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okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
Mon May 5, 2014, 04:41 PM May 2014

If You Dumped Every Human Into The Grand Canyon, This Is What It Would Look Like

There are a lot of people on Earth--7.2 billion, in fact. Ever wondered what it would look like if you took all of us and piled us up on the floor of the Grand Canyon?

OK, maybe that's not something you've wondered about. But the folks at the YouTube series Vsauce haven't just wondered about that theoretical pile of humanity. With the help of Canadian designer Eesmyal Santos-Brault, they've managed to show us--and the result is equal parts creepy and amazing.


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This is part of a really cool video called How Many Things Are There?
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If You Dumped Every Human Into The Grand Canyon, This Is What It Would Look Like (Original Post) okaawhatever May 2014 OP
Where should those things go?... lame54 May 2014 #1
Who dreams these things up??!! oldandhappy May 2014 #2
what lucky duck gets the Porta Potty contract on that job? NightWatcher May 2014 #3
lol. Imagine the smell of that pile quinnox May 2014 #4
In the Hills, The Cities. AngryAmish May 2014 #5
Yes! That was a really original horror story. Barker's 'Books of Blood' Vol. 1-3 are quite good nomorenomore08 May 2014 #56
free online AngryAmish May 2014 #60
Thanks for the heads-up. And unfortunately, I think you're right about the potential film version - nomorenomore08 May 2014 #65
Too many now to just Stand on Zanzibar elbow to elbow. nt Hekate May 2014 #6
That pile looks to be 3 or 4 miles high and about the same width... yawnmaster May 2014 #7
The video is pretty interesting. They quantify things like "thoughts" and do a good explanation okaawhatever May 2014 #9
I, too, found it interesting. I'm looking forward to putting the information to use some day. eom yawnmaster May 2014 #39
It is impossible to estimate the size of that pile. Jenoch May 2014 #32
It is not impossible as I just did it!! I cannot do the impossible... yawnmaster May 2014 #37
You are correct I guess. Jenoch May 2014 #46
If you watch the first twenty seconds of the video they do a zoom in that shows the entire grand okaawhatever May 2014 #41
Um, ok, I think I laughed a little too hard at that. LisaLynne May 2014 #8
"Everyone on Earth would fit in a cubic mile" - See link John1956PA May 2014 #10
I read that if everyone lived as condensed as they do in Manhattan the world's population could okaawhatever May 2014 #12
I did the math once using 6 Billion people..... A HERETIC I AM May 2014 #17
Was that everyone living in a one story? Just curious. nt okaawhatever May 2014 #20
Yup A HERETIC I AM May 2014 #26
Cool. Thx. nt okaawhatever May 2014 #28
Lakes in Texas? Jenoch May 2014 #33
Yes. A HERETIC I AM May 2014 #48
I don't disagree with the calculation about fitting people in Texas, Jenoch May 2014 #50
weird Liberal_in_LA May 2014 #11
John Brunner had us all hfojvt May 2014 #13
no, not quite lapfog_1 May 2014 #57
hmm, well Brunner ended his book hfojvt May 2014 #59
That's really lousy work. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #14
XKCD had a "What If?" post a while back... krispos42 May 2014 #15
I'm disappointed. Why would they be piled up in a cone like that? scarletwoman May 2014 #16
LOL A HERETIC I AM May 2014 #18
Well, you know, I didn't START it. scarletwoman May 2014 #22
While I won't comment on your desire to spatulize (new word) all of humanity, I will tell you that okaawhatever May 2014 #19
Sorry, can't watch video, still on dial-up out here in the boonies. scarletwoman May 2014 #23
On an unrelated subject.. giftedgirl77 May 2014 #27
Heh! Yeah, there are still some of us doing it old school. (nt) scarletwoman May 2014 #29
I agree. Jenoch May 2014 #35
No shit! (so to speak) scarletwoman May 2014 #38
I've never had the extended experience, but over the winter can't you randomly... yawnmaster May 2014 #42
Well, the hole is only so large - like, you don't want it so big you could fall in, ya know. scarletwoman May 2014 #44
Hah! I wonder how many DUers CAN relate? Jenoch May 2014 #43
We're in the same state! I'm in northern Pine County, in east central MN. scarletwoman May 2014 #45
You might be near the Nemadgi State Forest. Jenoch May 2014 #53
My first thought was - "for such a relatively 'small' pile, it's astounding how much damage we do." calimary May 2014 #61
A gigantic conehead, that's us. n/t Jefferson23 May 2014 #21
Don't give little Anthony ideas... hunter May 2014 #24
What would everyone look like... MannyGoldstein May 2014 #51
and knowing my luck, even with all those people, my hand would STILL Takket May 2014 #25
Soylent Green?? madinmaryland May 2014 #30
Someone will totally photoshop a bulldozer in that pic. lolz. nt okaawhatever May 2014 #40
I wish I had time! yurbud May 2014 #63
Having nothing to do pipi_k May 2014 #31
Why wouldn't we spread out? Generic Brad May 2014 #34
They tell you in the video that we couldn't come close to filling it up. I know a lot of people okaawhatever May 2014 #47
I wouldn't want to be at the bottom of that pile n/t Blaukraut May 2014 #36
No, it wouldn't. jberryhill May 2014 #49
E.O. Wilson just said KT2000 May 2014 #52
I'd settle for just piling up all the lobbyists, hedge fund operators, banksters and insider traders BlueStreak May 2014 #54
And all elected Republicans. undeterred May 2014 #55
I have this compelling urge defacto7 May 2014 #58
Hey, who's kicking me? nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #62
LOL nt okaawhatever May 2014 #64

