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Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 05:16 PM Dec 2013

It's time to call fundamentalist groups what they are: Hate Groups

AFAIC, any group that espouses hateful views on a regular basis is a hate group. Doesn't matter if it's a religious group clinging to badly outdated interpretations of the Bible or any other religious text. These religious leaders have brainwashed millions into believing that gays and other minority groups are subhuman, that their mere existence is a sin. By trying these views to their religious beliefs, they make it easier for politicians and other groups to discriminate. Some of their more unstable followers use these "beliefs" as justification for violent attacks and even murder. After all, in their eyes they're just carrying out God's will.

So yes, the folks over at Duck Dynasty and anyone else who agrees with their hateful views is part of a hate group. The only difference between them and the KKK is they don't wear white hoods.

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It's time to call fundamentalist groups what they are: Hate Groups (Original Post) Hugabear Dec 2013 OP
It Is Also Time To Start Prosecuting These Groups For Hate Crimes Wherever Statutes Are In Force cantbeserious Dec 2013 #1
I agree, and free speech shouldn't be a protection against hate speech. philosslayer Dec 2013 #5
Neither of those examples are examples of free speech. Gore1FL Dec 2013 #6
You missed my point. philosslayer Dec 2013 #7
Who will define what speech is hateful? Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #10
Yeaaaahhh. Good luck with that dream Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #8
Do you think a repuke president and congress will define hate speech the same as you do? hack89 Dec 2013 #9
Let's face it.... they're dying out philosslayer Dec 2013 #12
Any speech that attacks others on the basis of race, gender, sexual orientation, etc Hugabear Dec 2013 #13
I agree philosslayer Dec 2013 #17
You gotta be careful... Raine1967 Dec 2013 #14
Who said it: Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, or Usama Bin Laden? Electric Monk Dec 2013 #2
k&r idwiyo Dec 2013 #3
They don't wear white hoods? Well....... maybe sometimes they do........ rdharma Dec 2013 #4
+1 lunasun Dec 2013 #11
AND TAKE AWAY THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS!!! undeterred Dec 2013 #15
+1 Hugabear Dec 2013 #16
+ another Zorra Dec 2013 #18
So the Amish, Mennonites and Hasidim are Hate Groups. FarCenter Dec 2013 #19
If the shoe fits Hugabear Dec 2013 #20
 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
5. I agree, and free speech shouldn't be a protection against hate speech.
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 06:46 PM
Dec 2013

There should be prohibitions against hate speech just like there is a prohibition against yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater. I really don't see the difference.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
6. Neither of those examples are examples of free speech.
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 06:49 PM
Dec 2013

Free speech involves redressing the government.

 

Blanket Statements

(556 posts)
10. Who will define what speech is hateful?
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 07:30 PM
Dec 2013

I'm sure Sarah Palin has different ideas than you do when it comes to speech that is hateful

hack89

(39,171 posts)
9. Do you think a repuke president and congress will define hate speech the same as you do?
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 07:28 PM
Dec 2013

That's a double edged sword you are swinging there. Ready for anti-blasphemy laws?

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
12. Let's face it.... they're dying out
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 08:13 PM
Dec 2013

In a few years they will be as relevant as the Whigs. They face a demographic wave that will overcome. Now is the time to strike with a progressive agenda that includes hate speech restrictions. If not now, when?

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
13. Any speech that attacks others on the basis of race, gender, sexual orientation, etc
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 08:17 PM
Dec 2013

Same way we define hate crimes.

Political speech would still be protected. You could call Obama an SOB, that's protected. Calling him a n**ger or some other racial slur wouldn't. Saying that homosexuals are going to hell and comparing them to bestiality would be hate speech.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
14. You gotta be careful...
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 08:19 PM
Dec 2013

your definition of hate speech might not be the same hate speech as the elected officials.

There's a really bad history of government defining hate speech.

East Germany might be a good example.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
20. If the shoe fits
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 04:36 PM
Dec 2013

Do these groups believe that homosexuality is a sin, that gay people are doomed to hell? Do they treat gays equally?

Hate is hate, regardless of the source

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