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http://www.politicususa.com/2014/02/04/msnbcs-chris-matthews-rachel-maddow-lawrence-odonnell-beat-fox-news.htmlMSNBCs Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow and Lawrence ODonnell All Beat Fox News
Tue, Feb 4th, 2014
Jason Easley
MSNBCs coverage of the Chris Christie scandal has powered Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow and Lawrence ODonnell all to wins over Fox News with younger viewers age 25-54.
According to TVNewser, Monday was a very good night for MSNBC, It was also a good night for MSNBC, which continued its coverage of the Chris Christie scandal throughout primetime. The network won in the demo at 7pmET, 9pmET and 10pmET. Hardball with Chris Matthews beat On the Record with Greta Van Susteren by +31,000 A25-54 viewers. Rachel Maddows program beat Megyn Kellys by +100,000 demo viewers, and The Last Word beat Hannity by +82,000.
The only time slot that Fox won was at 8 PM, where Bill OReilly saw his audience swell to nearly double its normal size, because he was airing part two of his interview with President Obama. Fox News struggles to draw younger viewers have been well documented, but the cable news leader almost lost an entire night to MSNBC. If it wasnt for Barack Obama, Fox might have been totally screwed.
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itsrobert
(14,157 posts)bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Last edited Wed Feb 5, 2014, 07:01 AM - Edit history (1)
He just needs to slow down when he speaks.I wouldn't be surprise if his show is canceled before 2015
renate
(13,776 posts)I'm watching the rerun of his show right now and I am learning a lot about the so-called "Obamacare bailout" that's easy to understand and would be easy to repeat in a discussion with a Fox viewer if I were ever unlucky enough to have one. I was just thinking before I saw your post about how nice it is to get specific factsthat refute Fox (and that reflect reality) rather than the mealymouthed, "even handed" news from the other three or four news channels. (I would also trust Al Jazeera's reporting.)
So I think Chris Hayes' show is really valuable, and I love his enthusiasm... but I think you're right, it would probably be a good thing if he were to slow down a notch.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)louis-t
(23,292 posts)stop saying "right?" at the end of every sentence! (And sometimes in the middle of a sentence).
JI7
(89,247 posts)viewers who start to tune into politics.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)MSNBC would be in all out revolt of they took Chris off his time slot! MSNBC is interested in playing the long game, Hayes is a win, win for the network and one of the most brilliant minds on cable news.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)mucifer
(23,527 posts)Squinch
(50,949 posts)clips of Fox news idiots. I can't bear to watch them. I turn him off more often than not.
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VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)and Ed explained his position today...He believes they ARE going to take out the Tar Sands regardless of how it is done......and they WILL use trains...and he fears more rail explosions right in HIS backyard....I don't agree but he has his reasons...
Besides Ed's numbers were better when he was in the 8pm slot...and his replacement in that slot hasn't been able to make a great showing with it...
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)crashing into his favorite walleye lake. I don't blame him. I wish I had a walleye lake.
Someone has convinced Ed that pipelines are much safer than trains for transporting oil.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)you cannot stop them...the tar sands ARE going to go to market. He says he hates it....but that is the reality.
Cha
(297,137 posts)Ha! "Rachel Maddows program beat Megyn Kellys by +100,000 demo viewers, and The Last Word beat Hannity by +82,000.
Herman D
(15 posts)I'm not trying to rain on any parades or stir up any trouble, but the LA Times has a different story:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-fox-news-cable-state-of-the-union-ratings-20140129,0,1661290.story#axzz2sPjkeDNv
Squinch
(50,949 posts)Herman D
(15 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Even Hayes numbers are strong.
He is easily beating CNN.
Gothmog
(145,129 posts)madville
(7,408 posts)I'm surprised Fox still sweeps primetime with the older demographics. They're all in bed asleep by 8pm right?
Herman D
(15 posts)A person has a few gray hairs from changing diapers, wiping running noses and dealing with the shenanigans of children and they are in bed by 8 o'clock?
I don't think so.
Not funny.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)When they (we) all die off....they will be screwed. Who the hell would want to watch or listen to him?
Herman D
(15 posts)It just is AND it is wrong.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)But that is a silly comment. That's how most everyone in the media describes that demographic. I happen to be one of them... but I'm female and Democratic so I don't watch FOX. But when my generation is gone...Fox is going to have trouble attracting viewers and the ReThugs will have problems attracting constituents. That also means less money.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Classifying people by age... is a prejudice" It's also part and parcel of one or more commercial demographics, which is an implicit part of the story in the OP.
Herman D
(15 posts)A slanderous label or generality made about a demographic is completely different and wrong.
It is akin to a racial slur. The Left side is the side of acceptance, is it not?
Squinch
(50,949 posts)loudsue
(14,087 posts)watch it whenever he wants.
There are a lot of southerners in rural N.C. where I live that eat that shit up. THEY BELIEVE what they hear. It's really troubling.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)They don't want to teach them to think for themselves. When that demographic does learn to think for themselves and they finally learn they're voting against their own best interests...ReThugs will be really screwed...their own stupid fault.
