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Scuba

(53,475 posts)
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 02:34 PM Apr 2014

The Real Reason Bill O’Reilly Won’t STFU About Stephen Colbert Hosting ‘The Late Show’

http://www.politicalgarbagechute.com/the-real-reason-bill-oreilly-wont-stfu-about-stephen-colbert-hosting-the-late-show/

The real reason conservative media is flipping out is that CBS hired Colbert clearly uncaring about any potential Republican and conservative backlash. I am positive that they discussed it in their meetings. After all, O’Reilly is right to point out that uber-conservatives probably really hate Colbert, so it stands to reason that any conservatives in Letterman’s current audience might be turned off by the new host. However, let’s be real, shall we? Letterman himself is a pretty progressive guy, and he has had his own run-ins with the conservative outrage machine when he had the gall to make fun of Sarah Palin and her family. So how many conservatives do you think really watch Letterman to begin with?

In point of fact, CBS’ hiring of Stephen Colbert proves just how completely irrelevant Fox News is to mainstream America, and that is the central issue driving the gargantuan levels of outrage and ire aimed at Colbert as soon-to-be new bosses. I don’t know what they think CBS should have done — hire someone from among their ranks? I hate to break it to them but there’s a reason you don’t see a lot of conservative “comedians” breaking into the big time: jokes need to be rooted in a fundamental truth in order to be funny. Not just fundamental, but universal. The entire conservative/Republican movement of the last 30 years has been an effort in walling themselves off from objective truth — because you know, “librul meediuhh biass” — and indeed from the rest of us Americans who don’t agree with their ideologies.

You know, it’s funny when Fox News crows about having the highest ratings of any cable news outlet. First of all, there are really only three of them, and CNN is so chock-full of derp these days that the only time you watch it is if you’re in an airport and you don’t have to shit so you’re stuck at the bar watching it. MSNBC is Fox’s ideological counterpart, but they don’t seem to have the same ability to toss out every scrap of unbiased journalistic credibility they have to just pound away at an entrenched, fringe philosophy. It’s funny to me that no one ever calls out Fox News’ ratings for what I’d call the “Howard Stern Effect,” meaning that when the radio and comedic icon was rising to the top, he was pulling in huge ratings, due in large part to people who actually hated him.

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CBS didn’t care about any conservative fallout because they knew that the people who watch Fox News simply wouldn’t be watching their network once the late local news came on anyway. Bill O’Reilly and his fellow conservatives are terrified because between Colbert, Jimmy Fallon, Seth Meyers, Jimmy Kimmel and Conan O’Brien, there’s nary a conservative among them. They’re all true comedians and therefore will have no problem lambasting the left when necessary, but represented within the current stable of late night hosts (hey TV execs, on a side note: Can we get a female on one of the big late night shows, please?) is the unflinching reality that conservatism in America is not the mainstream, and the mainstream doesn’t really care how much the right freaks out about anything — from Benghazi to blowjobs to late night hosts — because that’s all the right does now: Freak out about stuff.
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The Real Reason Bill O’Reilly Won’t STFU About Stephen Colbert Hosting ‘The Late Show’ (Original Post) Scuba Apr 2014 OP
Hit the nail on the head... LakeVermilion Apr 2014 #1
I've been saying that for a while now! AleksS Apr 2014 #33
I had not seen this Esse Quam Videri Apr 2014 #41
the Fox News viewers I know are old and cannot stay up past 10 pm anyways!! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #2
O'Reilly is an idiot and blowhard Gothmog Apr 2014 #3
.. Cha Apr 2014 #34
One of the other reasons is TlalocW Apr 2014 #4
Exactly!!! Everyone one of these conservatives having a hissy fit about Colbert getting the job... LynneSin Apr 2014 #9
probablly can't imagine that he wasn't offered it first 2pooped2pop Apr 2014 #13
It's not even that TlalocW Apr 2014 #15
yes, this makes sense 2pooped2pop Apr 2014 #42
But but but conservatives are funny C_U_L8R Apr 2014 #5
There is always somebody in the comments section of Letterman's YouTube vids nyquil_man Apr 2014 #6
I've known a few of those 2naSalit Apr 2014 #14
Maybe this is O'Reilly's last opportunity to play off of Colbert KurtNYC Apr 2014 #7
Billo's jealous. Arkana Apr 2014 #8
He's jealous 2naSalit Apr 2014 #16
bill, I don't know how the tides work, o'lielly is jealous that he wasn't asked. Javaman Apr 2014 #10
So Billo doesn't really believe in the free market? gratuitous Apr 2014 #11
Rove probably took a poll... Blanks Apr 2014 #43
He's just mad he didn't get picked. Initech Apr 2014 #12
Got a good one in mind... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #17
thank you rurallib Apr 2014 #21
That's great They_Live Apr 2014 #32
As far as I'm concerned, she could EASILY take on Craig Ferguson. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #35
love Ms. Griffin Skittles Apr 2014 #39
O'Reilly, as with Limbaugh....... DeSwiss Apr 2014 #18
So who in Bilbo's mind should CBS have picked? Dennis Miller? Drew Carey? bluesbassman Apr 2014 #19
Actually..... cab67 Apr 2014 #24
Drew Carey is a rightwing asshole Skittles Apr 2014 #40
Since Miller switched over I have never heard a funny thing from him. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #27
Ego A-Go-Go Billsmile Apr 2014 #20
Republicans don't do funny The Wizard Apr 2014 #22
+1 Enthusiast Apr 2014 #26
I still remember the Fox attempt to copy the Daily Show Gothmog Apr 2014 #30
Their idea of humor is when someone they hate dies. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #36
They've spent the last 15 years telling members of their cult... nxylas Apr 2014 #23
Well done. K&R. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #25
Now that he will be on a major network... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2014 #28
He has delusions of being truly relevant tavernier Apr 2014 #29
EXACTLY like his fans/audience Populist_Prole Apr 2014 #31
Don't forget Arsenio Hall in the late nite line up. trublu992 Apr 2014 #37
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Apr 2014 #38

