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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:01 PM Feb 2014

The Real Damage of Chemophobia

http://www.thecollapsedwavefunction.com/2014/02/the-real-damage-of-chemophobia.html

"...

Chemophobia is an irrational fear of chemicals. It can (and has been) debated that the word itself creates more of the same irrational fear; that it drives the fear deeper by making it a point to ridicule. Whether that is true I'm not completely convinced. What I am convinced of is that an irrational fear of chemicals runs deeper every day. This fear is seemingly unchecked by the chemistry community at large. I don't mean we don't talk about it. We do. We talk plenty about it. But what are we doing about it?

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The reason this is such a big deal has nothing to do with those individual products. The real damage of chemophobia comes when little by little the word "chemical" becomes a bad thing. The harm comes when people believe that if you can't pronounce an ingredient you should never put it in your body. Ingredients like thiomersal, monosodium glutamate (MSG), and formaldehyde. You'll find these ingredients in vaccines. Vaccines that save lives. Vaccines that - if avoided - will cost lives. So yes, chemophobia kills. I'm not just a pedantic chemist. An irrational fear leads to irrational decisions and every corporate concession legitimizes that fear. When General Mills goes against their own policy to appease the GMO free crowd they misinform the public. This misinformation leads to third-world countries banning GMO crops; the very crops that can help produce a thriving farming industry.

This is all very disheartening but I'm a perpetual optimist. I think chemophobia is something that can be overcome. If the Food Babe can bring about change in as little as 24 hours with one petition then so can we. I challenge organizations like the American Chemical Society to be more vocal about chemophobia. Do it in a way that educates. Do it in an open way, not behind a pay wall or trapped behind the safety of the chemistry blogosphere. Do it in a way that the American public won't be able to ignore. Do it in a way the American people will love you for. Chemistry doesn't need to be scary, but it doesn't need to be boring either. It won't be easy and it won't be cheap. But it is necessary and I think we can do it.

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A rather good, quick read. Just say no to chemophobia!!!!

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The Real Damage of Chemophobia (Original Post) HuckleB Feb 2014 OP
K&R. n/t FSogol Feb 2014 #1
Thanks!! HuckleB Feb 2014 #16
Everything is chemicals Mz Pip Feb 2014 #2
Holy crap - i never thought of it like that. And I'm terrified of life. el_bryanto Feb 2014 #3
It's all good. No worries. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2014 #4
Nonsense! Do you know how many people die from Dihydrogen oxide???? longship Feb 2014 #5
Hydrohydroxic acid Recursion Feb 2014 #6
Poor Mr Brown he is no more what he thought was H2O was H2SO4 Fumesucker Feb 2014 #7
Q: What do you do with a dead Chemist? Fumesucker Feb 2014 #8
Have you no respect? RobertEarl Feb 2014 #9
Got Derp? HuckleB Feb 2014 #10
Are those chemicals in your pants? RobertEarl Feb 2014 #14
Yeh, that smelly stuff our mine spilled in y'all's water supply? It won't hurt ya! Zorra Feb 2014 #11
Thanks for the great example of classic red herring based chemophobia! HuckleB Feb 2014 #15
A pet peeve of mine is when people say: TheMathieu Feb 2014 #12
nanoparticles (NPs) reusrename Feb 2014 #13
Idiotic food blogger persuades Subway to remove additive from bread HuckleB Feb 2014 #17
Why I'm Not Worried About Yoga Mat Chemicals in My Food HuckleB Feb 2014 #18

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
3. Holy crap - i never thought of it like that. And I'm terrified of life.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:43 PM
Feb 2014

So I guess chemicals must be just as bad.

Bryant

longship

(40,416 posts)
5. Nonsense! Do you know how many people die from Dihydrogen oxide????
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 01:03 AM
Feb 2014

Chemicals are evil. Plus, nobody understands what those names mean!

ARRRRRGH!

....

Ahem!

Sorry about that. I'll feel better in a moment. Maybe a glass of water.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. Hydrohydroxic acid
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 02:25 AM
Feb 2014

Looking back over my inorganic textbook from grad school I'm convinced that's what the "real" systematic name is...

