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http://www.politicususa.com/2014/04/09/msnbc-forbids-ed-schultz-dem-fundraiser-joe-scarborough-raise-gop-cash.htmlMSNBC Forbids Ed Schultz From Dem Fundraiser But Allows Joe Scarborough to Raise GOP Cash
By: Jason Easley
Wednesday, April, 9th, 2014, 3:47 pm
The MSNBC double standard is on full display as the network made Ed Schultz cancel an appearance at a Democratic fundraiser, but is allowing Joe Scarborough to speak at a Republican cash grab.
In December of 2013, Ed Schultz was scheduled to be the keynote speaker at a fundraiser for the Broward Democratic Partys big Unity Dinner in Florida, but he was forced by his bosses at MSNBC to cancel the appearance and claim that he didnt know it was a fundraiser.
However, Republican Joe Scarborough is being allowed to deliver a keynote address for Cheshire County Republican Lincoln Day Dinner in New Hampshire in May. The fundraiser that Scarborough is appearing at costs $50 per person, and all of the money goes to the Republican Party.
MSNBC has turned down repeated requests for comment from media reporters who want to know why Scarborough is allowed to appear at a fundraiser, but Schultz was not.
It is this kind of a double standard and poor leadership that has led to many viewers distrusting MSNBC. There is a reason why MSNBC is losing viewers and has such a negative perception among cable news viewers.
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MSNBCs behavior is not matching their public image, and it leaves viewers to wonder if the networks liberal tilt is all a marketing scam.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Sadly, I am not surprised.
-Laelth
MindMover
(5,016 posts)""
Cha
(297,772 posts)a$$holes.
Yeah, the good news is.. it's not stealth anymore.
thanks MindMover
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)on a leash. Her radio shows used to have much more bite to them. She seems like a different host now.
LittleGirl
(8,291 posts)Too much of "The GOP did This" and I'm sick of that crap. I want to hear news and you just can't get that on Msnbc.
840high
(17,196 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)krawhitham
(4,647 posts)nikto
(3,284 posts)No question about it.
How long will she continue there?
The money is nice, but...
Abby Martin is eating her lunch, and dinner too.
Daily.
whathehell
(29,096 posts)I don't think she's doing it "just for the money" as you seem to imply.
Even a "leashed" liberal voice can be better than none.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)doing the best she can as a progressive from a platform that has imposed limits. I just don't enjoy her show like I enjoyed her radio shows.
whathehell
(29,096 posts)I do like her a lot, though, so I do watch her show.
nikto
(3,284 posts)But she's making more $$ now then she ever has and possibly ever will again.
I do not diminish what that means to a young professional, regardless of polltical beliefs.
I expect her to continue as long as she feels she can get some kind of message through, or until she pisses-off
Comcast with some too-honest reporting on some sensitive area.
But she is forced to "dance" with her benefactors (Comcast), just as Abby Martin is "dancing"
with RT.
Supersedeas
(20,630 posts)dorkulon
(5,116 posts)and reading me those fucking James Thurber stories as if I were nine years old. Now that's news!
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)Try again.
dorkulon
(5,116 posts)I think I pretty much nailed it.
TeamPooka
(24,262 posts)#ignored
dorkulon
(5,116 posts)Oh yeah, I don't care.
brooklynite
(94,757 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Atman
(31,464 posts)You really need an answer to this? Just look at any FB post calling out Fox...the first thing they say is "But...but...but...MSNBC!!!!!!"
Total marketing. Period. MSNBC is just another arm of the corporate media hydra.
"...the networks liberal tilt is all a marketing scam."
MSNBC is liberal. all the evening shows are and the day shows are besides morning Joe. I just wish they would remove that asshole and get a different morning show. I cant even watch or listen in the radio until he is off.
Atman
(31,464 posts)In what universe? You need to look at MSNBC's ratings, and who owns 'em. MSNBC is basically a loss leader. It's like Walmart selling one pair of shoes made in America just so they can say they have a commitment to American manufacturing.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)to splurge on was our DISH Connection! I agreed even though the cost has pinched our budget, and he's never been anything but a blue collar worker, so PC's and other products are difficult for him. He does watch MSNBC and it's helped him stay more informed than many other people we know. Some programs such as "Joey Scar" A. Mitchell, C. Todd and the like are off his list, thankfully. I'm more inclined to watch FSTV and alternative channels.