LakeVermilion

(1,040 posts)
1. Hit the nail on the head...
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 02:40 PM
Apr 2014

America just doesn't care about conservatives feigned outrage at everything. How incredible is it that the pseudo-tough guys in the conservative wing are just constant whiners?

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
33. I've been saying that for a while now!
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 08:23 PM
Apr 2014

I've been saying that for a while now!

The conservative umbrage brigade is full of, well, umbrage that they're not taken seriously anymore. Look at the Honey Maid commercial responding to the right wing haters--Seriously, if you haven't, then watch it now!



The day of the right-wing backlash meaning anything is ending, and they won't go quietly. They will go ineffectively, just not quietly.

It only makes it harder for them when liberal issues are actually winning battle (Flush Rush, the Mozilla CEO thing, etc.)

Gothmog

(145,152 posts)
3. O'Reilly is an idiot and blowhard
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 02:58 PM
Apr 2014

Colbert has spent the last 10 years mocking O'Reilly by pretending to be a conservative pundit based on O'Reilly. Now Colbert is getting rewarded for these efforts and O'Reilly's feelings are hurt.

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
4. One of the other reasons is
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 03:05 PM
Apr 2014

Pure jealousy. I don't know, but I would guess that Letterman's audience is bigger than O'Reilly's, and it's definitely bigger in the under 49 demographic that is so important. He's tried to match Colbert on humor as well as trying to tar him with "un-American" views and always failed. His one thing that he could always brag about was the size of his audience compared to the Daily Show and Colbert Report, and he's not going to be able to do that when Colbert takes over.

TlalocW

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
9. Exactly!!! Everyone one of these conservatives having a hissy fit about Colbert getting the job...
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 03:23 PM
Apr 2014

are jealous because they weren't asked.

Thing is this - Colbert knows how to turn off his comedy central personality. He'll do the Late Show in the same manner as every other late show host does it - where they have no issue lamblasting either side of the political spectrum. If a politician makes a fool of themselves you can bet Colbert and the other Late Night hosts will joke about it.

But in the past when right-wing personalities have been given a chance to do mainstream hosting it's always been an epic fail. Just look at what happened when Rush Limbaugh was given a chance to host EPSN Sunday Night football. ESPN and Limbaugh swore it was all about Limbaugh's love & knowledge of football and that Limbaugh would put aside partisan politics. That lasted 4 weeks into the season when he decided to insult Donovan McNabb saying the only reason the media likes him is because he's black.

Who really wants to take that kind of risk?

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
15. It's not even that
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 03:51 PM
Apr 2014

I'm sure O'Reilly suffered no delusions that he was in the running, and if there was an actual application process for which he could thrown his name in the ring, I doubt he would have done so. It's just that O'Reilly hates to see anyone succeed more than he does. In fact, O'Reilly probably just hates to see anyone succeed because he feels that it takes away from attention for him.

