oh my word--a WOMAN made the decision to suspend duck jerk. turns out, the ceo and the chair

[niyad]

of A&E are both women. that should put the fundies in a froth. how DARE mere WOMEN silence a MALE?

this, by the way, is contact information for the channel:

[e-mail]

oh, and, big surprise, phil is also a woman-hater:

Said Robertson,

And we debate whether some woman has the right to tear you out of there a piece at a time? Come on! You have a god-given right to live, and of all places, inside your mother?

[boston bean]

1. what a puke.

[JEB]

2. Phil the bearded bigot can take his act on the road.

I'm sure there are lots of venues such as Klan rallies where he would be well received. Next GOP convention...Ted Nugent campaign event.

[Ken Burch]

24. Those are probably FAKE beards.

Just sayin'.

[Shrike47]

32. No, they're too damned ugly to be fake.

[Ken Burch]

49. OK...they're real beards on fake faces. n/t.

[Dawson Leery]

3. Cracker Barrel to drop Phil Robertson themed products

http://www.tmz.com/2013/12/21/duck-dynasty-cracker-barrel-phil-robertson-boycott/2/#comments-anchor

[BlueToTheBone]

5. wow! Let the sponsor drop begin. n/t

[MH1]

7. Wow the comments there are amazing.

In their backwards homophobic nutcaseness that is.

[seabeyond]

9. i read them too. yes... the ignorant leading the ignorant. nt

[fishwax]

21. wow. when cracker barrel thinks you've gone too far

[seabeyond]

4. how DARE mere WOMEN silence a MALE? ... cause the bible says. damn feminists

lmFao.

i guess the women just didnt use the right tone, grovel to the man cause we need them, they do not need us. and we are to reward for support, and OBEY... do you hear. oh, btw, we heard this from a man in hof

[Arugula Latte]

8. That fucking book of mythology has caused untold harm on this planet.

[CrispyQ]

10. But it's the word of God!

Although I read this morning that some conservative group is going to re-write parts of it to make it more conservative & somehow, it will still be the word of God.

[seabeyond]

12. as the catholic religion did way back then to dominate and control. nt

[Dawson Leery]

18. One of the most destructive texts as

the result of cult leader Constantine rewriting it to fit his selfish needs.

The original texts were offensive, only to be made worse afterwords by various interpretations.

[Scootaloo]

30. Nah, it's always been pretty fucking horrible

And the good parts? well... ever seen the aftermath of a dog eating christmas tree tinsel? That's what the "good parts" of the bible are like.

[Diclotican]

36. Dawson Leery

Dawson Leery

It was more in the name of St Paulus than Emperor Constantine.. At it was in the context of what should become of women who wanted to speak in the room if a man had the word - St Paulus should then ha stated that a woman should be quiet in the room - and not talk back to a man.. I guess even in ancient time - strong headed woman could be some of a "problem" for some men - specially if the woman had some education to boot...

Emperor Constantine on the other hand - was for the most of his life not even a christian - even though he supported the early Church - specially after many of the church leaders in the West and the East, put their faith in him because he was seen as the lesser evil - after all, the christians had been prosecuted for a couple of centuries - as many emperors was not to found of the new religion who speak about peace and non violence - in a world where you really was in need of violence and war... The Roman Empire as it was was from 280 and forward to at least 450 - in the west the Roman Empire sized to exist ca 476 - after the last emperor was "retiring" and the symbols of the roman emperor in the west given to the Eastern Empires capital Constantinople - later Byzantine..

The early Church was by 300 a power to reckon with - specially after the emperors finally had accepted the church as one of the religions they had to accept - not that it was a easy way for either of them - but until Constantine it was always a danger for the christian church - as some emperor was less inclined to support the church than others.... Constantine was also one of the emperors who made it possible for Church leaders from Europe - Asia and Africa to come together - and to decide the doctrines of faith. Something that was not easy - as specially the Church leaders in the east do had more knowledge about the religion - and also had the ability to get people on their side in doctrinal issues - at one time when the holy leaders from west and east was on others throat - Emperor Constantine had to threatened to send in the guard - to clean the room - it cooled the hot heads down somewhat - even though they never really managed to get all the details ironed out - and the differences in doctrinal understanding between the west and east should never really be solved - even today it is doctrinal differences between the Eastern Church - the Orthodox Church's and the western Church's - and now I am not even talking about the Protestant Church's out there - but the chaotic church....

