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Think of the brain power represented in this one image.... (Original Post) Playinghardball Apr 2014 OP
I wonder if an assemblage of such brainpower Cirque du So-What Apr 2014 #1
Are you certain that similar or maybe greater brain power has subsequently been assembled TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #6
Unfortunately, half of our population would burn those people at the stake for witchcraft ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #9
Half our Congress, would. villager Apr 2014 #15
Would they be the same people who firmly believe every single lie ever uttered by the Extreme Right? Cal33 Apr 2014 #32
I'm not worthy! Baitball Blogger Apr 2014 #2
OK, I can see Schrodinger IDemo Apr 2014 #3
The photo actually commemorates Heisenberg's very accurate measurement of its velocity struggle4progress Apr 2014 #8
I don't know IDemo Apr 2014 #39
I know it's there demwing Apr 2014 #29
On the other hand, think of the brain power represented in THIS image... YoungDemCA Apr 2014 #4
The only brainpower in that image is in the painting on the wall. hobbit709 Apr 2014 #5
Ole' George Washington looks like he's saying: YoungDemCA Apr 2014 #7
Yes he does! passiveporcupine Apr 2014 #24
Washington's gesture:"Presenting Assholery multiplied" n/t Mira Apr 2014 #30
oh boy! time to break out the image editor and twitter! nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #10
There would be more brainpower on display if you took a picture of random people at a bowling alley TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #11
Did you Google images for "Dunces" to find that? Capt.Rocky300 Apr 2014 #12
I just lost 5 IQ points. nt awoke_in_2003 Apr 2014 #13
Where is Louie Gomhert? Helen Borg Apr 2014 #25
Simple: he got lost Nevernose Apr 2014 #45
DUzy!! MsLeopard Apr 2014 #37
ultimately what did those 28 men and one woman do hfojvt Apr 2014 #14
Are you kidding? Maedhros Apr 2014 #16
so the main thing they did was hfojvt Apr 2014 #19
I'm not understanding your intention in implying that the scientists in the picture Maedhros Apr 2014 #21
And Pasteur and Fleming didn't do anything useful either erronis Apr 2014 #22
but most people in the past did NOT die in their 30s and 40s hfojvt Apr 2014 #47
Well that data certainly settles the debate. n/t whopis01 Apr 2014 #48
No, the technicians wouldn't have found a way anyway. pnwmom Apr 2014 #28
Are you fucking kidding? NickB79 Apr 2014 #23
Yep, was thinking the same... Helen Borg Apr 2014 #27
Uhhhhhh, greiner3 Apr 2014 #33
Trollin' ain't easy. Shivering Jemmy Apr 2014 #34
Well, without them we wouldn't have the internet, for starters, so you wouldn't be posting here. N.T Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #35
Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #40
Adding to the other responses: the Global Positioning System. Jim Lane Apr 2014 #46
Yeah but ... lpbk2713 Apr 2014 #17
Early picture of Bush, Sr. beginning Mr.Bill Apr 2014 #20
Wow. Almost as much brain power as our House of Representatives! Kablooie Apr 2014 #18
And only one of them was female! passiveporcupine Apr 2014 #26
+1 SunSeeker Apr 2014 #31
Only one other woman besides Marie Curie has won the Nobel Prize in Physics FarCenter Apr 2014 #36
I would say chrisstopher Apr 2014 #38
Collectively more like 160 / log 29 = 109. FarCenter Apr 2014 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author rumdude Apr 2014 #42
It reminds me of some remarks made by President Kennedy Staph Apr 2014 #43
I just had this crazy thought - what if, at the start of the Conference, all ANY of calimary Apr 2014 #44

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
6. Are you certain that similar or maybe greater brain power has subsequently been assembled
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 02:34 PM
Apr 2014

but the output isn't so easily matched because there is less low hanging knowledge fruit now requiring greater technology and much more difficult work to build off that previous foundation?

I'm not saying that is the case but I do think it is more than possible that equal impact discoveries will take even more brains, utilizing much better tech to expand the limits of observation to move to the next levels.

We also cannot minimize the investment paradigm being different now, with less patience for investing that doesn't turn a corporate profit somehow even at the University level and that substantial funding most times will require corporate investment, which has to parlay quickly into profits soaking up the best a day brightest and forever limiting their horizons.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
9. Unfortunately, half of our population would burn those people at the stake for witchcraft
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 02:36 PM
Apr 2014

and heresy if they had their druthers.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
32. Would they be the same people who firmly believe every single lie ever uttered by the Extreme Right?
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 05:14 PM
Apr 2014
 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
7. Ole' George Washington looks like he's saying:
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 02:34 PM
Apr 2014
"Who are these assholes, and what the fuck have they done to America?"

