Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 05:46 PM Apr 2014

Map of where nobody lives in USA

?fit=625%2C9999

We've seen the map of where everyone lives. Now here's the reverse of that by Nik Freeman: where nobody lives in the United States.

A Block is the smallest area unit used by the U.S. Census Bureau for tabulating statistics. As of the 2010 census, the United States consists of 11,078,300 Census Blocks. Of them, 4,871,270 blocks totaling 4.61 million square kilometers were reported to have no population living inside them. Despite having a population of more than 310 million people, 47 percent of the USA remains unoccupied.

See also Stephen Von Worley's map from a couple years ago, which shows blocks in the US with only one person per square mile.

links at link
http://flowingdata.com/2014/04/18/where-nobody-lives/
39 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Map of where nobody lives in USA (Original Post) n2doc Apr 2014 OP
Nobody goes there any more... Wounded Bear Apr 2014 #1
Well, if nobody wants to go there, how are you gonna stop them? postulater Apr 2014 #10
If I could, I would...but I can't, so I won't. Wounded Bear Apr 2014 #11
One of the *many* reasons to live in the Mountain West! Jgarrick Apr 2014 #2
But we can't let in any more immigrants cuz we're all full up! n/t Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2014 #3
That certainly isn't the case but..... Swede Atlanta Apr 2014 #15
Water is the biggest issue in the places where people don't live bhikkhu Apr 2014 #29
I remember when Chris Matthews remarked at "all of the red on the screen" in election 2000 and I stevenleser Apr 2014 #4
Acreage is more important than people, according to Republicans. Arugula Latte Apr 2014 #23
Rural states have more representation per capita than more densely populated states. nt IronLionZion Apr 2014 #25
One of the most important psychological victories for the Democratic party IronLionZion Apr 2014 #26
Wonder how much of it is habitable? Skip Intro Apr 2014 #5
is habitable/was habitable. Nobody lives on top of oil fields. KittyWampus Apr 2014 #6
Depends on what ya mean by habitable. flamin lib Apr 2014 #7
Where I live is very "habitable". bvar22 Apr 2014 #13
What about the ticks and chiggers? roody Apr 2014 #18
Yep. Got those, bvar22 Apr 2014 #21
It's ALL habitable... cherokeeprogressive Apr 2014 #35
Coyotes and tumbleweeds don't count. blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #8
"Look - storage for toxic waste!" - TBF Apr 2014 #9
Odds are they shouldn't...no reason to develop most of the land... joeybee12 Apr 2014 #12
anyone know about that northeast area bordering canada JI7 Apr 2014 #14
Timberlands (nt) PotatoChip Apr 2014 #16
Long cold winters. Plenty of firewood tho. geckosfeet Apr 2014 #20
Yes, this is true. This winter was/is particularly bad. PotatoChip Apr 2014 #22
"If you cant stand Maine wintahs, you don't deserve her summahs" DiverDave Apr 2014 #33
Nearly all swamps, floodplains, deserts, and mountains localroger Apr 2014 #17
Interesting how it coincides with a light pollution map Fumesucker Apr 2014 #19
My sister tells me the fireflies in her area of KY are dying out LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #34
How much of that is national parks , state parks and lakes? oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #24
What are those living in Nevada, prospectors? ErikJ Apr 2014 #27
Ranchers and pros? XemaSab Apr 2014 #38
Can you get there from here?? Historic NY Apr 2014 #28
Being a retired military vet AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #30
Do you have a map of where the sun doesn't shine? Generic Brad Apr 2014 #31
And some folks say he's up there still... rrneck Apr 2014 #32
Jeremiah Johnson. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #36
One of my favorite movies of all time. rrneck Apr 2014 #37
Sure, sure, I got a fine horse under me! Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #39
 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
15. That certainly isn't the case but.....
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 06:39 PM
Apr 2014

I was raised in the intermountain west. It was a great place to grow up...small town, great public schools, never locked a car or house door, etc.

But there are large parts of the country from the Mississippi and Missouri west to the Pacific that are not attractive to most people. It isn't they are uninhabitable but they are not preferable. It may be the weather - cold winters, etc. or it may be the environment (e.g. high desert that is dry and brown), etc.

I knew I couldn't stay in my hometown because there were no job opportunities and I didn't want to live in a place where the temperatures in January were routinely -35 F at night and maybe -10 F during the day with winds that blew 50+ MPH STEADY.

So we cannot look at the continent as a place where we have all these "holes" where we could let in all these additional people We have to look at where they will want to live, where they can make a living and third the impact their presence will have on our ability to feed them, clothe them, etc.

I am not anti-immigrant but the conclusion that we can let in many more immigrants because we have physical space on the continent is not based on a reasoned assessment.

bhikkhu

(10,715 posts)
29. Water is the biggest issue in the places where people don't live
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:52 PM
Apr 2014

In most of them, there's simply no good access to water. Its very hard to live in a place that doesn't have water. Where I live (Eastern Oregon) its primarily "high desert". The water that we do have is over-subscribed, and every year is a struggle when there are drought conditions (which is about half of the time). Even in good years it can be a struggle between the needs of communities and the needs of farmers and ranchers, and then the need to let some water our of the reservoirs to flow downstream for the fish and so forth.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
4. I remember when Chris Matthews remarked at "all of the red on the screen" in election 2000 and I
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 05:51 PM
Apr 2014

shouted back at the screen "that's places where NO ONE LIVES!!!!!11!1!"

