Holder Goes Off-Script To Blast Gohmert: What AG 'Ever Had To Deal With That?'

[DonViejo]

CATHERINE THOMPSON – APRIL 10, 2014, 7:37 AM EDT

Attorney General Eric Holder briefly went off-script Wednesday in an appearance at the National Action Network convention in New York City to land another blow in his ongoing feud with Rep. Louis Gohmert (R-TX).

“I'm pleased to note that the last five years have been defined by significant strides and by lasting reforms even in the face, even in the face of unprecedented, unwarranted, ugly and divisive adversity," he said, according to video recorded by Mediaite.

"And if you don’t believe that, you look at the way -- and forget about me, forget about me -- you look at the way the attorney general of the United States was treated yesterday by a House committee," he continued. "That had nothing to do with me. Forget that. What attorney general has ever had to deal with that kind of treatment? What president has ever had to deal with that kind of treatment?”

Those comments do not appear in Holder's prepared remarks for the event.

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[WhiteTara]

1. True that. nt

[cui bono]

2. "Good luck with your asparagus" wasn't in his prepared remarks either, I'm sure.

Good! This should have been happening from day 1. Tell it like it is. Call them out. Call them crazy. Do it.

[txwhitedove]

5. Agree with you 100%, no more meek, no more turn the other cheek because it only

encourages the bullies.

[tridim]

3. Some popular DU'ers have been treating the President and AG with the same level of disrespect.

Let's ask them.

What attorney general has ever had to deal with that kind of treatment?

What president has ever had to deal with that kind of treatment?”

I know the answer, but I'd like to hear it from you.

[beerandjesus]

7. So if you disagree with the President, you're Louie Gohmert?

Never mind, I'll just keep repeating to myself:

"Not all BOGgers are assholes, not all BOGgers are assholes....."



***************

Edit: To be absolutely clear, I bear the BOG no ill will. I disagree with a lot of that group a lot of the time, but I often enjoy their comments anyway, and sometimes they make me reconsider my opinions. But a couple of you, man... you seem to hate Democrats even more than Republicans. All Democrats who aren't Barack Obama, that is.

[Katashi_itto]

8. +1000

[BumRushDaShow]

9. Why does your disagreement with the poster result in name-calling as a counter-argument?

They say - "If you throw a rock into a pig pen, the one that squeals is the one that got hit."

[beerandjesus]

10. Because there's this principle of standing up for those who are unjustly attacked.

In fact, it's a principle that's pretty widely held among Democrats.


And I am sick to fucking death of a few posters on here who go around slinging shit at any Democrat who isn't 100% in lock-step with the President. As I said in my post, this is not most of the BOG. It is a few specific posters, I'd say probably less than 5, definitely less than 10.

The poster I attacked, as is his wont, compared Democrats who have sincere disagreements with the President to Louie Gohmert. I, at least, had the decency to reply by calling him an asshole, not by calling him Michele Bachmann.

It's beyond me why so many on here have so much tolerance for open, naked slander. If you think it's just peachy to casually dismiss Democrats as tea-baggers, well, I sincerely hope you'll reconsider.



Edit: I suppose it might have been more mature of me to just use the "alert" button, but I really don't like that thing.

[cheapdate]

15. Amen, my friend.

Last edited Sat Apr 12, 2014, 01:00 AM - Edit history (1)

I've taken to adding a special note for "alerters" at the end of some, but not all, of my posts. Those would be posts where I have earlier proposed an argument supportive of, or questioned opposition to a policy of the Obama administration, and then received hysterical and combative responses from the nut gallery, and then replied to aforesaid hysterical and combative responses with the same measure of respect and consideration shown toward me.

I'll ask potential alterters to please consider the preceding posts.

It's a regrettable situation but there you are.

[840high]

16. ...^ that

[Android3.14]

19. What you said

At least we try to face the problem of a compromised party.

[okaawhatever]

38. She said "SOME popular DUers" not all, and she was referring to those whose treatment

of the President is similar to Gohmert's treatment of Holder. If you don't treat the President the way Gohmert treats Holder, or worse, this wasn't about you.

[JI7]

21. it's the hatred and way it's done, it's not disagreement at all , just look at when Holder had some

medical issue and people posted a bunch of personal attacks against him.

