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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 01:41 PM Dec 2013

Whole Foods CEO: Government Shouldn't ‘Take Over Entire Health Care System'

And spewing his politics is good for his business how?

What an idiot.


Whole Foods CEO John Mackey doesn’t want the government running America's health care system.

Mackey joined Fox News’ Stuart Varney on Wednesday to discuss the rollout of President Obama’s health care overhaul, better known as Obamacare. Mackey said that while he considered the law's controversial exchanges -- the online marketplaces where Americans can shop for insurance -- a “good idea,” he opposed the basic idea of government overly involving itself in the health care sector.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/18/whole-foods-health-care-s_n_4469314.html?utm_hp_ref=business
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Whole Foods CEO: Government Shouldn't ‘Take Over Entire Health Care System' (Original Post) SHRED Dec 2013 OP
Who died JustAnotherGen Dec 2013 #1
Being rich is an entitlement to spew one's mouth-drool over everyone else malthaussen Dec 2013 #2
Hey, John, I don't want corporate America running government. But they do. HughBeaumont Dec 2013 #3
+1 jsr Dec 2013 #12
Dear CEO Guy ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #4
The cognitive dissonance on the right about the PPACA is fucking stunning TransitJohn Dec 2013 #5
I wish we did too SHRED Dec 2013 #6
Willful ignorance for some but not this a$$hole. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2013 #7
I don’t think there’s good reason for the government to take over the entire health care system Johonny Dec 2013 #8
That's because the private sector does so well with no government intrusion jmowreader Dec 2013 #9
Honestly Johnny, I wish it would. That's hardly what the ACA does. marmar Dec 2013 #10
He was an ass 40 years ago when he worked at Saferway-long before Whole Paycheck hobbit709 Dec 2013 #11
i haven't heard one insurance exec bitching about the affordable care act, have you mr mackey? spanone Dec 2013 #13
Their business model depends partially on customers who distrust scientifically based medicine sibelian Dec 2013 #14
When retail businesses mix politics with business... SHRED Dec 2013 #15
I don't think he thought that through as thoroughly as you did rucky Dec 2013 #16
No? Perhaps you're right. sibelian Dec 2013 #18
You're right about that, but this CEO has a track record rucky Dec 2013 #19
Medicare is Better Than WF Insurance otohara Dec 2013 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #21
Wierd ryan_cats Dec 2013 #20
This is not the first time this clown has done this. Egnever Dec 2013 #23
This clown just cant stop spouting his winger talking points can he? Egnever Dec 2013 #22

malthaussen

(17,209 posts)
2. Being rich is an entitlement to spew one's mouth-drool over everyone else
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 01:51 PM
Dec 2013

Which is why so many "celebrities" can't keep their damned yaps shut.

-- Mal

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
3. Hey, John, I don't want corporate America running government. But they do.
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 01:53 PM
Dec 2013

Corporate America also runs the health insurance scam.

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
5. The cognitive dissonance on the right about the PPACA is fucking stunning
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 02:30 PM
Dec 2013

Coorcerced participation in a for-profit insurance racket is "government takeover" how? What the fuck right wing looney tunes? I fucking wish we had socialism or government takeover into a single payer system.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
7. Willful ignorance for some but not this a$$hole.
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 02:54 PM
Dec 2013
Coerced participation in a for-profit insurance racket is 'government takeover' how?


I fucking wish we had socialism or government takeover into a single payer system.

Johonny

(20,864 posts)
8. I don’t think there’s good reason for the government to take over the entire health care system
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 02:54 PM
Dec 2013

I wish he'd explain how many have to be left out of the system before it turns into a good reason. You get the feeling the answer has to be until he is left out then screw it everything is fine. This is basically a long I got mine rant from someone that doesn't want to see the problem so many of his "fellow" Americans face every day. His opinion has no value because he fails to even acknowledge the problem.

jmowreader

(50,561 posts)
9. That's because the private sector does so well with no government intrusion
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 03:34 PM
Dec 2013

Remember, kids: the evil government is why sausage no longer consists of floor sweepings, rotten meat and borax.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
11. He was an ass 40 years ago when he worked at Saferway-long before Whole Paycheck
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 03:49 PM
Dec 2013

And he hasn't gotten any better.

spanone

(135,855 posts)
13. i haven't heard one insurance exec bitching about the affordable care act, have you mr mackey?
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 03:53 PM
Dec 2013

that's because this is NOT the government taking over the entire health care system

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
14. Their business model depends partially on customers who distrust scientifically based medicine
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 04:18 PM
Dec 2013

which distrust in itself is supported primarily by corporate interests that need to be able to present medicine as a series of choices between agencies rather than an established process that is already understood and applicable equally to all.

It's been clear to me for some time as a beneficiary of publically funded medicine in the UK that the variety of perspectives on medicine and medical expertise in America is considerably greater that in my country, which I find very weird. Much of medicine in the US seems viewed by the US populace to be somehow a mysteriously expert practice rather than an understandably expert practice.

One of the effects of having a publically funded system is that the appropriate solution to a medical problem will be the one chosen, not the one that a medical practitioner can convince is the "best" by making it the most expensive.

Remove (some of) the choice by grounding the system, i.e. taking the profit motive out of it, and you've removed a vital component in the maintenance of the image of medical solutions in America, which is as something expensive and more in the province of opinion than fact.

All those American medical shows with doctors arguing about what to do.... A show like that wouldn't work in the UK. Here they're expected to bloody well know what they're doing.

Why go to an expensive health food store if free or even cheap medicine can educate you to take care of yourself better? Much of the UK NHS's budget is spent on education of the public.

I strongly suspect that a lot of the health nuts (I consider myself pretty health nutty, which I have an ambivalent attitude towards, I vastly prefer to eat healthily but am confused by the attitudes of some health nuts towards food) are driven to their lifestyles subconsciously through the cost of medicine.

I think that this is a smart guy making a smart move. I also think he's a total fucking tool.

rucky

(35,211 posts)
16. I don't think he thought that through as thoroughly as you did
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:17 PM
Dec 2013

that's just a bonus for him being rich dumb and lucky

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
18. No? Perhaps you're right.
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:50 PM
Dec 2013

I could also be wrong about the public understanding of medicine as a whole in the US. I don't live there, after all...

rucky

(35,211 posts)
19. You're right about that, but this CEO has a track record
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 04:45 PM
Dec 2013

of insulting his customers and employees with his views.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
17. Medicare is Better Than WF Insurance
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:21 PM
Dec 2013

and I suspect the ACA with it's high deductibles is about the same as WF.

Response to otohara (Reply #17)

ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
20. Wierd
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 04:48 PM
Dec 2013

Weird, I've always liked Whole Foods. Their persona leads people to think they are pro-environment, anti-corporate and those types of things but at the top, there is typical CEO behavior apparently.
It won't stop me from shopping there, though.

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