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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOne Fumb Duck: is Phil Robertson's Dynasty Done?
I never paid any attention to the Duck Dynasty stuff, but he's pretty gross, even from afar...to each their own. But if those musings of his are "religious ideas", I just dunno. Rambling on about buttholes and what-not. It's all about as appealing as that hamburger carpet he's got moldering on his chin.
Says the duck-charmer Phil: It seems like, to me, a vaginaas a manwould be more desirable than a mans anus. Thats just me. Im just thinking: Theres more there! Shes got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what Im saying?"
He (Phil) says, "that's just me" even after going on to imply that his God is also a pretty strict penis-in-vagina advocate.
And so Kurovski asks, don't hetero folks engage in backdoor visits? Know what I'm saying?
And are his views on race really even in the category of religious belief? Like I say, I think he's forever done as a benignly viewed media character.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-duck-dynasty-phil-robertson-gays-sin-black-people-civil-rights-20131218,0,4998406.story#ixzz2nrSw1wML
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)I have made it five minutes before i get bored. I do not understand the appeal of this show
Initech
(100,081 posts)And I don't get who would either.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)Maybe now he can advertise for pads with wings. He seems to be some kind of specialist.
Maeve
(42,282 posts)The beards are for show, the behavior is scripted and pretend-redneck is more lovable than real-redneck.
http://www.today.com/entertainment/beards-duck-dynasty-stars-are-unrecognizable-8C11411204
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)thelordofhell
(4,569 posts)Redneck for money
chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)I barely heard of this show and I walk into Kohl's (a department store, if you are unfamiliar) one day and there is a whole display of products from this show. I didn't even know they had a following, much less viewers.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)After a few decades a gay person gets a sense of their reality.
WonderGrunion
(2,995 posts)I'm pitching Hillbilly Tax Accountants to A&E next week.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)depending on how much crap they and the advertisers get from this.
But Hillbilly Lawyer or HCIS sounds pretty ripe.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)jmowreader
(50,560 posts)I'd think if you were violating the federal laws about moonshining, you also would violate the federal laws about tax paying.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)hatrack
(59,587 posts)I was also thinking that "Hill Country Group Therapy Counselor", "Backwoods German Literature Professor" or "Ozark Holler Interior Decorator" might be hit material as well.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)From what I can make out, the general audience for his show agrees in some part with those sentiments?
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)The USA grows less able to stomach this kind of screwy talk from Robertson with each passing day. With each passing hour, I'd even say.
Racism just isn't the popular character trait/ entertainment source it once was.
MFM008
(19,816 posts)he never saw 'Deliverance'....what really goes on in those swampy back waters... Mr Duck?
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)Oh of course he knows, but people are supposed to feel the proper guilt and self-loathing about it just because some Iron Age clown wanted to up his tribe's birth rate.
Ducky gets an extra "god-given" boost to his own ego because he likes the lovely lady parts.
Or so he says.
nolabear
(41,987 posts)Okay maybe not poof, but quack at least. Their hairy mugs are on everything from paper cups to bath towels. They'll cash in, shave and come back as the upscale, media savvy jocks they actually are.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)They probably done reached market saturation.
Sell off the warehoused overstock to the last of the retro'tuders that are gonna be aroused and ready with the debit card.
I think one of the beardies was already a millionaire from whittling already. All?
Anydoodles, The good old internet will have what's left of future generations reading the kind of crap we had to listen to for like...forever . The good name of Robertson, (in the great tradition of Robertson's) will be for-shamed by all that crazy.
nolabear
(41,987 posts)Grammy23
(5,810 posts)You can't walk through any store that markets "stuff" without coming across their faces on everything from lunch boxes to tee shirts. Fleece blankets sporting the Dynasty? They got 'em. Greeting cards. Posters. Cookbooks. Book Bags. Plastic cups. Extra large tea glasses with Si's face emblazoned on them. I haven't looked but I am going to hazard a guess that you can buy every episode of their show on DVD.
