Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:05 PM
underpants (105,621 posts)
"goons" (not -----) which is a "term of endearment" according to Zimmerman's best friend
This morning on ABC News, Oliver was asked about the moment on the 911 tapes when some believe that, just prior to killing Trayvon Martin, Zimmerman used a racial slur. Oliver suggested that Zimmerman did not use a racial slur but said “goons,” which Oliver described as a “term of endearment.” Watch it:
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/03/25/451392/friend-zimmerman-racial-slur-term-of-endearment/
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31 replies, 2313 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| underpants | Mar 2012 | OP | |
| MADem | Mar 2012 | #1 | |
| valerief | Mar 2012 | #6 | |
| MADem | Mar 2012 | #12 | |
| pokerfan | Mar 2012 | #17 | |
| Mariana | Mar 2012 | #19 | |
| MADem | Mar 2012 | #20 | |
| CakeGrrl | Mar 2012 | #2 | |
| MNBrewer | Mar 2012 | #3 | |
| Quixote1818 | Mar 2012 | #4 | |
| Ruby the Liberal | Mar 2012 | #5 | |
| K Gardner | Mar 2012 | #7 | |
| Quixote1818 | Mar 2012 | #23 | |
| K Gardner | Mar 2012 | #8 | |
| Ruby the Liberal | Mar 2012 | #13 | |
| valerief | Mar 2012 | #11 | |
| MADem | Mar 2012 | #15 | |
| onethatcares | Mar 2012 | #31 | |
| gort | Mar 2012 | #9 | |
| socialist_n_TN | Mar 2012 | #10 | |
| arcane1 | Mar 2012 | #16 | |
| Old and In the Way | Mar 2012 | #14 | |
| SomethingFishy | Mar 2012 | #18 | |
| Mariana | Mar 2012 | #21 | |
| obxhead | Mar 2012 | #22 | |
| ljm2002 | Mar 2012 | #24 | |
| arcane1 | Mar 2012 | #28 | |
| KamaAina | Mar 2012 | #25 | |
| niyad | Mar 2012 | #26 | |
| yardwork | Mar 2012 | #27 | |
| Oilwellian | Mar 2012 | #29 | |
| butterfly77 | Mar 2012 | #30 |
Response to underpants (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:07 PM
MADem (86,125 posts)
1. I always thought "goons" was an old-school term for "thugs"
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...and I haven't heard that word since the late fifties, early sixties!
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Response to MADem (Reply #1)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:11 PM
valerief (35,681 posts)
6. It is. Zimmerman thinks we're as stupid as he is. nt
Response to valerief (Reply #6)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:18 PM
MADem (86,125 posts)
12. Yep.
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Thing is, all that might make some intrepid Jimmy Olsen or Lois Lane want to do is run around and ask people if Georgie was an habitual user of that word, or if he used that OTHER word, you know, the one that is the last syllable of the term that describes those bandit-faced furry creatures that knock over the garbage cans in some environments?
Twisted explanations almost never cut it! He doesn't look like he's buying it, either! |
Response to MADem (Reply #1)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:24 PM
pokerfan (25,443 posts)
17. I've only heard it in the context of hockey
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Enforcer is an unofficial role in ice hockey. The term is sometimes used synonymously with "fighter", "tough guy", or "goon". An enforcer's job is to deter and respond to dirty or violent play by the opposition. When such play occurs, the enforcer is expected to respond aggressively, by fighting or checking the offender. Enforcers are expected to react particularly harshly to violence against star players or goalies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enforcer_%28ice_hockey%29 I'm not buying this latest spin. |
Response to pokerfan (Reply #17)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:33 PM
Mariana (2,366 posts)
19. Me too. However, I HAVE heard the other term used
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by racist assholes. Some people seem to think that term is obsolete and is no longer used when referring to people with dark skin. That is not true.
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Response to pokerfan (Reply #17)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:36 PM
MADem (86,125 posts)
20. I am not buying it either.
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And really, why would anyone call 911 and mutter a "term of endearment" about the person one is pursuing to the 911 operator, right before they shot the person?
"Yeah I'm following this 'just adorable little muffin-faced sweetheart'..." BOOM! |
Response to underpants (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:08 PM
CakeGrrl (9,034 posts)
2. Twisting and spinning to get a racist profiling murderer off the hook
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Too bad there are so many 911 calls that illustrate his bias.
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Response to underpants (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:11 PM
Quixote1818 (16,565 posts)
4. I don't think anyone in their right mind bought that in the slightest.
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Talk about absurd! I about threw up on that one.
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Response to underpants (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:11 PM
Ruby the Liberal (23,509 posts)
5. Someone needs to alert Hallmark
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They are apparently missing out on the all important "Fucking goon" sentiment.
Maybe someone can pick a day in, say, August or some other low-card-sending-month to celebrate this term of endearment in a more formal manner. |
Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #5)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:14 PM
K Gardner (14,805 posts)
7. +10 DUZY.... ROFL !!! n/t
Response to K Gardner (Reply #7)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:01 PM
Quixote1818 (16,565 posts)
23. I second that! nt
Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #5)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:15 PM
K Gardner (14,805 posts)
8. I know whenever I want my kids to know how much I love them, I
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make sure and say: "You know I love you, you fucking goon."
