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TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 10:09 AM Dec 2013

Bye, Bye, Huffington Post (Facebook Account Required)

Last edited Sat Dec 14, 2013, 10:54 AM - Edit history (1)

Huffington Post now requires commenters to verify their identity with a Facebook account.

I don't buy into the Facebook paradigm.

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10 years ago, imagine if we had to verify ourselves with a Rupert Murdoch MySpace account.

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Updates:

They not only verify your account using Facebook, but also display your Facebook account name.

If you are using FB to verify the account for internal purposes, why display the FB account name for others to see?

Also, Facebook is a primary NSA contributor. Nice.

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Bye, Bye, Huffington Post (Facebook Account Required) (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Dec 2013 OP
Facebook is our new Internet gatekeeper. jsr Dec 2013 #1
It seems that way to some openfield Dec 2013 #43
HuffPo SamKnause Dec 2013 #2
Easy peasy... Click the arrow next to your profile name... MANative Dec 2013 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author SHRED Dec 2013 #15
Reply SamKnause Dec 2013 #18
Direct link: Yodaquoter Dec 2013 #20
Reply SamKnause Dec 2013 #21
go into Huff Post...go to the bottom of the page and hit Contact Us... chillfactor Dec 2013 #29
Reply SamKnause Dec 2013 #30
Why would anyone want, especially, to comment in that cesspool? MADem Dec 2013 #3
Marvelous post lake loon Dec 2013 #5
That's pretty much my impression of HP as well Cirque du So-What Dec 2013 #6
+1,000 -- I get the impression that the site isn't conducive to conversations at all. MADem Dec 2013 #7
+1000. plus the fact that it reads like a gossip tabloid. nt adirondacker Dec 2013 #8
I understand why they do it NuclearDem Dec 2013 #9
Perhaps they save in costs of administration, like they don't pay many contributors for their work! TheBlackAdder Dec 2013 #11
Well, yeah, I never said HuffPo wasn't terrible. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #14
This is the internet, not real life. I notice btw, you have not attached your real name to your sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #34
My parents were jokesters. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #38
Fuck Facebook and Twitter. . . DinahMoeHum Dec 2013 #10
+1!!!!! Initech Dec 2013 #17
so, create a bogus FB acct. I have 3. and 2 G+ KG Dec 2013 #12
That just proves their actions are not to prevent posts, but to expand their FB exposure. TheBlackAdder Dec 2013 #16
It can be convenient for people who want to casually comment tritsofme Dec 2013 #13
Ain't gonna happen....... Yodaquoter Dec 2013 #19
Yep, that's a non-starter for me. People there will just have to live deprived of my insights. HA! WinkyDink Dec 2013 #22
Profile can be changed back silverwolf942 Dec 2013 #23
I don't trust them with that information. Incitatus Dec 2013 #26
Earlier today I commented on my experience with a FB based forum seabeckind Dec 2013 #24
Addendum... seabeckind Dec 2013 #25
people can live without facebook Skittles Dec 2013 #27
The Huffington Post site always freezes up my computer. MinM Dec 2013 #28
HuffPo SamKnause Dec 2013 #31
What's a Facebook? defacto7 Dec 2013 #32
It's a secretly public spying machine in private hands. Amonester Dec 2013 #33
facebook is a convenient way to determine FatBuddy Dec 2013 #40
i use facebook for all my latest political information madrchsod Dec 2013 #35
I love twitter PasadenaTrudy Dec 2013 #39
one thing i have`t tried but madrchsod Dec 2013 #41
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #36
That is why I,... adavid Dec 2013 #37
no more huff post for me choschu Dec 2013 #42
There's a group PasadenaTrudy Dec 2013 #44
No more Huffington Post for me either ifyousayso Dec 2013 #45

openfield

(30 posts)
43. It seems that way to some
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 11:17 AM
Dec 2013

Of course it is not true. Keep our internet free, private, and democratic!

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
2. HuffPo
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 10:12 AM
Dec 2013

Do you know how I can close, or delete my HuffPo account ?

I tried to find the info on the HuffPo site, but I couldn't find anything about closing my account.

Thank you in advance.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
4. Easy peasy... Click the arrow next to your profile name...
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 10:40 AM
Dec 2013

at the top right of the main page. It will give you a drop-down box. Click "settings". Scroll to the bottom of the page that loads. There is a red box at the bottom that says "remove account". Click that and confirm. You're outta there! (Me too - just now!)