Constaine was many things - but not a cult leader - he was a pragmatic leader - and Emperor who wanted to make sure he was on the right side of history - and the church should grow greatly in his time as Emperor - but it is important to point out that the Emperor himself- was not baptized before he was a old man... Mostly because in the ancient world - in the young church (who by the 3 century might not be that young anymore) hold a belief, if you baptized yourself at the end of life - you would come to heaven as a innocent man/woman.. Without the stain from life.. And Emperor Constantine do had a few stains from life...

Diclotican

[mockmonkey]

6. A&E

Owned by Hearst Corporation and Disney-ABC. I wonder how much bad news Disney is willing to put up with before they vote to pull the plug.

[CrispyQ]

11. Not a surprise at all.

What a nasty piece of crap.

[seabeyond]

14. and the dominoes start falling as companies are going to have to get rid of the duck products.

they will not be able to come back from this.

[SoCalDem]

19. I hope the trend has started..and we may soon be rid of "trash-tv"

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I am not in favor of censorship, but networks are always deciding which shows to air and which ones to ignore.. Hopefully a corner has been turned and execs will start to think of the cultural damage they do when they glorify this "style" of programming.

[abakan]

38. The backward and unwashed do not belong on our tvs ....

as entertainment. What I can't understand is the surprise anyone has that this man held these views. A&E should know once you start scraping the bottom of the barrel for "reality stars", you are not going to like the scum you find down there.

[brer cat]

50. Excellent point, abakan.

Welcome to DU!

[abakan]

54. Thank You

And thank you for the welcome...

[spanone]

13. k&r...

[TBF]

15. That's awesome. K&R

[Jesus Malverde]

16. Alternate headline

oh my word--a WOMAN made the decision to hire and promote this FAKE hillbilly family for years. turns out, the ceo and the chair of A&E are both women.

[seabeyond]

17. one has nothing to do with another. women made a good business decision as far as what their

job required them to do. then, when there was an issue, they addressed it properly, firing his ass.

what would be your point? suggest business women should not do what they are being paid to do?

[Jesus Malverde]

20. I don't think anyone should rally around the people who brought us the fake beverly hillbillies..

The family is a carefully scripted stereotype.

That we should be praising anyone involved with this fraud shows how confused television gets people.

How people miss the fact this is a modern day minstrel show is the biggest mystery.









This family is fake fake fake and the people involved are laughing all the way to bank.

In case you missed dusty's take on it, check it out..Pay particular attention to the last minutes where he distills this media event to its essence.

[seabeyond]

22. i get it. i do not watch the garbage so do not support. NOT the point. nt

[CTyankee]

25. sigh...sometimes things are just so obvious...

[seabeyond]

37. yes. and i call it time and time and time again, so we do not pretend it is not that

obvious.

yes.

[CTyankee]

39. and you are a sexist for saying it...

you could see this coming a mile away...

[seabeyond]

40. man hater. repeatedly. nt

[CTyankee]

41. Or perhaps a maneater...

[xmas74]

43. Do you think they'll think about this for their R&R induction set?

I suspect they'll play Sara Smile instead.

[CTyankee]

44. I don't know this group at all. I just used to dance in Jazzercise to this song...

it made me laugh...

[xmas74]

45. Hall and Oates are in this year's class

being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Nirvana is another being inducted this time, as is Linda Ronstadt, Kiss, Peter Gabriel and Cat Stevens.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/nirvana-kiss-e-street-lead-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fames-2014-class-20131216

[CTyankee]

46. Well, I DO recognize some of THOSE names.

They're all pretty old, too...!

[xmas74]

47. To be even considered, you must be in the industry for at least 25 years.

Hall and Oates started in the seventies and their known for their Philly style of blue eyed soul.

Are they my favorite? No, but there's certainly worse out there.