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Response to K Gardner (Reply #8)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:18 PM
Ruby the Liberal (23,509 posts)
13. It will be ever so much more special if you hold out
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for Fucking Goon Day. That way, they will know you really, really mean it.
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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #5)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:18 PM
valerief (35,681 posts)
11. You haven't seen the new goon birthday card?
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Another year has passed.
It's time to sing that tune. Happy birthday to you, My friend, my pal, my goon. |
Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #5)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:19 PM
MADem (86,125 posts)
15. I agree--DUzy! nt
Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #5)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 05:06 PM
onethatcares (6,639 posts)
31. can I take that as my floating holiday?
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or not?
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Response to underpants (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:17 PM
gort (610 posts)
9. Works for me. I also believed Rick Santorum when he said
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he meant to say "Blah"-people.
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Response to underpants (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:17 PM
socialist_n_TN (8,337 posts)
10. A term of endearment huh?..........
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Even giving him this phrase instead of the more racially charged one, WHY would he use a "term of endearment" for someone he obviously thought was an "asshole who always gets away with it"? Or whatever the following phrase was. Not only is it a CYA move, it doesn't even make sense. At least not as a "term of endearment".
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Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #10)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:22 PM
arcane1 (19,983 posts)
16. Yes, exactly who was he endearing with this term?
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Trayvon? The dispatcher?
This is one of the most pitiful defenses I've seen in quite some time, and actually serves to further convince me that he did in fact say "coons" |
Response to underpants (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:18 PM
Old and In the Way (36,257 posts)
14. I suppose "these assholes" is also a term of endearment, too?
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Zimmerman used dehumanizing, racist language in his 911 tapes. It really matters not if it were coons/goons. He's still a racist. I'm betting there are other "terms of endearment" that Zimmerman has documented. I want to know what his online name was and where he posted. I sure hope they can locate his digital life because I'll bet this guy had lots of insight to share about blacks.
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Response to underpants (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:29 PM
SomethingFishy (2,065 posts)
18. "Goons" and "Bleh People"...
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Yeah.
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Response to underpants (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:37 PM
Mariana (2,366 posts)
21. Interesting that he didn't go for the "fucking punks" interpretation.
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Since lots of people seem to hear that on the tape, and while it's an insult, it's not racial. He MUST have said "coons".
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Response to underpants (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:42 PM
obxhead (7,154 posts)
22. To me this just comes across that it is in fact on the tapes
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and that "fucking coons" is exactly what he said.
Hopefully the racist asshole Zimmermann will be arrested soon. |
Response to underpants (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:10 PM
ljm2002 (7,301 posts)
24. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that "goons" can be a term of endearment...
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...now please explain how the term "fucking goons" is still a term of endearment??? Especially when it is uttered seconds before fatally shooting the person in question???
Puhleeze. This person is a fucking goon. And by that, I do not mean a term of endearment! |
Response to ljm2002 (Reply #24)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:47 PM
arcane1 (19,983 posts)
28. He only followed Trayvon to express his endearment
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He just wanted to give him a hug and was unjustly attacked for it.
It all makes sense now |
Response to underpants (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:16 PM
KamaAina (45,246 posts)
25. So it's not another word for "blaaaaah people"?
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Response to underpants (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:22 PM
niyad (24,201 posts)
26. the last definition is one I had not heard before, but nowhere do I see anything as a term of "
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endearment"
goon Example Sentences Origin goon Show IPA noun 1. Informal . a hired hoodlum or thug. 2. Slang . a. a stupid, foolish, or awkward person. b. a roughneck. Origin: 1920–25; shortened from dial. gooney, variant of obsolete gony a simpleton (< ?); influenced by the comic-strip character Alice the Goon in the series Thimble Theatre by E. C. Segar (1894–1938), American cartoonist Dictionary.com Unabridged Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2012. Cite This Source | Link To goon Example Sentences Here was this guy who was the biggest goon alive, and he was so kind. Anybody who is not in on the goon conspiracy knows what he's about. The regime arrested many protest leaders and sent in plain-clothes goon squads to attack the demonstrators. EXPAND Explore the Visual Thesaurus » Related Words for : goon clod, gawk, lout, lubber, lummox View more related words » Collins World English Dictionary goon 1 (ɡuːn) — n 1. a stupid or deliberately foolish person 2. informal ( US ) a thug hired to commit acts of violence or intimidation, esp in an industrial dispute goon 2 — n informal ( Austral ) cheap wine packaged in casks or boxed (I have heard of cheap wine being called "plonk", but this is a new one to me) Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 10th Edition 2009 © William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd. 1979, 1986 © HarperCollins Publishers 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009 http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/goon?s=t Cite This Source |
Response to underpants (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:24 PM
yardwork (37,076 posts)
27. And Santorum said "blah" people.
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It would appear that Zimmerman's friend is conceding that he used a racist slur.
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Response to underpants (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:09 PM
Oilwellian (9,281 posts)
29. Someone on DU enhanced the audio of the word in question
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It was clearly a hard "C" sound. Can't find the link now.
I'm sure the professional software available to enhance every word captured by the 911 calls will answer a lot of our questions. |
Response to underpants (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:17 PM
butterfly77 (16,765 posts)
30. How long did it take..
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for them to think that up..first word rhymes with?????
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