Response to MANative (Reply #4)

chillfactor

(7,584 posts)
29. go into Huff Post...go to the bottom of the page and hit Contact Us...
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 01:24 AM
Dec 2013

scroll all the way down to the bottom of that page..on the left you will see a link to unscribe from HP...click on that link

hope this helps!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. Why would anyone want, especially, to comment in that cesspool?
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 10:21 AM
Dec 2013

It seems like a web of goaders, baiters, trolls, and assholes to me. Every time I dive into the comments, it goes something like:

1. Salient remark.
2. Snarky retort.
3. Nasty comment with genitalia reference.
4. Spam.
5. Comment from some idiot who either doesn't have the bubble or who is trolling on a higher plane.
6. Un-intellectual --but at least on topic--observation about the story.
7. Vicious personal attack denigrating the personal qualities of poster number 1.
8. Vigorous defense of poster number 1 by someone jumping into the fray.
9. Vigorous defense of the poster 7 hater by a new entrant to the melee, which includes a scatalogical element.
... Lather, rinse, repeat.

And so it goes. You spend a minute reading that crap, and your take away is "Geez, that's a minute I'm not getting back!"

 

lake loon

(99 posts)
5. Marvelous post
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 11:18 AM
Dec 2013

That's precisely the hoohah that goes on there. Of course, so many more salient remarks are extinguished by their brain-dead mods.

Cirque du So-What

(25,980 posts)
6. That's pretty much my impression of HP as well
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 11:28 AM
Dec 2013

and I know for certain that I haven't even bothered to read commentary over there for at least a couple of years. I can't imagine that conditions would have improved spontaneously in the meantime, and now there's the mandatory FB account thing. I believe HP will eventually serve as a cautionary tale in the chapter of a book titled How to Avoid Running a Perfectly Good Website Into the Ground.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. +1,000 -- I get the impression that the site isn't conducive to conversations at all.
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 11:41 AM
Dec 2013

It's more of a "hit-and-run" type place, where someone can opine that this thing or that "sux, man," or a place where someone can get into a shitty little pissing contest (preferable to kicking the dog, I suppose) without having to have any kind of "relationship" with the person they are bashing!

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
9. I understand why they do it
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 11:47 AM
Dec 2013

A way to discourage trolls and force someone to own their comments by attaching their names and faces to it.

But still, won't see me posting on HuffPo.

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
11. Perhaps they save in costs of administration, like they don't pay many contributors for their work!
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 12:11 PM
Dec 2013

Just a thought.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
34. This is the internet, not real life. I notice btw, you have not attached your real name to your
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 03:14 AM
Dec 2013

comments. Any reason why, considering you understand the need to attach ids to comments, you have not done so here? Unless of course your real name is 'NuclearDem'!

I used to use my real name back when I was really naive and thought everyone was pretty decent. Then after receiving death threats from Right Wingers and private messages such as 'I know where you live', I decided that was a mistake.

Good luck to them. I have a feeling their membership will drop considerably as people wonder if they are branch of the NSA or something.

Best way to handle this, create a fake account on FB. I never trusted FB so never joined, they wanted too much info which struck me as odd for an internet site.

This is an attempt to shut people up, nothing more. I hope they lose most of their membership over it.

Seems like an experiment to me, make it fail, cancel membership, and they will quickly drop the whole stupid idea.

DinahMoeHum

(21,809 posts)
10. Fuck Facebook and Twitter. . .
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 11:53 AM
Dec 2013

and any website that requires one to register with either of those two.

Bye bye, HuffPo

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
16. That just proves their actions are not to prevent posts, but to expand their FB exposure.
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 10:19 PM
Dec 2013

It's all about money.

They've wanted Level 2 Networkers to have FB. Level 1 people were not part of it.

I guess not that many people wanted to be an L2 Networker so they're forcing L1s to attach a FB account.

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They are just using the ruse of 'verify' as a means to justify this move, when as you state... the FB account could be a shell.

tritsofme

(17,399 posts)
13. It can be convenient for people who want to casually comment
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 12:28 PM
Dec 2013

without going through a sign-up process.

Personally, I am not interested in having my name out there to the public, so I have a dummy account for those types of sign-ons.

Yodaquoter

(11 posts)
19. Ain't gonna happen.......
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 09:02 AM
Dec 2013

"How do you get your Facebook account verified? You have to enter a confirmation code sent to you by Facebook via text message. So to comment on Huffington Post, you need to give Facebook your phone number, and you need to give HuffPost access to your Facebook account, which, Facebook says, must list your real name. Then, you can choose to post HuffPost comments under your full name or just your first name and last initial."
(I remember the early days of the Huffington Post when it really was a haven for progressive commentary. It is sad what it has become; a glorified National Enquirer with the worst moderation system on the web; comments held up for days; comments deleted that are not in violation of their guidelines, and on and on. The notion that this move was intended to promote "civility" on the site is laughable. The site is designed to promote knee-jerk reactions and controversy. Their objective is get their hands on your data. At any rate, I closed my account. I don't need the frustration and I'm sure as hell don't need my real name exposed.)

silverwolf942

(2 posts)
23. Profile can be changed back
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:30 PM
Dec 2013

Initially, after linking to the Facebook account, that is what is displayed when one comments. However, if you venture into your account settings, you can change it to still show your handle and Twitter avatar.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
26. I don't trust them with that information.
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 01:01 AM
Dec 2013

It's too risky and not worth it. The site has gone to hell, anyway.