So since he's never been one to drink & run around and always held a job, we pay a lot for DISH! He has access to a lot of sports and I get my perks too! It's such a shame that people have to pay so much to watch many programs that report more truthful and comprehensive information.
BUT, it does seem that MSNBC has been less supportive of Ed Schultz, recall they canceled him, and still let those like "Joey Scar" do WHATEVER! Such an over bloated piece of crap! I certainly have my issues with MSNBC AND DISH, but what's one to do if they find the tech world overly complicated?
America has fallen too far behind the rest of the world on so many levels and to me the STUPIDITY I see is astounding. What's that they say about empires lasting only 200 years or so?? IMO, we're on a downward spiral!
Still, is there not some way to send a loud message to MSNBC about their hypocrisy?
Atman
(31,464 posts)Nothing like the spoke-model crap-fest we get here. When we traveled to Thailand, CNN International was our English-speaking link to what was going on, and I was shocked at how different it is. Then anchors aren't fashion models, and they reported NEWS, not endless stories about celebrities or kidnapped rich kids. As has been shown many times on DU, Time Magazine also seems to do a stupid fluff cover for their U.S. edition while covering hard-hitting world events in the rest of the world. Americans don't realize how badly we're being scammed.
George II
(67,782 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)'However, Republican Joe Scarborough is being allowed to deliver a keynote address for Cheshire County Republican Lincoln Day Dinner in New Hampshire in May. The fundraiser that Scarborough is appearing at costs $50 per person, and all of the money goes to the Republican Party.'
NRaleighLiberal
(60,024 posts)haven't watched a news show on TV in at least 5 years. Got rid of cable....one of the best things we ever did.
tazkcmo
(7,303 posts)except to use as a monitor for my computer and I'm much happier for it. There's very little on TV that I care for and the Intertubes are a better source for pure entertainment value.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)I simply cannot stomach cable news or TV news in general.
Even local news during a weather event is more hype than information. I can check the radar on my computer, just why would I need them at all.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)sakabatou
(42,180 posts)It's not the same though without Keith.
RoverSuswade
(641 posts)The unsung hero of liberal voice on cable.
sakabatou
(42,180 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)marble falls
(57,333 posts)so he can get back into news. Kieth Olbermann is a good sports guy but I sure do miss him in the news studio. How about against O'Reilly?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)titanicdave
(429 posts)Comcast came into the ownership of MSNBC, there has been some very noticeable changes and they are not good changes......Comcast is just another greedy corporation and they are always sending me notices to switch to their service which I promptly shred...
blm
(113,102 posts).
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Nt
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)lately she only parrots the headlines and democratic memes. this must be hell for her even though she probably gets a decent check.
and, who the heck is rowan?
babylonsister
(171,099 posts)I miss her b/c of work most days; will have to watch when able.
Rowan Farrow? I do not care for him; turn music on when he's on.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)for example, on the issue of equal pay she had a woman who opposes equal pay and believes the data reflecting women's pay is flawed (because women don't have the same jobs as men who are physicists and engineers, ha!) and another woman who supported the data and pointed out the stats for women of color.
my disappointment was that it was a brief presentation and i honestly cannot even remember what joy said except to nod her head to the second woman's comments and shush the anti woman for interrupting the pro woman.
catbyte
(34,472 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 9, 2014, 11:37 PM - Edit history (3)
Check who they've kept and who they've let go. All the major networks are owned by extremely conservative billionaires who insist the script fit their agenda.
Even the pundits that people get so exercised about, often fail to get to core economic and social issues, or gloss them over. And they all must play the broken record of false equivalency, or else.
Because if they questioned the clothes their emperor wears, they're out in a heartbeat. The network bosses do not allow their 'liberal' stable to compete with GOP and libertarian views directly, or argue policy and how many people will die or be hurt by them. Never.
They generally only allow tamed liberals, to delve into the personalities of obnoxious conservatives, not the hideous and inhumane aspects of what they are doing to the American people daily. That is not going to be allowed. It's a diversion.
An example is the story of the philandering GOP official who kissed another woman. DU also got a happy off of that one. The media will go with the jaded personal story, but ignore the bigger story behind the outing of a man who did this months ago. He's now come out and supported Medicare expansion in LA against the GOP machine there. The news will not cover his defection and the real reason for his character assassination politically.