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)Move Chris to 4 pm and move Alex Wagner to 8 and put Tweety at 5 and dump Ed.
iows:
4 pm - Chris Hayes
5 pm - Tweety
6 pm - Rev. Al
7pm - Jo Ann Reid
8 pm - Alex Wagner
9 pm - Rachel
10 pm - Lawrence
at 11 repeat Chris Hayes
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)90-percent
(6,829 posts)Keith deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for his service to truth and country during the GW Bush dark ages.
He was brilliant and humorous besides.
-90% Jimmy
Enthusiast
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libdem4life
(13,877 posts)He's the only serious news person I have observed who can take down the "mighty" with such acerbic, intellectual precision that you could almost not see it happening. Class and Style and a very sharp Wit...I was a fan. He could talk O'Reilly/Hannity et al under the table...with facts, an amazing memory, and with skill. He broke through glass ceilings/walls...too many, it seems.
Did I mention I was a fan? LOL
In memory of Hilary Rosen, Martin Bashir...and other sadly, lectured, fired, brought in line..et al "Offenders of Republicans".
But I'm not going to badmouth MSNBC. They are the closest media outlet that strays a bitty bit to the Left of Center. So I watch them and look forward to Joy's new show.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Tweety at 7pm ET is right on point. Joy can go to 2pm ET when I'm watching General Hospital. Glad they're moving Tamron Hall to 11am ET as I always had to choose between my favorite TRUE Journalist (schooled and trained in the field) Tamron and GH. Now I can watch both.
Not a fan of Joy Ann Reid.
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)story broke? He is showing a profound inability to connect the dots. It is too much for him.
It appears he goes between the city and the Vineyard and spends all of his off-air time with plutocrats who allow him his ridiculous over-blown ego and stories from the 80s.
He frames everything with 20th century political notions to the extent I am embarrassed for him and for MSNBC. Remember he is so removed from the real world that he was beyond certain that the country wanted Rudy G. for their President in 2008. pathetic
You are the only DUer I know who does not like Joy-Ann Reid. She is brilliant and has a lot of fans here.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)I can't stand this voice...although he has good things to say...he says them too loudly! We're right here next to the TV...not out in the yard somewhere. Our problem is we have too many excellent journalists or commentators. I also liked Wagner when she was on at noon and I like Chris just where he is.
Springslips
(533 posts)It's kind of like Mystery Theatre 3000, except we watch Fox News, and there's a lot if cussing.
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)Someone fifty-four years old is considered a younger viewer?
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)most certainly
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)That's good news.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)another_liberal
(8,821 posts)It's just that the label "younger" is misleading when applied to people over fifty.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Let's just say that over fifty is the "old" over thirty. See how easy it is? Mark my words...in 10 years we'll slip in the "over 60 youngsters"
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Advertisers like to see people in that age group watching as many commercials as possible.
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)Is hardly a young person, ask one.
Silent3
(15,200 posts)...but truth be told, 5-10 minutes of update per hour would be more than enough for me until something really big and new breaks. There are many, many other stories worth covering that are getting shortchanged on MSNBC these days.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)A bit sick and tired of the rain on Chris Christie parade at MSNBC. The man is not going to be successful in the least, IF he somehow manages to survive this scandal, retain his Governor's seat and runs for President in 2016. Stick a fork in him... Christie's Presidential hopes are done. He's no Bill "Comeback Kid" Clinton.
MSNBC is sounding like a broken record -- and especially on Shapton and Maddow show today. (Missed Hayes and Tweety). If they keep this up, I'm turning to Discover ID for two weeks -- then see if the vinyl of "repeat" has changed.
Still will tune into my girl Tamron at 11 am ET to come. So glad she's getting a show at the true NEWS, not talking heads all day, everyday -- hours of the evening.
caledesi
(11,903 posts)FAUX "news" is registered as an ENTERTAINMENT channel. That is why they come up with all this shit!
They can (and do) say anything. The dirty little secret is that they trled to report real news, but an authentic journalist who worked for Faux tried to sue them and they ran over to the FCC very fast and registered as an Entertainment channel...but...but...ah.. because WE are an entertainment venue...he CANNOT sue us. Case closed. No suit.
It's a sad commentary when Jon Stewart and S.
Cobert have more REAL news than FAUX!
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)I think he's wonderful, I wish he was my son and I could have him and his family over for dinner. The shorter time period during the week seems to be hard for him to adjust to, I like his show because of his ows and climate change stuff, who else covers that? Love Joy Reid so smart and quick, don't like Ed much. Matthews is sometimes right on target and other times hopelessly lost. Rachel is always great and I adore Lawrence for his snark. Tamron is wonderful, I think Thomas Roberts should replace moaning Joe in the morning, he's smart and funny.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)seveneyes
(4,631 posts)I was at relatives and watched an hour or more of programming on msnbc. It looked like more than 40% of the programming were commercials. For paid TV, that is way too much noise for a person to handle in regular doses. The ratio has only gotten worse since I last had a signal.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)You used to watch programs occasionally interrupted short breaks for commercials.
Now you watch commercials occasionally interrupted by short breaks for programming.
Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)We win!
ancianita
(36,023 posts)OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)that they are all corporate sellout neo-liberal shills. Including, and specifically, Maddow.
So I can't get too excited.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)indepat
(20,899 posts)pretext with relish and flavor.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,306 posts)This is commercial news. In terms of likelihood to vote, older viewers are actually more important.