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Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:05 PM

"goons" (not -----) which is a "term of endearment" according to Zimmerman's best friend

This morning on ABC News, Oliver was asked about the moment on the 911 tapes when some believe that, just prior to killing Trayvon Martin, Zimmerman used a racial slur. Oliver suggested that Zimmerman did not use a racial slur but said “goons,” which Oliver described as a “term of endearment.” Watch it:



http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/03/25/451392/friend-zimmerman-racial-slur-term-of-endearment/

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Reply "goons" (not -----) which is a "term of endearment" according to Zimmerman's best friend (Original post)
underpants Mar 2012 OP
MADem Mar 2012 #1
valerief Mar 2012 #6
MADem Mar 2012 #12
pokerfan Mar 2012 #17
Mariana Mar 2012 #19
MADem Mar 2012 #20
CakeGrrl Mar 2012 #2
MNBrewer Mar 2012 #3
Quixote1818 Mar 2012 #4
Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #5
K Gardner Mar 2012 #7
Quixote1818 Mar 2012 #23
K Gardner Mar 2012 #8
Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #13
valerief Mar 2012 #11
MADem Mar 2012 #15
onethatcares Mar 2012 #31
gort Mar 2012 #9
socialist_n_TN Mar 2012 #10
arcane1 Mar 2012 #16
Old and In the Way Mar 2012 #14
SomethingFishy Mar 2012 #18
Mariana Mar 2012 #21
obxhead Mar 2012 #22
ljm2002 Mar 2012 #24
arcane1 Mar 2012 #28
KamaAina Mar 2012 #25
niyad Mar 2012 #26
yardwork Mar 2012 #27
Oilwellian Mar 2012 #29
butterfly77 Mar 2012 #30

Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:07 PM

1. I always thought "goons" was an old-school term for "thugs"

...and I haven't heard that word since the late fifties, early sixties!

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Response to MADem (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:11 PM

6. It is. Zimmerman thinks we're as stupid as he is. nt

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Response to valerief (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:18 PM

12. Yep.

Thing is, all that might make some intrepid Jimmy Olsen or Lois Lane want to do is run around and ask people if Georgie was an habitual user of that word, or if he used that OTHER word, you know, the one that is the last syllable of the term that describes those bandit-faced furry creatures that knock over the garbage cans in some environments?

Twisted explanations almost never cut it!



He doesn't look like he's buying it, either!

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Response to MADem (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:24 PM

17. I've only heard it in the context of hockey

Enforcer is an unofficial role in ice hockey. The term is sometimes used synonymously with "fighter", "tough guy", or "goon". An enforcer's job is to deter and respond to dirty or violent play by the opposition. When such play occurs, the enforcer is expected to respond aggressively, by fighting or checking the offender. Enforcers are expected to react particularly harshly to violence against star players or goalies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enforcer_%28ice_hockey%29


I'm not buying this latest spin.

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Response to pokerfan (Reply #17)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:33 PM

19. Me too. However, I HAVE heard the other term used

by racist assholes. Some people seem to think that term is obsolete and is no longer used when referring to people with dark skin. That is not true.

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Response to pokerfan (Reply #17)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:36 PM

20. I am not buying it either.

And really, why would anyone call 911 and mutter a "term of endearment" about the person one is pursuing to the 911 operator, right before they shot the person?

"Yeah I'm following this 'just adorable little muffin-faced sweetheart'..." BOOM!

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:08 PM

2. Twisting and spinning to get a racist profiling murderer off the hook

Too bad there are so many 911 calls that illustrate his bias.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:09 PM

3. Oh dear

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:11 PM

4. I don't think anyone in their right mind bought that in the slightest.

Talk about absurd! I about threw up on that one.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:11 PM

5. Someone needs to alert Hallmark

They are apparently missing out on the all important "Fucking goon" sentiment.

Maybe someone can pick a day in, say, August or some other low-card-sending-month to celebrate this term of endearment in a more formal manner.

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:14 PM

7. +10 DUZY.... ROFL !!! n/t

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Response to K Gardner (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:01 PM

23. I second that! nt

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:15 PM

8. I know whenever I want my kids to know how much I love them, I

make sure and say: "You know I love you, you fucking goon."