Plus he really hates it that some guy like Colbert, with whom he pretends to be friendly because even he knows that if he wasn't, it would just give Colbert more ammo to mock him, is going to be the one.

The thing I can say about Colbert is that no matter what, he seems to be enjoying his life, and he doesn't have to be "on" all the time like Bill is, which is why he'll make a good host. And living well is always the best revenge.

TlalocW

nyquil_man

(1,443 posts)
6. There is always somebody in the comments section of Letterman's YouTube vids
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 03:16 PM
Apr 2014

moaning about what a horrible left winger he is.

I'd imagine there will be at least a few conservatives who will be disappointed when they realize that Colbert isn't actually a conservative.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
7. Maybe this is O'Reilly's last opportunity to play off of Colbert
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 03:18 PM
Apr 2014

I don't know if Colbert is taking his 'mock-O'reilly' schtick to CBS. He may drop it or he may do a more generic version of it.

Once Colbert drops the O'Reilly obsession, O'Reilly's star fades.

Also, Conan O'Brien has been off network TV for almost 4 years now, and Jimmy "The Man Show" Kimmel IS conservative (and not that funny).

2naSalit

(86,572 posts)
16. He's jealous
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 03:53 PM
Apr 2014

because he severely lacks any noticeable talent and that Colbert can turn off the persona because it's a role... Billo is what he is and is too self absorbed to realize it.

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
10. bill, I don't know how the tides work, o'lielly is jealous that he wasn't asked.
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 03:29 PM
Apr 2014

and at the end of the day, in o'lielly's mind, if it's not about him, he hates it.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. So Billo doesn't really believe in the free market?
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 03:33 PM
Apr 2014

CBS, from my reading of Billo's rantings, should consult with Billo and other conservative oracles before making any programming or personnel moves. CBS should ignore market realities on what makes money, but instead base its business decisions solely on keeping Billo and his ilk happy, and expect nothing in return?

Will Billo create a Commisariat of Acceptable Programming himself, or just outsource it?

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
43. Rove probably took a poll...
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 02:14 PM
Apr 2014

And the results show that more Americans wanted O'Reilly to host the show.

...but (as we learned in 2012) Karl's polls aren't actually polls, just his opinion mixed with a bunch of wishful thinking.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
18. O'Reilly, as with Limbaugh.......
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 04:13 PM
Apr 2014

...all have the same demographic problem that CBS, with this move, is trying to avoid:



- K&R

cab67

(2,992 posts)
24. Actually.....
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 04:59 PM
Apr 2014

....Drew Carey wouldn't be that bad in the role. Not nearly as good as Colbert, but not disastrous, either.

Billsmile

(404 posts)
20. Ego A-Go-Go
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 04:16 PM
Apr 2014

Colbert always outsmarts O'Reilly and Bill's overinflated ego can't handle the idea that Colbert is winning on all fronts.

It's actually kind of sad seeing the seasoned "news" guy obsessed with a comedian who owns his behind time & time again.

The Wizard

(12,542 posts)
22. Republicans don't do funny
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 04:55 PM
Apr 2014

Satire and irony are not in their equation. How many right wing rubes still think Stephen is one of them? Critical thinking and comedy go hand in hand. And we know critical thinking is an anathema to Republican black and white dogma.

Gothmog

(145,152 posts)
30. I still remember the Fox attempt to copy the Daily Show
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 05:47 PM
Apr 2014

A while back, Fox News attempted to copy the Daily Show with something called the Half Hour News Hour. It was really really bad. It was basically a Fox News broadcast with a laugh track. Conservatives lack the intelligence to have a sense of humor

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
23. They've spent the last 15 years telling members of their cult...
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 04:58 PM
Apr 2014

...that any media outlet outside their bubble is lying to them. And now they're complaining that the "lamestream media" is no longer even trying to get them to watch. Chickens, meet roost.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
25. Well done. K&R.
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 05:20 PM
Apr 2014

Modern day "conservatism" is not in the least bit funny.

Dishonesty and comedy is incompatible.

A comedian cannot share a wry observation based on a lie and expect laughs.

Just yesterday my wife and I were discussing the fact that there are no late night women hosts.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
28. Now that he will be on a major network...
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 05:25 PM
Apr 2014

he will have a much larger audience. That is why I think they are bouncing off the walls.

tavernier

(12,382 posts)
29. He has delusions of being truly relevant
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 05:29 PM
Apr 2014

amongst the general population, instead of just being a big fish in a polluted pond.

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