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
14. ultimately what did those 28 men and one woman do
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 03:33 PM
Apr 2014

Did all that brain power provide any benefit to the human race?

Did they ultimately do any more good with their brains than the average firefigher does on an average Sunday?

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
16. Are you kidding?
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 03:48 PM
Apr 2014

Pretty much every single piece of medical technology - x-ray machines, EEGs, EKGs, CAT scanners, MRI scanners - relies on fundamental principles worked out by one of those present in the picture.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
19. so the main thing they did was
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 04:22 PM
Apr 2014

greatly increase medical costs?

and from the Timetables of technology, it seems that many other people were working on X-Rays, like Roentgen in 1895, Pupin in 1896 and Cannon (from Prairie du Chien!!) in 1897.

Did Oldendorf and Cormack really rely on those "fundamental principles" and equations when inventing CT scans?

I think the technicians might have found a way anyway.

Plus, you know what you do when your Bohr model of the atom breaks down?




You call a quantum mechanic.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
21. I'm not understanding your intention in implying that the scientists in the picture
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 04:36 PM
Apr 2014

did not contribute as meaningfully as an anonymous firefighter.

With respect at least to Einstein, Heisenberg, Planck, Schrodinger etc. such a claim is patently false.

erronis

(15,302 posts)
22. And Pasteur and Fleming didn't do anything useful either
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 04:45 PM
Apr 2014

I appreciate your attempt at humor but it would be hard to imagine the leaps of scientific advancement that happened without some of those brains being involved.

We'd be far better off from a medical expenditure standpoint if we just let people die of "natural" causes in their 30's or 40's. I don't know how old you are or hope to be, but I'd be long gone. Also the high medical costs of today's technologies become commodity costs (in my Candidian world.)

Perhaps it wasn't so much the individuals as the time (late 1800's/early 1900's) and the universities. Perhaps it was also the time when the world realized that it really could build incredible science experiments and weaponry.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
47. but most people in the past did NOT die in their 30s and 40s
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 06:53 AM
Apr 2014

my ancestor Martin Honer for example, was born in 1649 and died in 1733, age 84. My patriarchal ancestor was born in 1705 and died in 1787, age 81.

Compares favorably to my classmate who had a heart attack at age 47.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
28. No, the technicians wouldn't have found a way anyway.
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 04:56 PM
Apr 2014

Technicians had been fixing broken bones for eons but they hadn't invented the physics and engineering principles that laid the foundation for the medical advances that followed.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
23. Are you fucking kidding?
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 04:51 PM
Apr 2014

Medical technology beyond the microscope relies on their work.

EVERY piece of equipment we've put into space to explore the cosmos relies on their work.

Every energy source beyond 19th-century coal and oil burning (solar panels, wind turbines, nuclear reactors, etc) rely on their work.

And COMPUTERS! Their work laid the foundation for our understanding of advanced electronics that allow us to do things like post criticism of their work on DU.

Response to hfojvt (Reply #14)

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
46. Adding to the other responses: the Global Positioning System.
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 12:08 AM
Apr 2014

Millions of people (including even some average firefighters) use GPS devices, which are accurate only because the system, relying on Einstein's work, takes account of the relativistic effects on the clocks.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
20. Early picture of Bush, Sr. beginning
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 04:33 PM
Apr 2014

to experiment with crazy socks. Once you've worn blue socks with a tux, there's no turning back.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
36. Only one other woman besides Marie Curie has won the Nobel Prize in Physics
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 05:44 PM
Apr 2014

First rate woman physicists are exceedingly rare.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
41. Collectively more like 160 / log 29 = 109.
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 08:29 PM
Apr 2014

And given the personalities of some, the collective IQ may be even lower.

Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Staph

(6,251 posts)
43. It reminds me of some remarks made by President Kennedy
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 09:15 PM
Apr 2014

at a dinner honoring Nobel Prize winners of the western hemisphere, on April 29, 1962.


"Ladies and gentlemen:

"I want to welcome you to the White House. Mr. Lester Pearson informed me that a Canadian newspaperman said yesterday that this is the President's "Easter egghead roll on the White House lawn." I want to deny that!

"I want to tell you how welcome you are to the White House. I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered together at the White House, with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone.

"Someone once said that Thomas Jefferson was a gentleman of 32 who could calculate an eclipse, survey an estate, tie an artery, plan an edifice, try a cause, break a horse, and dance the minuet. Whatever he may have lacked, if he could have had his former colleague, Mr. Franklin, here we all would have been impressed."






calimary

(81,310 posts)
44. I just had this crazy thought - what if, at the start of the Conference, all ANY of
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 09:25 PM
Apr 2014

these Greatest Minds in the Western World was talking about, together, was how slow the toilets flushed in the bathrooms at the hotel where they were all staying?

Just in a whimsical mood today.

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