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Response to K Gardner (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:18 PM

13. It will be ever so much more special if you hold out

for Fucking Goon Day. That way, they will know you really, really mean it.

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:18 PM

11. You haven't seen the new goon birthday card?

Another year has passed.
It's time to sing that tune.
Happy birthday to you,
My friend, my pal, my goon.

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:19 PM

15. I agree--DUzy! nt

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 05:06 PM

31. can I take that as my floating holiday?

or not?

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:17 PM

9. Works for me. I also believed Rick Santorum when he said

he meant to say "Blah"-people.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:17 PM

10. A term of endearment huh?..........

Even giving him this phrase instead of the more racially charged one, WHY would he use a "term of endearment" for someone he obviously thought was an "asshole who always gets away with it"? Or whatever the following phrase was. Not only is it a CYA move, it doesn't even make sense. At least not as a "term of endearment".

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Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #10)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:22 PM

16. Yes, exactly who was he endearing with this term?

Trayvon? The dispatcher?


This is one of the most pitiful defenses I've seen in quite some time, and actually serves to further convince me that he did in fact say "coons"

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:18 PM

14. I suppose "these assholes" is also a term of endearment, too?

Zimmerman used dehumanizing, racist language in his 911 tapes. It really matters not if it were coons/goons. He's still a racist. I'm betting there are other "terms of endearment" that Zimmerman has documented. I want to know what his online name was and where he posted. I sure hope they can locate his digital life because I'll bet this guy had lots of insight to share about blacks.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:29 PM

18. "Goons" and "Bleh People"...

Yeah.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:37 PM

21. Interesting that he didn't go for the "fucking punks" interpretation.

Since lots of people seem to hear that on the tape, and while it's an insult, it's not racial. He MUST have said "coons".

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:42 PM

22. To me this just comes across that it is in fact on the tapes

and that "fucking coons" is exactly what he said.

Hopefully the racist asshole Zimmermann will be arrested soon.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:10 PM

24. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that "goons" can be a term of endearment...

...now please explain how the term "fucking goons" is still a term of endearment??? Especially when it is uttered seconds before fatally shooting the person in question???

Puhleeze. This person is a fucking goon. And by that, I do not mean a term of endearment!

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Response to ljm2002 (Reply #24)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:47 PM

28. He only followed Trayvon to express his endearment

He just wanted to give him a hug and was unjustly attacked for it.

It all makes sense now

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:16 PM

25. So it's not another word for "blaaaaah people"?

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:22 PM

26. the last definition is one I had not heard before, but nowhere do I see anything as a term of "

endearment"

goon
  Example Sentences Origin

goon
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noun
1.
Informal . a hired hoodlum or thug.
2.
Slang .
a.
a stupid, foolish, or awkward person.
b.
a roughneck.
Origin:
1920–25; shortened from dial. gooney, variant of obsolete gony a simpleton (< ?); influenced by the comic-strip character Alice the Goon in the series Thimble Theatre by E. C. Segar (1894–1938), American cartoonist
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Example Sentences

Here was this guy who was the biggest goon alive, and he was so kind.

Anybody who is not in on the goon conspiracy knows what he's about.

The regime arrested many protest leaders and sent in plain-clothes goon squads to attack the demonstrators.

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goon 1 (ɡuːn)

— n
1. a stupid or deliberately foolish person
2. informal ( US ) a thug hired to commit acts of violence or intimidation, esp in an industrial dispute



goon 2

— n
informal ( Austral ) cheap wine packaged in casks or boxed (I have heard of cheap wine being called "plonk", but this is a new one to me)

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:24 PM

27. And Santorum said "blah" people.

It would appear that Zimmerman's friend is conceding that he used a racist slur.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:09 PM

29. Someone on DU enhanced the audio of the word in question

It was clearly a hard "C" sound. Can't find the link now.

I'm sure the professional software available to enhance every word captured by the 911 calls will answer a lot of our questions.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:17 PM

30. How long did it take..

for them to think that up..first word rhymes with?????

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