Whoever came up with their marketing scheme was pretty smart to cash in since all things like this have their 15 minutes of fame and then it's over. Phil may have hastened the demise but then again, given the size of their following, it may even spur them on for a while longer. Someone needed to clue him in long before that interview that he probably should dummy up when he is asked questions that might be controversial. But it's out there now and I am pretty sure no one is a bit surprised by his answer. One thing that is no secret is that Phil has a pretty checkered past with admissions of a pretty "out there life style". So maybe ol' Phil knows of what he speaks when he starts discussing the various possibilities when it comes to sex.
nolabear
(41,987 posts)First there were hints of an interest in politics through an endorsement, followed by the fans' collective "He should run for office!" Suddenly it was True Confession time, from cheating and absolution to a "formerly" suicidal son. Nothing like a reformed sinner to rope the flock in for the shearing. Now that they've planted those ideas, a little homophobia that can plant an idea that can then be brushed aside as eccentricity is just lagniappe.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)nolabear
(41,987 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)Elsewhere in broadcast homophobe news...A DUer was pondering whether the beards are fake.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)Beards indeed, my friend. They have quite the history in the heterosexual world.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)that's pretty much the prevailing attitude where they live.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)Phil and his family claim to be Christian, but Phil's lies about an entire community fly in the face of what true Christians believe. He clearly knows nothing about gay people or the majority of Louisianans and Americans who support legal recognition for loving and committed gay and lesbian couples.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-glaad-phil-robertson-duck-dynasty-vile-remarks-20131218,0,5794392.story#ixzz2nsjTPCwt
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)but perhaps someone needs to throw him into the lily pond!
On a serious note, it is disturbing that someone so bigoted is given such a large soapbox to spew his nastiness.
Good to see you mon cher.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)But the wet beard smell would ruin luncheon.
Merry Xmas. I probably won't be able to call until after the holidays.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)backwoods dumbass caveman.
Lex
(34,108 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)More like "Attack, feint and lunge."
At any rate, there are a lot of redneck-looking gays and lesbians in the world.
TlalocW
(15,384 posts)Put it on my Facebook which is already crawling with, "I Stand with Phil," posts.
TlalocW
spanone
(135,844 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)"'Duck Dynasty's' Phil Robertson on Indefinite Hiatus Following Anti-Gay Remarks"
Weirdly racist comments, too. old-timey "Happy negro" stuff.
spanone
(135,844 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)the gay...it's everywhere.
Someone might...MIGHT be genuinely pissed-off.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Throd
(7,208 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)might they all be expecting be-winged angelic lesbians to share eternal heavenly airspace with them?
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Now ZZ Top, I could forgive.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)He's been temporarily shit-canned. Let the comparisons to Christ's crucifixion begin!
budkin
(6,703 posts)And posted a comment on this story that Jesus was actually a dark skinned liberal. You can guess how well that went over there.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)That God, she might git 'ya!
Decaffeinated
(556 posts)So at least they get that benefit...
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)Because that was the intention of your post, right?
Good to see you.
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)Hope all is well
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)What do they expect?
Not to defend the guy but that goes with the territory.
You make a show about rednecks and they are going to say redneck things.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)...so there is that.
alp227
(32,034 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)Being out is the greatest way to change folks hearts, or it can be a hurtful disaster. So it takes some bravery, even today.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)which of course is a darn shame that we don't have any in the USA.
This is in protest of the Phil "firing":
"A&E you are #$%$! Opps did I just offend you. Get a life and grow a pair. You wanted someone on your show with values. You allow others to curse on your shows I'm sure that offends people. I'm a Christian and your actions offend me! Gays, Lesbians, & Transexuals have more damn rights then the rest of us. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of the Adam & Steve and the #$%$ and #$%$, the atheists, the minorities making us the minority and trampling our rights and beliefs. This is absolutely sicking! "
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/duck-dynasty-e-suspends-phil-robertson-following-gay-003417098.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory
Do you all know we are in a dag-blamed RIGHTS WAR!!
MisterP
(23,730 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)Minor Russian royalty had the same problem, to name one group.
"the minorities making us the minority..."
I think they meant more than demographic change by saying "minority" I think they revealed how they have a need to see shit roll downhill. Now I ask you, is that the American way?
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Generally if the "stars" of a show get married in camouflage it doesn't interest me. Sorry but true - to each their own tastes and preferences. I think there are a lot of people like me - didn't even know their names until they were posted at DU.
But the flip is there are a lot of low brow people who follow the shiny object du jour that DO watch this - and they aren't "aware" people. It won't impact whether or not they watch the show. They don't have the "depth" to understand how this man should be ashamed of himself. So - the show will go on. If not now - then a year or two from now. Isn't that Bounty Hunter guy back on the air?
