Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 01:29 PM Apr 2014

Here's The Flyer Ordering Jews To register In Eastern Ukraine, And According To BI, It Says..




An informal translation of the flyer, by Paul Goble of The Interpreter, is below:

Respected citizens of Jewish nationality! Given that the leaders of the Jewish community of Ukraine support the Banderite junta in Kiev and are hostile to the Orthodox Donetsk Republic and its citizens, the Main Staff of the Donetsk Republic orders the following:

All citizens of Jewish nationality over the age of 16 who live on the territory of the sovereign Donetsk Republic must before May 3, 2014, appear before the Donetsk Republic commissar for nationality affairs in Room 514 of the government’s offices. The cost of registration is 50 US dollars.

In addition to the sum of 50 US dollars, those registering must bring their passports so that their religious affiliation can be entered, documents about the members of their families, and also notarized documents about all the real estate and means of transportation you own.

Those who refuse to register will be deprived of citizenship and forcibly expelled from the republic and their property will be confiscated.


Link: http://www.businessinsider.com/flyers-in-ukraine-demand-jews-to-register-2014-4



22 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Here's The Flyer Ordering Jews To register In Eastern Ukraine, And According To BI, It Says.. (Original Post) WillyT Apr 2014 OP
Really, really bad chrisstopher Apr 2014 #1
Nope, nothing to see here folks! CFLDem Apr 2014 #2
I thought this would be some kind of historical document. undeterred Apr 2014 #3
I really hope this turns out to be a hoax, ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #4
Admits distributing but denies content... TeeYiYi Apr 2014 #9
Hmmm... Why would they distribute something like that if they didn't condone the content? penultimate Apr 2014 #18
So it's a moneymaking scam. malthaussen Apr 2014 #5
Anatevka, Anatevka. Underfed, overworked Anatevka. onehandle Apr 2014 #6
Thanks for posting this beautiful clip. COLGATE4 Apr 2014 #7
This song always brings tears to my eyes. Raksha Apr 2014 #12
My grandparents came from Kamenetz-Litovsk frazzled Apr 2014 #13
There is no such thing as the Donetsk Republic. Jenoch Apr 2014 #8
If this is not a hoax, it is terrifying. Coventina Apr 2014 #10
So, a state that doesn't exist, except in a small building, is demanding money from Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2014 #11
Why would they be asking for US dollars? Madam Mossfern Apr 2014 #14
Not commenting on this itself, but US dollars are the practical savings currency in cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #15
I wonder which RW American warmonger arranged this. winter is coming Apr 2014 #16
I call BS KamaAina Apr 2014 #17
Did they say they did in fact distribute it though? penultimate Apr 2014 #19
No surprises here. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #20
self-proclaimed, self-styled. Very disturbing. LiberalAndProud Apr 2014 #21
Somebody high up had better get on international media and deny that this is real. Or....nt kelliekat44 Apr 2014 #22
 

CFLDem

(2,083 posts)
2. Nope, nothing to see here folks!
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 01:35 PM
Apr 2014

Peace, peace, peace, peace, white doves, flowers, rainbows, peace, peace, peace.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
9. Admits distributing but denies content...
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 02:15 PM
Apr 2014
In a response to a request by a Ukrainian Jewish website, Pushilin, the interim government's regional chairman, confirmed that the flyers were distributed by his organization, but denied any connection to the leaflet's content.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4510688,00.html

This story is so disturbing!
TYY

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
18. Hmmm... Why would they distribute something like that if they didn't condone the content?
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 05:56 PM
Apr 2014

I'm skeptical of the whole thing, because it seems a bit convenient and vary damning. But they are admitting to distributing it?

malthaussen

(17,217 posts)
5. So it's a moneymaking scam.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 01:41 PM
Apr 2014

A "government" of no legitimacy is threatening its "citizens" with exile if they don't pony up. Looks like just a thin gloss to cover another pogrom.
And "officially" repudiated by the putative signatory.

