole!

Historic NY

(37,452 posts)
117. If you can't separate yourself from politics to be with other world leaders...
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 02:08 PM
Dec 2013

then your not a leader your a hack. Its pretty clear to the people in attendance that you dissed them and the service by walking out.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
119. So here we are, doing billions of dollars worth of business with China,
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 03:37 PM
Dec 2013

another communist country that's done all the same things to their people that Cuba has, but we still can't deal with Cuba.
Because?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
128. It's a fair question, I've pondered it elsewhere in this conversation.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 07:59 AM
Dec 2013

I really don't know why--all I know is that a couple of candidates who have expressed a desire towards normalizing have, upon ascending to the Presidency and presumably getting a brief, backed off that goal.

It's odd. There's more "there" there than we know, I think. What that "there" is, who knows? I do think that when Fidel dies, the objections to normalization will die with him.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
121. This novice, trying to take on a leadership position very shortly after being elected
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 04:26 PM
Dec 2013

to a national position, showed his true diplomatic credentials. Having someone offensive to our political opposites is truly what, at least I, myself, would want representing me as a national leader. (sarcasm, of course) I despised Nixon, but later admired his diplomacy. Ted Cruz is so far out of Nixon's league alone , I can't bear to make further comparisons to Eisenhower, let alone FDR and JFK. Disrespecting our adversaries is no way to manage a nation.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
129. Precisely. One can hold one's views and not be an ass about it.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 08:03 AM
Dec 2013

Maybe he was afraid Raul would come up to him and say "Tell your dad I said 'Hi!'" or something...?

Teddy's dad was WITH Fidel before he was agin' him....!

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
136. So true about his dad. I'm just old enough to remember the shock in this country when
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 09:48 AM
Dec 2013

Fidel took power, then announced he was a dreaded Commie. I still wonder how this could have come as a surprise to his Cuban followers, however. In retrospect, I think this is probably why the U.S. has remained so inflexible toward Cuba. Aside from the Missile Crisis, they're pretty harmless compared to some other Communist nations we've since cozied up to.

Javaman

(62,532 posts)
123. cruz uncontrol was just pissed that the whole service
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 05:19 PM
Dec 2013

didn't center around him being there and he just couldn't understand why.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
131. I heard that the CODEL, which was mostly Dems, gave him some shit.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 08:19 AM
Dec 2013

The CBC was well represented, I wouldn't be surprised if they let him know that they thought he was an ass.


Rep. Marcia Fudge, a Democrat from Warrensville Heights attended Nelson Mandela's memorial service today in South Africa as chair of the Congressional Black Caucus. (Sabrina Eaton, The Plain Dealer)




Fudge said she the other U.S. congress members who attended the ceremony -- mostly members of Congressional Black Caucus, which she chairs -- were seated in a loge out of the rain. South Africa's government gave her group good seats because of its longtime relationship with Mandela, said Fudge.

"For those who may not know, it was the CBC that put in place the legislation that put sanctions against South Africa to end apartheid, and that took Mandela off the terrorist list," Fudge said. "There was a close relationship between Mandela and the CBC."

Fudge said she was exhausted after boarding an Air Force plane on Monday with more than a dozen other members of Congress for the 19-hour flight. She expects to arrive back in Washington tomorrow night. She said the only U.S. Senator on the trip, Texas Republican Ted Cruz, sat with the CBC throughout the journey and "has been a part of the team."

"He is an interesting fellow
," Fudge said of Cruz, a Tea Party favorite.
http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2013/12/rep_marcia_fudge_says_nelson_m.html


I love me some Marcia--if she's anything like me, with the right tone, "interesting fellow" can translate to mean "fucking asshole!"

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
127. Ted Cruz did this for publicity
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 07:12 PM
Dec 2013

He couldn't care less about Nelson Mandela. Asshole doesn't even come close to adequately describing Cruz.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
132. Yep, he's already running for President and he thinks this kind of crap gives him cred with
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 08:23 AM
Dec 2013

his conservative base as well as the ever-shrinking anti-Castro crowd in Florida.

Of course, if they ever come up with good photos of his "deddy" fighting in Castro's revolutionary units, all that pouting gets nixed. Hell, even if a few old freedom fighters can talk about the guy's verve and vigor towards the revolutionary cause, that would put a huge damper on his ambitions.

Has anyone come up with any footage of this event, or is it just some clown looking like he needs to go have a wee?

Bucky

(54,041 posts)
134. virtually everything "my" senator (ugh) does bothers me. But in this case...
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 08:31 AM
Dec 2013

I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt. I mean, yes, there's certainly some political theatre in this walk out. And yes, the Castro hatred on the American right has been counterproductive. That damned embargo is the main reason why Cuba has remained a communist dictatorship a whole generation past the collapse of Sovietism. But it's not like Cruz was walking out to protest Mandela. The Castro regime has the worst human rights record of any current government in the Western Hemisphere. The longer the communists hold on to Cuba, the worse things will get. What the Cubans do to keep their people in line makes the NSA spying and Homeland Security madness in this country look like a speed trap. Mandela's funeral is only the second worse place to protest Cuba's human rights record. The worst place to protest would be anywhere in Cuba, cause that would get your ass thrown in prison.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
135. Benefit of the doubt? I don't understand.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 09:14 AM
Dec 2013

The purpose of going to the funeral--ostensibly, if his fb page is to be believed-- was to pay respect to Madiba.

Should the South African government have told Raul -- representing a government that was an early anti-apartheid advocate and ally to Nelson Mandela in that cause -- to stay home to suit Cruz?

Cruz knew who would be there, and who would speak.

He attended to make a little fuss for his base. So basically, Cruz wiped his ass on the hospitality of the South Africans, to make a point about another attendee, for whom he did not care.

What he did was wrong. There's a time and place for anything and everything, and that was wrong time, wrong place, to express his dissatisfaction with Cuba or Raul.

Plain old bone-headed ignorance.

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