Many conservative claims go unanswered out of sheer fatigue

[cthulu2016]

There was a conservative on Bill Maher this week who tossed out a blizzard of talking points about whatever the topic was as if that constituted discussion.

She made one amazingly bad argument about Obamacare and I was struck that nobody felt like challenging it because why? It would just lead to more random talking points.

But it was so jaw-dropping I thought I'd share.

She stated that Obamacare has been demonstrated to not reduce the rate of growth of healthcare costs. This is the opposite of what has actually been shown, so one does wonder how it was "demonstrated."

She explained that if you looked at the cost curve 5 years before Obama care and five years after Obamacare they are the same.

First, that's probably not even true.

Second... "Five years after Obamacare" is dated from the passage of the law... as opposed to, say, five years after Obamacare went into effect.

Amazing.

[liberal N proud]

1. Their plan it to baffle the public with bullshit

[arcane1]

2. Yep, that's how they operate. If it goes unchallenged, they can claim it's "true"

If it's challenged, then the opponent spends all their time challenging lies. It's maddening!!

[Blue_Tires]

3. Yeah, that's a page out of the official playbook

it will get kicked into high gear once election races heat up again...

[Capt. Obvious]

4. The Gish Gallop

It's not just for Creationists.

[NuclearDem]

5. There's a name for that, the Gish Gallop.

Simply throw out enough nonsense and declare victory when the other side simply can't respond to all of them due to sheer volume.

[okaawhatever]

11. It's important people understand it's a debate tactic. it's one used by desperate people. nt

[House of Roberts]

6. That's like claiming Obama hasn't helped the economy

based on the metrics as he assumed the office. Things continued downhill for a while before policies were changed, and longer before they started to take effect and turn things around.

[arcane1]

7. Hell, they retroactively blamed him on the bank bailout because he was RUNNIING for president then!

[Zorra]

8. Protecting our country from sociopathic, pathological liars is a full time job, and

it is exhausting.

[ProSense]

9. The RW talking points are everywhere.

Sometimes dressed up to look like something else.

[calimary]

10. And dammit, they have to be ANSWERED!!!!

Checked! Challenged! Debated! Knocked thoroughly and decisively DOWN! And if somebody wants to motormouth and be rude and talk over everybody else and interrupt all over the place as it seems too many of the bad guys have now been taught to do, then YANK THEIR FREAKIN' MICS!!!! CUT 'EM OFF!!!!!!!! If I were hosting some show like that (or anywhere), I'd let the opposition know in no uncertain terms - up front, before anything started, that if they do that on MY airtime, they WILL be forced to stop. Physically and/or mechanically, if they refuse to play nice. So far better they shut themselves up and show some manners - otherwise I would not hesitate to do it, or have it done for them.

Shit, I'm in some kinda nasty mood today!

[jimlup]

12. Spaghetti Strategy

Throw everything against the wall in hopes that something sticks. It shows their desperation. The problem is people are gullible and many will fall for their crap.