[Cha]

30. hey beerandjesus.. Member of the Barack Obama Group here.. tridim

is absolutely right.. And, your throwing in the strawman Louie Gohmert in an attempt to divert from what he's saying is hogwash.

tridim was referring to the "popular poster" whose OP was so vulgarly insulting to the President and was subsequently used by rw sites as an example of "the President Losing DU" .. an OP so disgustingly vile the poster has since deleted it.. Why? Because he finally woke the fuck up? I have no idea.

But, yeah, we were standing up for the President.

"Not all BOGgers are assholes, not all BOGgers are assholes....." You keep mumbling that to yourself.. but, it's not members of the Barack Obama Group that are the "assholes".

"..All Democrats who aren't Barack Obama, that is.".. wow.. what an ignorant statement.. You really don't have a clue about those who support President Obama but you're knee jerk ready to throw out the insults.

That is really so nice that you "bear the BOG no ill will".. feeling so much better now.

[beerandjesus]

33. Can you really not see the difference between the criticism leveled here and Louie Gohmert?

I mean, seriously. Do you really, honestly believe that Will's criticism is the same as Louie Gohmert's?

Either you do or you don't. Please be honest, and don't make excuses.

[beerandjesus]

36. That's what I thought.

You CAN see the difference.

Which means that tridim's remark stands as slander against Democrats--of the sort which a few of you seem to positively relish.



But since it's apparently nevertheless just peachy to go around calling Democrats Louie Gohmert, and since you two are in the business of slandering joe-schmoes who disagree with the President, I'll take the opportunity to remind both of you that there is, in fact, a major political party which is dedicated to siding with the rich and powerful against the poor and weak.


One last thing: Since you're trying to paint me as anti-BOG, I went and checked the hosts of that group. I did see one other poster in that list whom I generally find to be pretty obnoxious, but all the other names I recognized were posters whose input here I value. So as I said originally, there seem to be a couple of you on here who dedicate yourselves to making the whole group look bad. I think that's a shame, but I guess that's just the way it is.

[Eleanors38]

17. Cheapshot. nt

[Cha]

31. It's a fact.

[JI7]

22. like this, it has nothing to do with disagreement on issues

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014740402

[Cha]

32. Wow.. I just got

pissed when I read some of those replies and responded!

[joshcryer]

26. No question.

I've been pleased with Holder for the most part despite the continual trashing of him here.

[LondonReign2]

37. You're going to want to get some nice cheese

to go with that whine.

[Paladin]

4. Get 'em, AG Holder. (nt)

[madokie]

6. Spot on

[beerandjesus]

11. Good for him!

There's a part of me that hates praising him for stating the obvious....


....but the hell with it. Big kudos to the AG for calling out the teabag assholes.

[mfcorey1]

12. Bravo

[kokobell616]

13. AG Holder

needs to do the job he was appointed to do. Getting into a spitting match with republicans is not helpful to the office or this administration. Focus is what is needed going into the mid-terms. Do not let insignificant uttering's of the likes of gomer-t derail the important work the AG's office needs to accomplish.

Voting rights, Civil Rights, The right to peaceably assemble,

[Paladin]

14. Yeah, because God forbid a Repub ever experience push-back from a Democrat. (nt)

[Eleanors38]

18. Generally, I agree with you. But Gohmert's Pile needs to be slapped around.

[Cha]

28. Oh bullshite. Go get 'em AG Holder.

[JI7]

20. if Goehmert posted on DU the shit he says to HOlder he would get a lot of recs

and would be very popular among a certain crowd.

[Whisp]

23. We know that is The Truth. The piece of shit Truth. n/t

[JI7]

24. yup, like this thread shows

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014740402

[Whisp]

25. Animals. n/t

[joshcryer]

27. Wow.

Glad the majority were against the spitefulness.

[Cha]

29. Oh that fucker.. that thinks he knows shit but

doesn't have a fucking clue.

[Nye Bevan]

34. Janet Reno had to take a lot of shit IIRC (nt)

[mountain grammy]

35. I think Holder is pointing out that Gohmert is a racist..

which Gohmert is, and which we have seen over and over again, and Holder has every right to call him out, and even to mock him.
Louie Gohmert is the face of the ugly American.