Has the mighy political pendulum passed its conservative zenith?

[hootinholler]

Last edited Fri Dec 13, 2013, 09:58 PM - Edit history (1)

Are we witnessing the beginning of it swinging back to the progressive side?

What's your gut telling you?

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	Hell Yeah! It's none too soon.
	1 (14%)
	Probably.
	4 (57%)
	Possibly.
	0 (0%)
	Doubt it.
	2 (29%)
	No Fucking Way. We're Doomed!
	0 (0%)
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[Agschmid]

1. Fingers crossed.

[adirondacker]

2. Only if they pull the plug on the right hand magnet. Then we can plan on a "centrist" rest.

This country's elite will never allow a true left social democracy.

[Brigid]

3. I will go with "possibly."

After more than three decades of the right taking a wrecking ball to the progress we made before that, I am skeptical. And keep in mind this was never a particularly progressive country to start with.

[hootinholler]

5. Populist movements have historically done great things in this country

Freed slaves, Social Security, Civil rights, suffrage for women and minorities, National Parks, Moon Shot.

Then again other examples brought us prohibition, native genocide, interment of Japanese Americans.

[Brigid]

8. I was thinking mostly of workers' rights.

That's been on my mind a lot lately. It seems that workers in this country have no rights they don't fight like junkyard dogs for, and it 's always been that way.

[hootinholler]

9. That's a great example! n/t

[Brigid]

11. See this double feature for further details:

"Matewan" and the absolutely jaw-dropping "Harlan County USA."

[HereSince1628]

14. and also the blockade and bombardment of Ft Sumter and it's aftermath,

The Whiskey Rebellion, Shay's rebellion, The Mormon Wars, Bloody Kansas, Hollywood Blacklists, and IRAN-CONTRA.

[0rganism]

4. 2014 is a tossup, i think by 2016 for sure

which is important, because we desperately need to win in 2020 and 2030 to undo the incredible damage done by the GOP's rampant state-level gerrymanders.

[longship]

6. I am reticent to declare victory prematurely.

It may be true that they are exercising, as the immortal Snagglepuss put it, self-inflicted Bar-B-Q (they're cooking their own goose).

But to presume that and ignore them is a fool's errand. They have immense power, often preached from pulpits across the country, and interminably from media sources, where balance is often a matter of having an argument, even if it isn't a cogent let alone an intelligent one.

Yes! They are screwing themselves. But do not count them out. What we have to do is to continue doing what we do. Shine the light on what they say, often only behind closed doors. We've had recent help in that matter. We cannot let up on that.

Plus, we have the help from their more fervent advocates. Like Focus on the Family, 700 Club, American Family Association, and all their followers on.

It's a fertile field for Democrats to harvest.

on edit: almost forgot. Can't do a Snagglepuss allusion without...

Exit stage left.

[fadedrose]

7. Are the Koch brothers now progressives?

When they run out of money, ask me then.....

[hootinholler]

12. Was Morgan a Progressive?

It seems his barriers were overcome back in the day.

[fadedrose]

15. The barriers got picked up again...

but this time, the 3rd way will be more of a problem. We need to know their funding, and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it were the Koch's....

[politichew]

10. Computer says yes.

Hi Steph heads!

[rrneck]

13. No. They've still got all the money. nt

[LongTomH]

16. I wish there was an option for "I truly hope so!"

I chose 'Possibly;' but, there are obstacles in the way. We're fighting against entrenched power and money, and opponents who never, repeat never fight fair!

[TheKentuckian]

17. The pendulum is so overstated as a dynamic it mostly acts an excuse for inaction than anything else.

[hootinholler]

18. That's an interesting notion

Can you cite some examples? I know one can not prove a negative, but anything supporting your hypothesis would be helpful to understand it more fully.

[TheKentuckian]

19. I think we are caught in such a short observation window that what is considered axiomatic is

based on nothing. Throughout history the pendulum has often remained effectively stuck for hundreds and thousands of years, for many there has been no swing just generations of crap.

[Coyotl]

20. Back in 2011.