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Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 09:53 PM Apr 2014

NYT: Missing From Christie’s Proof-of-Innocence Claim: The Proof

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/02/nyregion/missing-from-christies-proof-of-innocence-claim-the-proof.html

Missing From Christie’s Proof-of-Innocence Claim: The Proof

As of Tuesday afternoon, Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey was refusing to make public the interviews that, his lawyer asserts, “vindicate” the governor in the traffic-jam-as-punishment scheme run by his aides.

Well, why not just show the goods?

The lawyer, Randy Mastro of Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher, released a statement Tuesday, saying, “The governor’s office is fully cooperating with the U.S. Attorney’s Office’s investigation, and in that regard, has not publicly released accounts of interviews conducted in connection with the Gibson Dunn investigation.”

Note, carefully, the phrase “in that regard.”


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NYT: Missing From Christie’s Proof-of-Innocence Claim: The Proof (Original Post) Voice for Peace Apr 2014 OP
I have a question about this part: Voice for Peace Apr 2014 #1
That's an interesting question starroute Apr 2014 #3
How do you get to the bottom of a scandal onecaliberal Apr 2014 #2
You don't get there if that isn't your goal. Case in point... jtuck004 Apr 2014 #5
Good point onecaliberal Apr 2014 #6
Let's see, with Christie's 2016 chances dead, that opens the door for Jeb. Now who would be rhett o rick Apr 2014 #4
I've read in different places onecaliberal Apr 2014 #7
 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
1. I have a question about this part:
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 10:06 PM
Apr 2014
Mr. Mastro made sweeping claims about his investigation, and barely acknowledged its limitations. He had no subpoena power. The four people at the center of the scandal did not give him statements or provide documents, and one of them, it emerged, had said that he told the governor about the traffic scandal while it was happening. (The governor said he didn’t remember hearing about it.)


(a) Did Wildstein say that he told Christie about it?

Or (b) did he say they had talked about it that day -- and he therefore
knew the Gov was lying?

Saying Wildstein told Christie that day makes it sound as if
Christie didn't know anything beforehand.

But as I recall, it was first reported as (b). Anybody know?

starroute

(12,977 posts)
3. That's an interesting question
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 10:36 PM
Apr 2014

There appear to be two sources for the claim. One is a letter from Wildstein's lawyer saying that "evidence exists ...tying Mr. Christie to having knowledge of the lane closures, during the period when the lanes were closed, contrary to what the Governor stated publicly in a two-hour press conference." (http://www.northjersey.com/news/gwb-scandal-christie-knew-of-bridge-lane-closures-ex-port-authority-official-says-1.676341)

The other is the study by Crhistie's hand-picked lawfirm, which "surmises" that this letter was referring to Wildstein's having told Christie's press secretary two months later that he'd "mentioned" the lane closures to Christie during the September 11 commemoration ceremonies.

The study concludes that because of the hectic circumstances, it's plausible that Christie is telling the truth when he says he has no memory of such an exchange. But to me it suggests just the opposite -- that Wildstein wouldn't have brought the matter up in the middle of a ceremony except as confirmation of something Christie already knew was in the works.

There's also Wildstein's lawyer's use of the phrase "evidence exists." Lawyers choose their very carefully, and I doubt this one would have said "evidence" unless there was actual physical proof of the claim.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/03/27/wildstein-mentioned-fort-lee-traffic-problems-to-christie-at-sept-11-memorial-event-lawyers-report-says/6956889/

The report issued by Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP surmises that the assertion by Wildstein’s lawyer, Alan Zegas, in a January letter to the Port Authority that “evidence exists” that Christie was aware of the closures is about a Sept. 11 memorial event at which Christie, Wildstein and other authority officials were together on the third day of the controversial lane closures in Fort Lee. The report says Christie doesn’t recall the exchange and that there is no evidence it took place.

Wildstein mentioned the conversation to Michael Drewniak, Christie’s press secretary, in a dinner in New Brunswick on Dec. 4, two nights before he was forced to resign from the Port Authority, Drewniak told the Gibson Dunn investigators.

“It will apparently be Wildstein’s contention—as he alleged in early December 2013 to Drewniak—that he mentioned the traffic issue to the governor on that occasion,” says a footnote in the report. “Whatever brief exchange they had occurred in a public setting where they were surrounded by many, including other Port Authority officials, the governor’s wife, and a steady stream of spectators requesting photographs and handshakes with the governor. Not surprisingly, the governor has no recollection of such an exchange.”

The report also says, “There is, however, no evidence we have seen that the governor and Wildstein actually had any substantive discussion of the Fort Lee lane realignment at that public event.”

onecaliberal

(32,786 posts)
2. How do you get to the bottom of a scandal
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 10:23 PM
Apr 2014

when you fail to interview the people at the center of it? Do Christie and Mastro really think sane people capable of critical thought believe anything either of them say.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
5. You don't get there if that isn't your goal. Case in point...
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 12:47 AM
Apr 2014

You could interview the people at the center and still leave the crooks in charge.

Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission

Sometimes it's just showtime.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
4. Let's see, with Christie's 2016 chances dead, that opens the door for Jeb. Now who would be
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 11:00 PM
Apr 2014

working for that end? KKKarl Rove. I bet we can thank KKKarl for Christie's demise.

onecaliberal

(32,786 posts)
7. I've read in different places
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 10:44 AM
Apr 2014

That is was bush cronies who are trying to bring Christie down for the sole purpose of elevating Jeb's chances in 2016.

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