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Russian Roulette: The Invasion of Ukraine (Dispatch Twenty Six) (Original Post) snooper2 Apr 2014 OP
Well, there's plenty of DUers supporting the Venezuelan "student" mobs (that the US backs). eom Mika Apr 2014 #1
Are you saying there aren't any students in Venz with real grievances? EX500rider Apr 2014 #5
I'm positive there's students in every country with real grievances. Mika Apr 2014 #6
And just what proof do we have the US is behind any of this? EX500rider Apr 2014 #7
Kick snooper2 Apr 2014 #2
Kick again davidpdx Apr 2014 #3
And...football? Iterate Apr 2014 #4
 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
6. I'm positive there's students in every country with real grievances.
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 01:37 PM
Apr 2014

Interestingly, the US only seems to be backing students with an agenda that suits Wall Street. Those with a different agenda are thrown under the bus.


Feliz Pascua


EX500rider

(10,835 posts)
7. And just what proof do we have the US is behind any of this?
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 08:05 PM
Apr 2014

People have a right to be unhappy when you have the highest murder rate in South America and essential food stuffs are hard to find and inflation is over 50%.

Iterate

(3,020 posts)
4. And...football?
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 12:01 PM
Apr 2014

This struck me as most unusual.

The centre of Kyiv was generally calm, and a regular police presence was observed throughout the day in the city centre. The team observed the behaviour of football fans during the match between Dynamo Kyiv and Shakhtar Donetsk and spoke to a Shakhtar football team security officer, who confirmed that despite the Donetsk team winning in Kyiv and the fans of both teams being arch rivals, there was not a single clash or incident of violence among the fans and, as he put it, “there was a tremendous sense of unity, with ‘Ukraine – One country’ slogans chanted by fans of both teams during the game on a regular basis.
http://www.interpretermag.com/category/blog/


The Russian and pseudo-left narrative has been that there are deep and paralyzing divisions based somehow on language, a narrative which may be appear sensible to Americans but make little sense in a polyglot Europe. If even football continues without incident between the supposedly most antagonistic regions, then where's the civil war?

That aside appeared just below the following:

2014-04-18 13:15:06
The following is a statement from the OSCE, released by press release:

In Mariupol, as of 11:25, there were no helicopters or aircraft seen flying over the city. The town appeared to be functioning normally. The Mariupol Administration building remained occupied, with the flag of the “Donetsk Republic” flying on top of the eastern structure and the flag of the former Soviet Union flying on top of the west building. Mariupol’s Mayor claimed that the City Administration building had been occupied by 40 fighters assisted by Russian intelligence officers, and that most of the Mariupol and Donbas population were in favor of significant decentralization of Ukraine but did not support separatism.

The team left Mariupol, travelling to the Ministry of Interior Internal Forces compound, arriving at 13:12. Outside the entrance of the compound there was a government jeep which had been fired upon and was damaged both inside and out. There were traces of blood observed on the outside of the right doors and the rear tailgate of the vehicle. The metal gates to the compound entrance had at some point been removed and discarded to the side of the road. The entrance had been blocked by two large government trucks, parked facing into the compound. Upon entering the compound, the team observed that the front of both trucks had bullet holes in both the window and body. The team observed evidence that Molotov cocktails had been used against the compound, and there was one building that had burned to the ground and was still smoldering. At 15:00, the team went to the Emergency Medical Hospital. According to its director, five patients were brought to this facility, all with gunshot wounds. He also checked the daily registry for Mariupol and found that on 16 April, a total of 16 people were treated for wounds in various medical facilities. According to the Ministry of Interior and the Mayor, there were three fatalities. The Medical Director confirmed one; however, he could not personally confirm any others as he was only working at the emergency hospital. At around 15:30 the team arrived at Mariupol Airport. Upon approaching the terminal, there appeared to be no more activity than had been seen the day before, with Ukrainian flags flying. However, upon closer observation, four Ukrainian military helicopters were seen parked on the tarmac.
http://pressimus.com/Interpreter_Mag/press/2373


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