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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:13 AM Feb 2014

You can't call yourself an evironmentalist while massively expanding dirty energy

and giving big gifts to big oil and gas.

You can't claim to care about climate change when you do that.

President Obama often says the right things while he's busy do the exact opposite- whether it's on immigration, climate change, energy, social security, trade, etc.

Sleight of hand. He's good at it. And democrats so desperately want to believe what he says, that largely they do.

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Autumn

(45,107 posts)
1. Meanwhile natural gas pipelines are exploding, trains carrying oil
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:16 AM
Feb 2014

are derailing and the shit going on in Virgina just keeps on going. We are fucked and you are correct.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. Of course you can call yourself an environmentalist while massively expanding dirty energy, if
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:19 AM
Feb 2014

you have a ludicrously uncritical base of admirers.
Politics is a lie, and politicians lie.

"And democrats so desperately want to believe what he says, that largely they do."
I believe that the term "democrats" has pretty much been redefined. No longer a set of ideals, just a set of people voting for the "D" on the jersey, like good little camp followers.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. You're right
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:20 AM
Feb 2014

"President Obama often says the right things while he's busy do the exact opposite- whether it's on immigration, climate change, energy, social security, trade, etc."

...his entire Presidency is bullshit.

Still, you do approve of somethings don't you

...like this historic move: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024489919

or this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024493064
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024492896

What about the health care thing

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024462392
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024449184

jsr

(7,712 posts)
6. "When our children’s children look us in the eye and ask if we did all we could
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:25 AM
Feb 2014

to leave them a safer, more stable world, with new sources of energy, I want us to be able to say yes, we did.” - SOTU 2014

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
7. Holder pushes for criminal-justice overhaul
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:29 AM
Feb 2014
Holder pushes for criminal-justice overhaul

By Steve Benen

When it comes to progressive causes, Attorney General Eric Holder has been quite busy. Over the weekend, for example, he unveiled “a bold effort by his department to eliminate the distinction between same-sex and opposite-sex married couples in the federal justice system.” Yesterday he issued instructions declaring that it is the Justice Department’s policy “to recognize lawful same-sex marriages as broadly as possible” and “treat all individuals equally regardless of sexual orientation.”

Holder is fighting against conservative restrictions on voting rights. He’s allowing Colorado and the state of Washington to pursue marijuana legalization. He’s fighting for sentencing reforms. He’s combating “Stand Your Ground” laws.

If the Attorney General retires at the end of the year, as is widely rumored, Holder will depart as arguably the most underrated champion of the progressive agenda to serve in his office in recent memory.

And as Adam Serwer noted this morning, Holder’s not done.

Disenfranchisement of the formerly incarcerated is unnecessary, unjust and counterproductive, Attorney General Eric Holder told an audience at the Georgetown University Law Center on Tuesday.

“At worst, these laws, with their disparate impact on minority communities, echo policies enacted during a deeply troubled period in America’s past – a time of post-Civil War discrimination,” Holder said. “And they have their roots in centuries-old conceptions of justice that were too often based on exclusion, animus and fear.”

Holder’s remarks were made at a bipartisan criminal justice symposium held by the Leadership Conference for Civil and Human Rights.

Good for Holder. This is an important issue that too often gets ignored, largely because we’re talking about the loss of voting rights for ex-cons with no meaningful political capital.

- more -

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/holder-pushes-criminal-justice-overhaul

Criminalizing Drug Users Is Killing People
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024490386

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
8. It is a sad thing to have to come to terms with the Obama we voted for and the one we got
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:31 AM
Feb 2014

Like a lot of people, I gave him the benefit of the doubt. When he was up for a 2nd term, I hoped, as a lot of us did, that "now the progressive Obama will come out". I made excuses for him and waited anxiously for something remotely resembling a Democrat to show up, something resembling a man of conviction who realized his victory was owed to people who want him to lead a nation for all people, not just the Corporatists and the 1%. I feel so fucking let down by him.

Hope and change my ass.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
9. He also kicks puppies competitively for distance and accuracy ...
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:54 AM
Feb 2014

This one went 45 feet, did a flip, and landed in a glass of water.

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