-- Mal

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
7. Thanks for posting this beautiful clip.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 02:03 PM
Apr 2014

Unfortunately history seems to repeat itself with Jews in the Pale with frightening frequency.

Raksha

(7,167 posts)
12. This song always brings tears to my eyes.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 03:48 PM
Apr 2014

My "Anatevka" is Vadul-Rashkov, on the west side of the Dnestr River, and Kamenetz-Podolsk, on the east side.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
13. My grandparents came from Kamenetz-Litovsk
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 04:20 PM
Apr 2014

Which is in what is now Belarus. (It was sometimes in Poland, sometimes in Russia, near Brest).

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
15. Not commenting on this itself, but US dollars are the practical savings currency in
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 05:14 PM
Apr 2014

a lot of the former USSR.

Many or most Russians, for instance, keep their life savings in Amwerican $100 bills, for which they pay well over $100 in value. It is the ultimate trustworthy paper currency. (Though Euros have probably replaced some American currency.)

Under the USSR the currency was not pegged to anything and was essentially worthless for any international purpose. That's the cultural sense of money... dollars (and Euros) are real.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
16. I wonder which RW American warmonger arranged this.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 05:32 PM
Apr 2014

Yeah, it's , but can you think of anything more likely to draw us into a war, absent a nuclear attack?

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
17. I call BS
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 05:44 PM
Apr 2014

US dollars?!

Plus there's this:

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117415/ukraine-not-ordering-its-jews-register

Today, the Western press caught up with the Ukrainian rumor mill: apparently, the People's Republic of Donetsk had ordered all Jews over the age of 16 to pay a fee of $50 U.S. and register with the new "authorities," or face loss of citizenship or expulsion. This was laid out in officious-looking fliers pasted on the local synagogue. One local snapped a photo of the fliers and sent it to a friend in Israel, who then took it to the Israeli press and, voila, an international scandal: American Twitter is abuzz with it, Drudge is hawking it, and, today in Geneva, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry slammed the fliers as "grotesque."

The Donetsk Jewish community dismissed this as "a provocation," which it clearly is. "It's an obvious provocation designed to get this exact response, going all the way up to Kerry," says Fyodr Lukyanov, editor of Russia in Global Affairs. "I have no doubt that there is a sizeable community of anti-Semites on both sides of the barricades, but for one of them to do something this stupid—this is done to compromise the pro-Russian groups in the east."

Why? The Russian government has been playing up the (real but small) role of fascists and neo-Nazis in the victory of the EuroMaidan in Kiev. The Ukrainian government, utterly powerless to fight off the Russians and their local stooges, have had to rely on other methods, like leaking taped phone calls of allegedly local separatists getting their commands from Moscow. This may be just another tactic to smear the so-called anti-Maidan in the east of Ukraine: you think we're fascists? Well, take a look at these guys.

Indeed, the Russian web chatter has sniffed the hand of the Dnipropetrovsk city government. (Dnipropetrovsk is another eastern Ukrainian city, but one that has been spared this chaos, in part because of the firm hand of its new regional governor, Jewish businessman Ihor Kolomoisky. One (Jewish) blogger said he received a similar looking flier from an official in the Dnipropetrovsk city administration.

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
19. Did they say they did in fact distribute it though?
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 05:59 PM
Apr 2014

It sounds like they are saying they did distribute it, but they had nothing to do with the content of it. That part of it confuses me.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
20. No surprises here.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 06:01 PM
Apr 2014

For all the bluster about the fascists who inexplicably(and suddenly, btw! In January of this year, no less!) aligned themselves with Maidan, it's now clear that the pro-Putin side has always had the larger problem with *all* sorts of bigotry and hatred, including anti-Semitism. At least the majority of Maidan protesters are genuinely non-racist and anti-authoritarian: I'm afraid the same can't be said for the other side, however.

(And, btw, I wouldn't be surprised if far right-wing Western interests might also be involved.....on the side of Putin!)

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Here's The Flyer Ordering...