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Hey, just wanted to share with you DUers. Yesturday, hundreds of conservatives warked tru Paris to claim Hollande resignation. Im so sad. What they did? Nazi signs and salutes, ans slogan anti Jews, anti LGBT....and so on.
Do you Americans think Europe will be turned into various nationalist regimes, or even a war, given the actual climate of hate ( IMHO created by the crisis?)
Id like to have some support, and some overseas opinions.
Thanks.
http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/01/27/hate-filled-protest-in-france-attracts-thousands-crowd-chants-jew-france-is-not-for-you-video/
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)uppityperson
(115,679 posts)Whats means ESL, please????
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)uppityperson
(115,679 posts)I understood what you meant.
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)They ended up having the conversation in English because no one could understand what in the hell I was talking about with regards to a programming issue. I basically said something along the lines of "The overcooked sky smelled like sausages and no one can hear the taste."
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Damn it. Now I have to go to my second choice. "The burned clouds remind me of salami, that no one can listen to."
The funny thing was, I was describing that when using Windows, a certain function generated an error. LOL!
1000words
(7,051 posts)Mmmmmmmm ... sausage.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)uppityperson
(115,679 posts)Why try to understand what someone has to say, especially if they are one of them ferriners who can't be bothered to spell their non-native language properly!!!!! They DESERVE to get crap for it!!!!111111
from me but looks like what you mean.
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)Just wow.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)and then he/she could point out your errors?
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)mylye2222
(2,992 posts)appreciate If I mock you when you spell a word wrongly?
Autumn Colors
(2,379 posts)It's "peut-être" .... not "peut-etre".
OP is now free to disregard all future responses from you.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)My original post (reply #1) was meant to be a humorous way of pointing out their spelling mistake.
BTW, do you know what the French word for fascism is? It isn't fashism, it's fascisme.
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)LOL! corrected!
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)English is not my native language, so forgive my mistake! Period, lets debate the worrying topic!
uppityperson
(115,679 posts)The breaking down into opposing camps chanting and proteating basic rights is awful. Having the severe job issues in France impacts a lot as too many young people can find little work causing big difficulties and a lot of fear.
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)But now, be known that for the begining, 2 years ago, a movement begun, here, part of the Occupy global one. I took part personally in. We've been persecuted for. Then, the move lowered, and the came the LGBT Wedding act. And THOSE ATI BASIC right protests drews more people. And, truly, goveremet let them do..... Do they really wat to provoque a social blast? I don't know, but its strange how in France, Occupyers are beaten and arrested just for having sitten on a square without asking permission, to debate PEACEFULLY .....WHILE at the same times autorities tolerates: nazi salutes, slogans like " JEWS out of France" and also " lgbt must be deported
Really, today, I'm ashamed to be a fellow to those poeple.
uppityperson
(115,679 posts)Decent people, ultra conservative scary people, anti-immigration people, anti-equal rights people, neo-nazis, anti-Rom people, Algerians and other immigrants from former Fench colonies, young people who can't find work, etc etc etc. More people, less to have for all.
Mine, me first, hard to get by, let's break into groups and hate Others.
I don't know, keep hoping the good decent people will outweigh the nasty scary ones but it can be scary.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)One of the posters says the protestors were Muslims.
Many of them are, manipulated by Integrist Muslim lobbies here, but there are also numerous who came from ultra conservatives, and ultra Catholics too. Not to mention all the skinheads organisation such as "Identitary Block."
sakabatou
(42,174 posts)There will always be groups like that.
tavernier
(12,400 posts)I will be in Paris in March on vacation. There are often protests when I am there visiting, but I truly don't want to get involved... My French isn't that good. Can you give me any advice of places to stay away from?
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)Stay besides the touristic attraction, no one can protest over there,without beeing arrested by cops ( o, I'm not kidding!) That is, no matters the group of activist you belog, otherwise foreigners could see Frace is ot aymore the Eldorado they imagine.
tavernier
(12,400 posts)It had gotten rather rough around the hotel we stayed in three years ago across from the Gard Du Nord - many people sleeping on the sidewalk after dark - and I think they were doing it more to protest, not because they were homeless. It wasn't a good advertisement for tourists. 😄
We will have children along so we won't be making any trouble.
uppityperson
(115,679 posts)Do you thonk Europe will break up into other countries, or war within or between countries? Your being there, you see more immediately than we do.
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)I see not war between EU countries, but civil wars inside a single nation can be wiedly possible, yes, and sadly.....
JustAnotherGen
(31,879 posts)Je n'espère pas mon ami. J'ai ont voyagé là mes temps et aime les gens. Surtout dans le sud. Mon Français n'est pas aussi bon plus depuis que j'ai épousé un homme de l'Italie et j'apprends maintenant italien. Desolee.
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)Ton français reste excellet! It's allright. I fully understood what you meant.
hunter
(38,326 posts)We're still flooded. Even here on DU.
moondust
(20,006 posts)I imagine a lot of this stems from years of immigration from the Middle East and Africa, causing a lot of culture clash and friction. It drives the extreme RW nationalists crazy.
The U.S. also has problems stemming from immigration though probably not as bad as European countries since the U.S. is farther away and harder to get to.
One organization in the U.S. that monitors hate groups, advises law enforcement on their activities, and has the resources to take some of them down in court is the Southern Poverty Law Center:
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)In France, immigrants are since long hosted in the "cités " or ghettos, and, by time thoses places are become big trafficing markets and violent alternative "states". They were also for decades baned from better jobs, studies etc... Ad so they became more and more frustrated and turned for comfort to communautarism. And thats cotributed to increase the tenses, yes
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)And I see it's Algemeiner. I could go on for days about this outlet. here, just have a look at the sentements expressed in the comments:
end of the day there's really no difference between the racist shitheads in the march, and the racist shitheads in the comments section - both are antisemites who believe Jews have no place among other peoples or nations. It's just that one group claims their antisemitism is actually Jew-friendly. That's pretty par for the course with the Algemeiner and most other dedicated Zionist outlets like it - make the entire world look like a horrible, terrifying place for Jews, and hope to scare them into Israel.
Mosby
(16,350 posts)(JTA) A march through Paris against French President Francois Hollande ended with anti-Semitic chants and cries of support for an anti-Semitic comedian.
At least 150 protesters were arrested in the Day of Anger demonstrations on Sunday, according to reports. Nineteen police officers were injured in clashes with protesters, one seriously, the French news agency AFP reported. Police estimated that 17,000 participated in the march.
Protesters performed the quenelle, a gesture reminiscent of the Hitler salute that was invented by the anti-Semitic French comedian Dieudonne Mbala Mbala. They also called for freedom of speech on Dieudonnes behalf.
Anti-Semitic chants included Jews go home and Jews, France is not your country, according to Israel Radio.
http://www.jta.org/2014/01/27/news-opinion/world/paris-anti-hollande-march-turns-against-jews
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4481469,00.html
The Quenelle:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024240928