Likewise the latest blurb of Al Sharpton's alleged time as an informant for the FBI, which he denies. Much air time will go to his denial, the days of an event that has no political relevance, in order to dispose of the real news that Sharpton spoke of this week, the upcoming NAN conference, where Obama will speak. Sharpton characterizes the remarks and direction he expects Obama to make, as:
This is the first civil rights group hes addressing this year, and before we go into midterm election season, the Rev said. This is also going to be the first time he makes a major address in a city where de Blasio has made income inequality a big issue. A lot of things will be coming to a head racial politics is not defined as it was 20 years ago. In that reshuffling, the presidents speech is going to have very serious ramifications.
That's from an OP about an article by the NY Magazine, which harps on every word they can pen to denigrate Sharpton to overshadow what could be a substantial report of liberal and progressive ideas designed to deal with income inequality and equality:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4801112
If one of their pundits step out of line, that is what happens, or like Schultz, they will find their time slot changed, or like Keith, be out the door. They went after him personally, but the real issue was his attacks on the right that were getting liberals feeling strong. O'Reilly has always done much worse things and there is no punishment. This is what happens when the conservatives own and control the messengers.
MSNBC gives airtime to even well-discredited conservatives on the so-called 'liberal' shows to oppose ideas the 'liberal' pundit harps on. They have to 'make nice' with despicable criminal GOP types, giving them validation.
You can see the self-censoring that takes place with other pundits, they know they can only go so far. They are tantalizing, but not effective in giving liberals the talking points they need to counter the conservatives, and if they get very popular, they're gone.
The owners have no cause to reply to any liberal complaint that their actions generate. It's because know they have no competition. You either watch their watered down pundits or do without the comforting illusion that they are getting useful information on current affairs.
Just sayin'
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)ctsnowman
(1,903 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)I remember that a Republican ran in the primaries on expanding Medicaid, and the entire GOP establishment came down on him, but he won anyway. And now this...
Zorra
(27,670 posts)krawhitham
(4,647 posts)Cha
(297,772 posts)Blatantly Ugly Hypocrisy?
thanks for this, babylonsistah~
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)viewers. And, look at who the parent company is, Comcast, not exactly a staunch liberal media outlet. It's hard to even think of Comcast as even remotely moderate. Like all the rest of the bullshit today in the US, MSNBC is in it for the money.
krawhitham
(4,647 posts)Scarborough might have told MSNBC he would not re-sign with the station unless he was allowed to fundraise
sunnystarr
(2,638 posts)because I think he wants to run for office ... either a Senate seat or the POTUS. There have been countless references by him and Mika to that effect and I don't even watch regularly or for that long a time when I do.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I tend to think it is about leverage.
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)Do Americans actually watch MSNBC? Why?
glinda
(14,807 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...and NBC to be fair, who can you trust?
- I hope no one ask where's the sarcasm tag......
K&R
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Stainless
(718 posts)is available on Direct TV and I've started watching it since Stephanie Miller came on board in January. I also like Amy Goodman and Democracy Now, Thom Hartmann and also Mike Papantonio.
MSNBC is controlled by corporate whores and the talking heads are muzzled to tow the line. The older I get the more I despise conservatism and their hateful rhetoric. I believe it will take massive civil disobedience to force the hand of Congress and the Supreme Court.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)they would turn their volume up and go to HD. Great channel!
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)actually think DISH is better. Perhaps not enough to whine about, but do wish it didn't cost so much. Eats a big hole in our income, and they're still making more money than should be allowed to.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)wait.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)How is his show any more of a news program than, say, Rachel Maddow? The guests and bias is different but the format and type of content isn't that much different.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Old Codger
(4,205 posts)I pretty much stopped watching them when I was bombarded by anti democratic ads pushing to defund and repeal the ACA.. to much hypocrisy in almost all of television anymore, not enough worth watching to bother , barely worth the cost of the electricity it takes to run the TV
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)nikto
(3,284 posts)elias49
(4,259 posts)I'm on the east coast....never heard of RT but it sounds promising.
nikto
(3,284 posts)RT America (the one on cable tv in US)
https://www.youtube.com/user/RTAmerica
Abby Martin:
https://www.youtube.com/user/breakingtheset
Thom Hartmann:
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBigPictureRT
RT (global)
https://www.youtube.com/user/RussiaToday
brooklynite
(94,757 posts)nikto
(3,284 posts)It has to be filtered by the sophistication/wide-perspective of the person watching it.
