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kpete

(72,895 posts)
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:54 PM Mar 2014

Liar, Liar: TPM Catches Drudge With His Pants Down



There's just one problem: Americans don't pay a penalty for not having health insurance until they file their 2014 taxes -- in 2015. So either Drudge is lying or he paid a huge penalty a year earlier than he needed to.

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Liar, Liar: TPM Catches Drudge With His Pants Down (Original Post) kpete Mar 2014 OP
Terrible imagery tkmorris Mar 2014 #1
The surprise would be if they caught Drudge with his pants up. lob1 Mar 2014 #2
Were there eggs involved? KamaAina Mar 2014 #3
egg? kpete Mar 2014 #9
I don't get it, either KamaAina Mar 2014 #10
It's a keeper. jsr Mar 2014 #4
Licer, licer, pants on icer! OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #5
matt Drudge doesn't have health insurance? JaneyVee Mar 2014 #6
Drudge is reported to be worth over $100,000,000. Why should he have health insurance? n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2014 #15
I'm calling it a derpity tax. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author pa28 Mar 2014 #8
This was a very stupid lie by Drudge Gothmog Mar 2014 #11
Typical Republican spending habits. Spend a bunch of money on nothing, then lie about it. nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #12
Drudge is such Lair and obviously hates Obamacare as much as Cha Mar 2014 #13
This is incorrect. Businesses (and individuals) must pay estimated taxes at least quarterly. PoliticAverse Mar 2014 #14
The penalty only applies for businesses with more than 50 employees. randome Mar 2014 #16
Is he referring to the business penalty or the individual one (which is in effect now)? n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2014 #17
In one of his Tweets, he mentioned the penalty that small businesses pay. randome Mar 2014 #18
In his tweet he says "Ministry of Love calls it the 'Individual Shared Responsibility Payment'" PoliticAverse Mar 2014 #20
He is saying he owes the individual penalty joeglow3 Mar 2014 #23
His Tweets sound more and more unhinged. randome Mar 2014 #19
what, obamacare doesn't cover chaimphaigne bruches?!1 UTUSN Mar 2014 #21
Doesn't matter that he lied Mariana Mar 2014 #22
Sadly, he is correct joeglow3 Mar 2014 #24
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
3. Were there eggs involved?
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:58 PM
Mar 2014

Word on the street is that Drudge has an egg fetish. I totally did not know that was a thing. I can't even imagine how it works.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
15. Drudge is reported to be worth over $100,000,000. Why should he have health insurance? n/t
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 08:10 PM
Mar 2014

Response to kpete (Original post)

Gothmog

(155,434 posts)
11. This was a very stupid lie by Drudge
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 05:15 PM
Mar 2014

Either Drudge has an idiot doing his taxes or he is lying

okaawhatever

(9,548 posts)
12. Typical Republican spending habits. Spend a bunch of money on nothing, then lie about it. nt
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 06:44 PM
Mar 2014

Cha

(305,835 posts)
13. Drudge is such Lair and obviously hates Obamacare as much as
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 06:56 PM
Mar 2014

all the other assholes who lie about it.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
14. This is incorrect. Businesses (and individuals) must pay estimated taxes at least quarterly.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 08:08 PM
Mar 2014

If you haven't paid most of your 2014 taxes already before the April 2015 filing deadline you owe additional penalties.

See:
http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Estimated-Taxes
http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc306.html
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040es.pdf

Since it is nearing the end of March, Drudge likely is referring to paying his first quarter's estimated tax.

Since Drudge apparently knows he won't be purchasing the required health insurance at all during the year he
knows what his penalty will be and can add 1/4th of it to his first estimated tax payment to avoid additional penalties.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. The penalty only applies for businesses with more than 50 employees.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 08:12 PM
Mar 2014

And even then the penalty isn't payable until 2016. So Drudge is a flat-out liar. And the more pissy Tweets he makes on the subject, the worse he looks.

He may be heading for a full-blown meltdown.
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PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
17. Is he referring to the business penalty or the individual one (which is in effect now)? n/t
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 08:14 PM
Mar 2014
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
18. In one of his Tweets, he mentioned the penalty that small businesses pay.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 08:16 PM
Mar 2014

Either way, he clearly lied when he said he paid a penalty unless he has more than 100 employees, which TPM and Huffington Post doubt.
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PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
20. In his tweet he says "Ministry of Love calls it the 'Individual Shared Responsibility Payment'"
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 08:35 PM
Mar 2014

implying it is the individual penalty now in effect not the business one that Obama delayed.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
23. He is saying he owes the individual penalty
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:46 PM
Mar 2014

Most likely, his business is a flow through entity. As such, all income of the business is included on his individual return. As such, he has no automatic withholding like most employed individuals do on their w-2. Thus, he is required to file quarterly estimated tax payments. Even the IRS recommends individuals include the penalty as "other taxes" on the 1040-ES. Sadly, he is correct. The idiot who mans the White House twitter feed fucked up.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
19. His Tweets sound more and more unhinged.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 08:20 PM
Mar 2014

Unless that's the way he normally communicates. I confess to not being conversant with his mannerisms. But it's nice to see him caught lying to the world like this.

The longer he lies about this, the better for the world in general.
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Mariana

(15,190 posts)
22. Doesn't matter that he lied
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 08:48 PM
Mar 2014

or that his lie was so easy to disprove. All his fans will believe it anyway. He wins.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
24. Sadly, he is correct
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:48 PM
Mar 2014

Whoever mans the White House twitter feed:

See page two of the instructions for Form 1040-ES (bottom of first column):

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040es.pdf

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