A lot of that green in the map above is Republican red territory. If not red states, red districts.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
26. One of the most important psychological victories for the Democratic party
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:33 PM
Apr 2014

is flipping some of these large land area states like Colorado, Nevada, Virginia, Ohio, PA, Florida, etc. in the presidential election. It is a morale booster for us and demoralizes the other side when looking at the map.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
7. Depends on what ya mean by habitable.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 06:06 PM
Apr 2014

Most of west Texas can only suport one lizard to 40 acres . . .

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
13. Where I live is very "habitable".
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 06:36 PM
Apr 2014

Plenty of clean water.
We drink, bathe, and irrigate from a Mountain Spring,
the same water the costs $1.00/gallon in the supermarkets.
Long growing season,
mild Winters,
plenty of Hardwood to heat with in the Summers,
no nearby agri-businesses, Cities, or other sources of industrial pollution,
no oil or fracking,
just good fertile earth and National Forests,
low CoL,
low property taxes,
very low population density.

The Asparagus is just now coming in,
and the strawberries will be a few weeks later.

But Shhhh.
Don't want the Yuppies to find out.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
21. Yep. Got those,
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 07:09 PM
Apr 2014

....but if you're careful, you can avoid them.

Mow the grass short around the house and other areas where one will be working.
Let your chickens Free Range on the mowed grass.

Put down carpet scraps or blankets before sliding under you car to work on the underside,
or any other reason you may have for laying in the grass.

If you have to work in the brush or timber,
duct tape your jeans to the top of your boots,
and IMMEDIATELY hot shower ASAP.
Segregate any clothing worn (Universal Precautions)
until they can be washed in bleach.
Never EVER wear the same clothes the next day.

I had one tick and two chigger bites last year,
my wife had zero,
and we are out gardening and and working on the place all the time.
We DID have a bigger problem before we got the chickens,
and learned what to do to limit these pests.

Because we live an a bald ridge, mosquitoes are near non-existent,
though in the lower lying areas, mosquitoes are a nuisance.





 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
35. It's ALL habitable...
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:47 PM
Apr 2014

Nuclear powered desalination plants on the coasts... pipelines to wherever the hell you want to put the water... put the nuclear waste on a magnetic rail gun on it's way to the Sun (Sol) and be done with it.

Problem solved.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
12. Odds are they shouldn't...no reason to develop most of the land...
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 06:36 PM
Apr 2014

I wonder if this excludes land that is techincally not occupied, but is used, like by miners and loggers.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
22. Yes, this is true. This winter was/is particularly bad.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 07:21 PM
Apr 2014

But our summers are wonderful.

A well known saying among grumpy, old time Mainers regarding 'flatlander' summer visitors is as follows: "If you cant stand Maine wintahs, you don't deserve her summahs".

localroger

(3,626 posts)
17. Nearly all swamps, floodplains, deserts, and mountains
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 06:43 PM
Apr 2014

The fine dusting in the central US is due to megafarms. It's interesting that you can pick out the outlines of some of the midwest states because of the way their tax structures affect farm land usage.

Western Maine is the largest area that's mostly actual forest land where people might actually want to live if there were services and roads.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
34. My sister tells me the fireflies in her area of KY are dying out
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:10 PM
Apr 2014

they used to be everywhere, now she says it's so unusual to see them that she will stop to watch when they do appear. Light pollution

 

oneofthe99

(712 posts)
24. How much of that is national parks , state parks and lakes?
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 07:42 PM
Apr 2014

I see they included the Great lakes but no other large lakes.

We know the federal government is the largest land owner in the country and I for one
would like to keep it that way. I like that you can hike for days without seeing a house
in some areas of the country.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
27. What are those living in Nevada, prospectors?
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:41 PM
Apr 2014

No towns or cities in central Nevada. Lone prospectors or gas stations?

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
30. Being a retired military vet
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:54 PM
Apr 2014

it is interesting that I can see the Army bases. I can see Fort Hood and its spot in Central Texas, I can see White Sands and Fort Bliss in West Texas/New Mexico, there are also dark patches for Fort Polk, LA, Fort Stewart GA, and Fort Bragg, NC.......Interesting

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
31. Do you have a map of where the sun doesn't shine?
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:44 PM
Apr 2014

I can think of a lot of people I would like to stick there.

Never mind. I just saw the light pollution map. It is all clear to me now.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
39. Sure, sure, I got a fine horse under me!
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 01:22 AM
Apr 2014

it is a damn fine movie. one of my favorites, too

Del Gue: Which way you headed, Jeremiah?
Jeremiah Johnson: Canada, maybe. I hear there is land there a man has never seen.
Del Gue: Well, keep your nose in the wind, and your eyes along the skyline.
Jeremiah Johnson: I will do that, Del Gue.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Map of where nobody lives...