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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLibertarianism is a cult of money and property.
I don't "believe" in either.
Money and property rights are not my god.
A safe secure place to live, a place to keep one's "stuff" protected from unreasonable search and seizure, free from the threat of forced relocation except in the most dire natural situations (volcanos, rising oceans, etc...), that's a human right, not a property right.
Good food to eat, appropriate medical care, the education to make oneself a literate and informed person... those are human rights too.
Beyond that the means of accomplishing these goals are many.
Looking around the modern world it's the mixed economies that seem to work best, places where about half the economic activity is socialist and the rest of the economy is a well-regulated free markets.
The economy we have now in the U.S.A. is pretty damned ugly. Large corporations have too much power within our government.
I think reason.com type libertarians recognize the fascist nature of the present U.S. economy (especially when it interferes with their sex lives, pot smoking habits, automobile fetishes, etc...) but they tend to be very easily duped by the fascists and plutocrats and are often blind to their own racism, misogyny, and disdain for the poor. Many of them cheerfully supported Ronald Reagan not realizing he was the shallow puppet of ugly corporate authoritarians who were not "libertarian" in any sense, thus paving the way for the current plutocracy.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)It's summed up in the idea that Altruism is an evil; that looking out for each other is wrong.
I am a capitalist in general, but I agree that Mixed economies work best - we have societal needs and desires. Some of those are best served by an open but regulated market and some of those are best served by the state pooling our resources and directing them to solve the problem.
Bryant
lame54
(35,293 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)As I have argued, here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=3655
I don't know anyone who really wants to live in a libertarian society (as if such a thing has ever existed).
-Laelth
MurrayDelph
(5,299 posts)An artificially high (and false) opinion of their own self-worth, matched with
An equally-artificially high (and false) opinion of everyone else's.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)Johonny
(20,851 posts)since those that seem attached to it rarely have much of either, but you know if they work hard and can get the big government off their back some day... they will have even less.