For certain stories (US Corporate & Bank malfeasance and many other issues) it's invaluable.
Gay-bashing in Russia? Objective reporting on Putin? Not so much.
No more biased than the US networks, and much less than Fox.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)That is why we no longer have Donahue, Olbermann, Ratigan, Bashir or Cenk.
Ed, Rachel, Reverend Al, O'Donnell, Hayes and the rest are strictly limited in their rhetoric. One wrong word and they are toast.
If you don't recognize that you don't recognize much.
CrispyQ
(36,533 posts)I didn't realize the list was so long.
And Limbaugh can say the most revolting things & gets renewed year after year after year.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)that loudmouth Righties® can get away with a more insulting rhetoric and tone on TV and radio. Liberals must apologize for the slightest infraction. This is clear.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)We should recognize the damage the right wing media coup has done.
Right wing media is the source of MOST of our problems.
We must acknowledge, not only is the media not liberal, but it is not in the least bit liberal.
Democracy cannot survive under these circumstances.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)and then Seymour Hersh
LOL...... in your dreams.....
ctsnowman
(1,903 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)RayStar
(417 posts)joe Scarborough had the gall to bring up that the Clinton's were accused of killing a human being/I think it was plural on this morning's show. I thought how dare you with a dead intern in your office.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... I fired MSNBC and the rest of the corporate Propaganda Machine years ago.
None of them is worth one second of my time. None.
rtracey
(2,062 posts)MSNBC has become the hacks in the journalism on cable arena. The coroporate dogs have shit all over this network. Once they sent Obermann, Bashir and Ed Schultz away, they began to completely crumble. I dont even bother too switch to this channel. Just seeing the double standard of this Schultz/Scarborough situation, must have the network head address this situation. If Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O'Donnell have ANY journalistic integrity, they would cancel their contracts and apply to Al Jazeera America.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)Those channels are alternative channels NOT offered unless you pay a lot more. So, even though they're on a leash their message would be diminished more.
AND, as I stated in another post... there are millions of people who find all the new technology very hard to keep up with. My grandson tells me I know just enough about PC's, etc. to be dangerous! Can't argue with him, too many changes and updated products for so many of us "boomers!"
Rex
(65,616 posts)their agenda. That is one reason I won't watch corporate news.
classykaren
(769 posts)12AngryBorneoWildmen
(536 posts)The 'Liberal' Circular Firing Squad Assoc.? What a bunch of pant wetting phonies. Rachel's documentaries alone should shut you all up. And Chris Hayes as well. Christie's crap would never have risen to national attention without RM's research. And Duke Energy in N.C. Her voter suppression pieces are invaluable and again Hayes is quite the muckraker. Sure Hartmann's good, but sometimes you have to sell the steak and the sizzle. RM and CH are both so damn well-spoken and articulate with flair and fun, that it's just mesmerizing. The only and biggest leash that I see, is the minimal commentary on the merger of Comcast and T-W. I wish they at least would speak up off camera.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)MSNBC is going downhill. Kick out and punished Keith Olberman severely for doing the same thing but go Joe. What is MSNBC scared of
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)the token presence on MSNBC looks more precarious in spite of whatever ratings they're getting.
Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)ever apologized to the DNC? NEVER!! Does anyone not think there have been thousands of instances when he should have?
But MSNBC's President Phil Griffin did apologized to the RNC for MSNBCs official Twitter feed suggested rightwing Republicans are racists when they went with an Over-the-Top reaction to a mixed race Cheerios commercial. Griffin apologized after Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus called for a party-wide boycott of the network, after the right-wing went nuts over the commercial.
Have never watched the sell-out MSNBC since then. It's all a charade.
CrispyQ
(36,533 posts)It's a total marketing scam. Martin Bashir should not have been fired.
I don't get my news from TV anymore at all.
PeteSelman
(1,508 posts)It's ALL a marketing scam. Politics in general are just a scam. Everything about the country is a bad joke anymore.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Unfortunately a lot of Democrats have bought it.