[CTyankee]

48. We are more classical music oriented, but my kids are really into vintage rock.

It's funny how they talk to each other...

[xulamaude]

42. Women can't win for lose can they?

Silly things always doin' it wrong...

Right?

[grasswire]

23. glenn beck offered them a show on his network

But maybe it's just that their beards are getting itchy and they want to play golf again.

[Major Hogwash]

33. That's where they belong!! On some teeny, tiny network that no one watches!!

CNN invited Glenn Beck on to Piers Morgan's program last night so he could spew some of his racist, scrambled eggs philosophy.
Piers wasn't there, instead they had someone else interviewing him.

It's interesting to note that the timing of this totally over-the-top interview came out so close to Christmas, so now I think it is more of a marketing ploy that went completely astray and now they have to pay the consequences.

[me b zola]

51. This has been my suspicion:

...that they have made (and are cashing in on) several high $$ merchandising contracts and they are ready to take the money and run...all the way to the bank. To me I think they figure that they know who their audience is and will "retire" as cult heroes to the hateful.

Just my feeling on the entire matter.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

26. "some woman"

There's a duck-call for you.

Translation: "women" aren't really people.

Not human beings with a right to life of their own.

Oh sure, they make casseroles for the church pot-luck, but....

They're not like us.

You know.... You and Me.
If you know what I mean--nudge, nudge.
You know...
us men-folk. ---- Members of the Club
...with a personal relationship with jeeezuss. And guns

[lpbk2713]

27. I doubt if they give a sweet rat's ass about ducks or duck calls.

Or even the Great Outdoors for that matter.


They are the decision makers for a large business and they are going with the percentages.

They decided the best way to go would be to cut their losses.

[Katashi_itto]

28. That is seriously awesome! May even more rwers go crazy

[AgingAmerican]

29. Quack quack

nt

[japple]

31. My conservative aquaintances and some facebook posters get really

mad when I call these people "actors" or "characters" in a tv reality show. They seem to think that they are just as real as the neighbors.

[pasto76]

34. but their neighbors arent very real either

there is plenty of every day wear costuming in this culture. tough guy pants, shoes/boots, shirts. Obligatory goatee or other "stylish" facial hair. All to project (hopefully) a badass vibe. Rinse wash repeat.

[Kaleva]

35. Did these the same people know of Phil's views 3 years ago?

"Conservative “Duck Dynasty” patriarch Phil Robertson was caught flapping his gums in an anti-gay tirade three years before his suspension for similar remarks.
A video captured the gray-bearded reality show icon clutching a Bible in his right hand while roundly condemning homosexuality at a 2010 Pennsylvania church dinner."


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/duck-dynasty-star-verbally-attacks-gay-people-newly-emerged-video-article-1.1553737#ixzz2o9AFdU7i

[DonCoquixote]

52. It does not matter

The bttom line is, the Robertsons were given a gravy train, and Phil chose to tick off customers by opening his big fat mouth.

Now, fakery aside, let's assume this duck call biz is a real buisness (it's not like the tooth fairy is buying all that gear.) If I was running the duck call buisness, and Phil did something to make people not want to buy my products, I would fire him. Phil, you think there are not LGBT types that Duck Hunt?

http://www.gayoutdoors.org/cfforum/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=992

You think Bass Pro Shops does not sell to Gay people Phil?

Now, this is just the damned Duck gear biz, a trade that it not geared for everyone; TV, however IS. Phil knew his comments would be broadcast from sea to shining sea, and knew he could offend a lot of customers. No one is jailing him for what he said, but if you earn privilege based on people liking you, on people wanting to asscoiate themselves with your image, then you have to know that risking that image is deadly. Now, sometimes it pays off, after all, Miley Cyrus has made a lot of money shedding the Hannah montana image, but more often, messing with your image fails.

I will say one other thing, if the CEO was around back when Dig the Bounty hunter imploded, I will tend to be harsher in my judgement. If she was around for that implosion, then she should have been more careful vetting the Roberstons, and giving them the "don't shoot yourself in the foot" lecture.

[Cha]

53. Thanks, niyad.. for the contact info!