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
24. Earlier today I commented on my experience with a FB based forum
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 12:46 AM
Dec 2013

and posted this on my FB page...

"Later today I will be terminating (as much as possible) my FB acct. If my political views and comments have caused any problems for anyone, I am very sorry. I didn't realize how the ignorati exploit the FB system. I noticed that my problems with the star started right after I pointed out that the Indiana Policy Review (started by Pence) has been sending LTEs pushing his position. I guess voicing liberal ideas is a big no-no, especially when they can be justified.

Jimmy asked about the NSA and privacy. I trust the NSA with my personal info much more than FB. The Privacy Act is directed at people who divulge your stuff. FB, OTOH, encourages you to show personal stuff and makes it visible to the world if you aren't very careful. It errs to the divulge side.

I'd gotten some nasty messages from those who disagree with my positions, not based on those positions, but personal. I'm glad now that I didn't show any personal info, like my name and DOB. BTW, that reluctance is what was used against me to remove me from the star. In order to reactivate I have to go to FB with a picture of my ID. As if. Especially since there's no way that guarantees a react on the star.

What makes all this so much worse is that so many public forums have started using FB for their postings. It makes it easier because they don't need staff for admin but it then allows a spotlight to be shined on anyone who might disagree with the party line. Just like long ago during the labor movements where the guy who could be identified was targetted. I noticed that so many forums have taken up that right wing argument...the one that says you should stand behind your position.

We have laws in this country to protect us from our gov't. We have no such laws to protect us from "private" gov'ts.

Take care...there're some real nasty, ignorant people out there"


I don't know the motive so many sites have for using FB but whatever the reason the implementation sucks...and not just for the intrusions. The interface itself is extremely clunky, dropping comments, etc. It's an absolute mess and indicative of pure laziness on the part of admins. And that's ignoring their inability to control the interface.

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
25. Addendum...
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 12:52 AM
Dec 2013

I also noticed a coordinated effort on the part of the right wing oppositions, also. It was apparent that they were messaging outside the forum. Even indications they were searching for more personal info.

In the end, a number of posters made independent objections to my posts.

My only worry is that there might be some repercussions to family friends.

MinM

(2,650 posts)
28. The Huffington Post site always freezes up my computer.
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 01:08 AM
Dec 2013

Haven't visited that site for a few years now.

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
31. HuffPo
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 01:47 AM
Dec 2013

I always had trouble with that site.

When you are just starting out with your first internet experience and being completely computer illiterate it really sucks.

I never knew if it was something I was doing, if the internet was acting up, or if the site was acting up.

It was frustrating as hell.

I joined in 2008.

The site has drastically changed !

As of late, I rarely posted.

I learned so very much the first and second year.

After that, it went downhill quickly.

I asked some of my favorite posters for another site and they recommended Democratic Underground.

I joined at the beginning of the year.

I deleted my HuffPo account when they implemented the FaceBook policy.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
33. It's a secretly public spying machine in private hands.
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 03:12 AM
Dec 2013

It stacks up profits in offshore tax havens.

 

FatBuddy

(376 posts)
40. facebook is a convenient way to determine
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 12:20 PM
Dec 2013

if someone is worth talking to.

if they use facebook, nope.

if they don't use facebook, they're probably an interesting person.

all of the wealthy, interesting, intelligent people i know who lead purposeful lives don't use facebook.

it's a good cultural screening device in that respect.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
35. i use facebook for all my latest political information
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:00 AM
Dec 2013

in the last 24 hours i have have and close to 30 different posts from national,state,local politicians,political parties,every news source that is posted here at du,hell even the rude pundit has a facebook page. the organization of the opposition to walker in wisconsin was through social media and the main tool was facebook.

like it or not facebook and other social media is a very important tool for information. information that the main stream media refuses to cover untill the story can no longer be suppressed.

social media has it faults but come to think of it...we are on it right now

Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

choschu

(1 post)
42. no more huff post for me
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 11:54 PM
Dec 2013

Trying to link the HP acct with FB flopped. The number I was instructed to text to get a code back failed. I was already logged in to both HP and FB—that should have been enough. Is HP trying to drive away commentators? They've already been doing it lately with increasingly arbitrary and erratic moderation.

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
44. There's a group
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 11:39 AM
Dec 2013

a huge group, of ex-Huffpost users over at Epoch Times. That site has done a couple articles on the debacle. Go check it out

ifyousayso

(19 posts)
45. No more Huffington Post for me either
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 10:20 PM
Dec 2013

I agree. I deleted my Huffington Post account the same day they started the Facebook requirement. I refuse to be pushed into a relationship with Facebook. I still value my privacy.

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