This is just one lost guy - lets focus on getting to America's youth before he does!
Orsino
(37,428 posts)...in our discourse--or we might not otherwise care. It's PalinCulture, and it sucks.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)It contains a confidence and arrogance beyond the rational.
Not to be a HUGE drama queen, but it sometimes descends into madness.
It is otherwise easy to ignore.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)If people accept the law and don't do anything to harm others in any way, their feelings are not against the law. I never watch Duck Dynasty.....
I liken it to paying taxes. People hate and complain about them, but they pay. It's the ones who avoid paying them in some nefarious way that are the problem.
Stop for red lights, it's the law. Another law broken all the time...so many.
The LGBT have come a long way and have suffered under people who would do them harm. The peaceful complainers may hurt feelings, but they'll come along, give them time.
It's folks like Thomas Roberts, Ellen, Anderson Cooper, Rachel Maddow, the Cheney girl, and so many other gay celebrities who have won respect for the community. The raucous comedy skits on SNL that make gays look like sex-crazed clowns....and SNL is one of my favorite programs...hurt the image of the whole community, funny as they may be, they go over the top...
If I were gay and in a serious relationship, those skits would bother me a lot more than an old guy with expressing his opinion in the only way he knows.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)But I think I've seen this cut and paste post elsewhere?
The bible admonitions carry with them the threat of violence. Always. In for a penny, in for a pound.
It calls for death.
No one is calling to legislate feelings. And homophobes do great harm to more than feelings. Children commit suicide in communities where that hateful, expired claptrap is espoused.
I know the difference between a comedy skit and monstrous nonsense barked out by a delusional, quite possibly wackerschnoodle old millionaire.
I think the greatest harm being done here in this century by Phil is the damage he does to religion.
If I were straight and in a serious relationship, those bible snips would bother me a whole lot more than an improve skit. he makes straight religious folks look like sex-crazed clowns.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)I never cut and pasted anything in the post...why would you think that I did...which part...all are my own thoughts.
So far THIS season, SNL has not had the type of skits that it had early on last year and previous years. Last year, last program, in fact , was one of the best Gay sketches I have ever seen, where Seth was doing the news with Bill Hader. The gay guy, Stefan, who's terrific, runs off hurt telling Seth that he's getting married. Seth looks distraught and runs after him to the church and finds that Stefan's going to marry Anderson Cooper..Seth stops the wedding and he and Stefan run off together.
I loved that episode, and got tears in my eyes. It was funny and spot-on as far giving everyone a gay outlook on things because it wasn't just sex, it was love.
I like the scenes where gays and lesbians are not made fun of because of promiscuity, which must hurt when others make fun. It bothers me, and I'm not gay. They just got their rights and their standing is still a bit precarious for too much horsing around and it just makes the haters get more worked up. It wasn't that long ago that straight people had to be careful about bedroom/nudity scenes in movies and tv, but little by little things changed in spite of X or R ratings.
I know the suicide threat is real and don't know the answer. I wish it would change a little faster for the sake of the young people hurt by the children of the dinosaurs.
I can relate a little. What others say "used" to bother me. Am no longer a practicing Christian because I have read too much and don't believe what I'm supposed to believe. Relatives are still Catholic or Evangelical and insist on wishing me a "blessed christmas." But I understand that they are what they think they know, not what they didn't learn, so I consider the source. Gays have to consider the source and not be so offended by the dinosaurs who are dying off. The younger ones are not like that and that's what they need to remember. It will take time.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)He is worth millions and I am sure he will love taking his money and running. Duck Commander and A&E have given him an abundance of wealth. Like A&E wasn't aware of many of these individuals views when the show started. Stereotypes are there for a reason. It was well understood that multiple members of the show have similar feelings.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)Forever.
It's so that future and hopeful "Duck Dynasty's" won't have it so good or so easy. That is the point of all this, BTW.
We call it "pushback" down on the bayou.
Catherine Vincent
(34,490 posts)LOL.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)"Merkin farm"?
Ahhh, well they say quit while you're ahead.
Packerowner740
(676 posts)littlewolf
(3,813 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)No go.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)My all time favorite was the bumper sticker what read "Kill a Queer for Christ" A popular phrase in the late 70s, early eighties.