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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 03:05 PM Mar 2014

Rep. Steve King: ‘Self-professed’ gays could entrap businesses by pretending

By David Edwards
Monday, March 3, 2014 13:58 EST

Rep. Steve King (R-IA) on Sunday said that he opposed protecting LGBT people in hate crimes legislation because their attributes were not “immutable,” and so they couldn’t prove their sexual orientation.

During an interview with WHO-TV, King expressed regret that Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R) had vetoed a bill that would have allowed business owners to use their religion as reason to discriminate against LGBT people.

“You’re an individual entrepreneur with God-given rights that our founders defined in the Declaration of Independence,” he explained. “You should be able to make your own decisions with what you do in that private business.”


King acknowledged that the public accommodation section of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 protected individuals based on race, religion and other characteristics.

“And there’s nothing mentioned in there on self-professed behavior,” he said, referring to homosexuality. “And that’s what they’re trying to perfect, is special rights for self-professed behavior. And I think it’s difficult for us to define a law that would protect self-professed behavior.”

But when asked if his use of the term “self-professed behavior” meant that being LGBT was a choice, King said that he wasn’t sure.

“I think it exists across the continuum in some type of a curve, and I don’t know what that curve actually looks like,” the Iowa Republican opined. “I think some’s nature and some’s nurture. Some might be purely each. But I think a lot of it is a combination of nature and nurture.”

“And the one thing I referenced when I say ‘self-professed,’ how do you know who to discriminate against?” he continued. “They about have to tell you. And are they then setting up a case, is this about bringing a grievance or is it actually about a service that they’d like to have?”

“And doesn’t free enterprise provide that service if the demand is there? Someone can open up a cake shop, can’t they?”

In the end, King argued that LGBT people didn’t deserve equal protection because their sexual orientation could not be “independently verified” and can be “willfully changed.”

“And when we get into area of hate crimes legislation, I’ve opposed that because you’re punishing people for what you think went on in their head at the time they perpetuated a crime,” he said. “And it’s a murky area of the law. We’ve not gone that way until the modern era, and I think it gets very messy.”

Watch the video below from WHO-TV:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/03/rep-steve-king-self-professed-gays-could-entrap-businesses-by-pretending/

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Rep. Steve King: ‘Self-professed’ gays could entrap businesses by pretending (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2014 OP
I wonder why he runs around pretending to be a human being. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #1
How about Steve King proving he's a Christian? Mz Pip Mar 2014 #2
He's a self-professed asshole Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #3
Crazy in the morning... butterfly77 Mar 2014 #4
Self-professed Christians against self-professed Gays. Bandit Mar 2014 #5
I wont comment on the rest of the silliness qazplm Mar 2014 #6
I wonder how many times Steve King has "willfully changed" his sexual orientation. nt nyquil_man Mar 2014 #7
Wouldn't religion be "self-professed?" ...and "nature and nurture?" Really? cyberswede Mar 2014 #8
And they reelected this crazy fucker 5 times. jsr Mar 2014 #9
Um . . . LumosMaxima Mar 2014 #10
He is a racist...all the way back to 2008 if Obama won POTUS Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #11
"Born Agains" are not "self-professed?" SHEESH IllinoisBirdWatcher Mar 2014 #12
Everybody wants to be Aerows Mar 2014 #13

Mz Pip

(27,430 posts)
2. How about Steve King proving he's a Christian?
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 03:09 PM
Mar 2014

Are all the haters really Christian? They should prove it before they deny service.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
5. Self-professed Christians against self-professed Gays.
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 03:15 PM
Mar 2014

Who is to say? and it isn't just about Gays. It is about ANTONE the Haters want to discriminate against. You are Pro Choice, then expect to be discriminated against. I am sure there are tons of other examples as well.

qazplm

(3,626 posts)
6. I wont comment on the rest of the silliness
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 03:16 PM
Mar 2014

but on the "inside their head" crap...how does he think specific intent crimes get prosecuted? By definition you have "punish people for what you think went on in their head at the time they perpetuated the crime."

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
8. Wouldn't religion be "self-professed?" ...and "nature and nurture?" Really?
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 03:16 PM
Mar 2014
“I think it exists across the continuum in some type of a curve, and I don’t know what that curve actually looks like,” the Iowa Republican opined. “I think some’s nature and some’s nurture. Some might be purely each. But I think a lot of it is a combination of nature and nurture.”


Just what part of being gay comes from "nurture," exactly?

LumosMaxima

(585 posts)
10. Um . . .
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 03:19 PM
Mar 2014

“And the one thing I referenced when I say ‘self-professed,’ how do you know who to discriminate against?”

Seems to me it would be a lot simpler to just, you know, NOT DISCRIMINATE. Then you don't have to worry about vexing questions like that.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
11. He is a racist...all the way back to 2008 if Obama won POTUS
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 03:20 PM
Mar 2014

"The radical Islamists, the al Qaeda ... would be dancing in the streets in greater numbers than they did on Sept. 11 because they would declare victory in this war on terror," King said in an interview Friday with the Daily Reporter in Spencer.

He is a hateful man.

IllinoisBirdWatcher

(2,315 posts)
12. "Born Agains" are not "self-professed?" SHEESH
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 03:21 PM
Mar 2014

"...how do you know who to discriminate against?"

If those fake christians like Steve King would only be required to wear yellow stars on their clothing, then everyone would know to drool over them or discriminate against them.

It would be so easy. Maybe he could pass a law.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
13. Everybody wants to be
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 03:24 PM
Mar 2014

a "self-professed" gay. It doesn't cost many people their families, it doesn't rob them of a great education because they get the crap beaten out of them at schools for being different, and it doesn't rob them of the ability to attend church. There are no social disadvantages to being gay - no, we run everything.

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