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
9. Have you no respect?
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 03:20 AM
Feb 2014

Have you been sucking too many chemical fumes, or what?

The OP is trying, desperately, to save your life, desperately I tell you, by making sure you suck down the chemicals that industry has provided for their profiteering. Like that rubber in the bread stuff. Do you know how many profits that made? Do you even care about the job of the guy who dishes that stuff out like candy? You think his next job will be feeding candy to babies? I doubt that!!

People like you, making fun of the chemical rubber makers who just want to make a little profit selling you stuff they can't sell anywhere else, are killing industry! Your type are the reason there are regulations, damnit, regulations that cost profits. And profits are more important than you making jokes, which I see you doing very well, thankyou.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
11. Yeh, that smelly stuff our mine spilled in y'all's water supply? It won't hurt ya!
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:01 AM
Feb 2014

Honest.

That greenish red water comin' out of yer tap may look a bit scary, but trust us, it's fine, y'all can drink it, it won't hurt ya.

Tastes like chicken.

 

TheMathieu

(456 posts)
12. A pet peeve of mine is when people say:
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:03 AM
Feb 2014

"I can't even pronounce that. Why should I eat something with it in it?"

Jeez, real scientific process you have going there.

 

reusrename

(1,716 posts)
13. nanoparticles (NPs)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:49 AM
Feb 2014

This stuff scares the crap out of me. Nature has never had to deal with these man-made structures.




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...The lack of toxicology data on engineered NPs does not allow for adequate risk assessment. Because of this, some may even believe that engineered NPs are so risky that they call for a precautionary halt in NP-related research...


...At this point, governmental regulation is not possible, given the lack of needed information on which to base such regulations. However, academia, industry, and regulatory governmental agencies should seriously consider the view that NPs have new and unique biologic properties and that the potential risks of NPs are not the same as those of the bulk material of the same chemistry...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1257642/



Even the proponents of the technology are nervous.


...Nanotechnology, nanomedicine and nanotoxicology are complementary disciplines aimed at the betterment of human life. However, concerns have been expressed about risks posed by engineered nanomaterials (ENMs), their potential to cause undesirable effects, contaminate the environment and adversely affect susceptible parts of the population. Information about toxicity and biokinetics of nano-enabled products combined with the knowledge of unintentional human and environmental exposure or intentional delivery for medicinal purposes will be necessary to determine real or perceived risks of nanomaterials...


...because a risk of adverse effects associated with ENMs is a function of hazard and exposure [risk = f (hazard; exposure)], the generally accepted approach is to incorporate both components into a risk assessment paradigm, consisting of Hazard Identification, Hazard Characterization, Exposure Assessment and Risk Characterization [64] so that appropriate risk management decisions can be made...

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2796.2009.02187.x/full



The OP is fine, but folks should also check this out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_on_Emerging_Nanotechnologies

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
18. Why I'm Not Worried About Yoga Mat Chemicals in My Food
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 02:17 PM
Feb 2014
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/monica-reinagel-ms-ldn-cns/azodicarbonamide-subway_b_4770189.html

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Let's try to put the image of that blogger tearing a bite off of her yoga mat out of our minds, set aside our irrational chemophobia, and take more level-headed look at this chemical. Why is it in our food and how much harm is it doing?

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Besides, as I said earlier, you don't actually ingest any azodicarbonamide when you eat bread made with it. During the mixing process, it breaks down into a compound called biurea, a comopund that is readily excreted from the body. Other byproducts include semicarbazide and ethyl carbamate.

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If you're really concerned about your health, I suggest skipping the fast food joints altogether and making make more of your food at home, using whole foods. How about we try to eat less white bread and more fruits and vegetables? Let's make our peace with the fact that eating real food sometimes costs more and/or takes more time but is well worth the investment.

But above all, let's not waste our consumer power tilting at windmills and yoga mats. I think our energy and passion would be better spent pushing for meaningful reform of the Farm Bill, for example, or improving school lunch programs and nutrition curricula in our schools."



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