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
56. Yes! That was a really original horror story. Barker's 'Books of Blood' Vol. 1-3 are quite good
Tue May 6, 2014, 12:48 AM
May 2014

but unfortunately I lost my copy.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
65. Thanks for the heads-up. And unfortunately, I think you're right about the potential film version -
Wed May 7, 2014, 06:22 PM
May 2014

that probably is a big reason why, out of all Barker's stories, that one has never reached the screen. Though society certainly has evolved in the last 30 years (in some respects anyway) so the gay aspect may not be such a problem forever.

yawnmaster

(2,812 posts)
7. That pile looks to be 3 or 4 miles high and about the same width...
Mon May 5, 2014, 06:50 PM
May 2014

Now that is a lot of cubic feet. Not too surprising that all humans could fit in that...
but when we are piled to we clump like magnetic particles??? because that's what it looks like in the image. They obviously aren't individual people.
Also, I don't think we would be stable in a pile. Those on the bottom would be essentially liquefied by the weight of those above...but then the Colorado river would take care of that, I suppose.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
9. The video is pretty interesting. They quantify things like "thoughts" and do a good explanation
Mon May 5, 2014, 07:00 PM
May 2014

of how big the Universe is.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
32. It is impossible to estimate the size of that pile.
Mon May 5, 2014, 10:43 PM
May 2014

There is no reference point. That graphic is worthless without actually showing, you know, the Grand Canyon.

yawnmaster

(2,812 posts)
37. It is not impossible as I just did it!! I cannot do the impossible...
Mon May 5, 2014, 11:05 PM
May 2014

or can I? are you saying I can? thank you, if so, but I really can't do the impossible.
So estimating the size of the pile must have been possible.

My secret?
The grand canyon IS shown in the picture. That would be the cracks in the ground and the pile is about 3 or so times taller than the rim shown. And the GC rim is about a mile up from the river.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
46. You are correct I guess.
Mon May 5, 2014, 11:26 PM
May 2014

The layers of the sediment are visible, but I still did not care for the graphic.

I would like to see the perspective from the Grand Canyon Skywalk.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Canyon_Skywalk

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
41. If you watch the first twenty seconds of the video they do a zoom in that shows the entire grand
Mon May 5, 2014, 11:13 PM
May 2014

canyon before it stops where the picture shows. it puts things in better perspective. They also tell you we can't fill the grand canyon.

John1956PA

(2,654 posts)
10. "Everyone on Earth would fit in a cubic mile" - See link
Mon May 5, 2014, 07:09 PM
May 2014

Years ago, I read an article like this one:


Everyone on Earth would fit in a cubic mile

Really. You could put the entire population of the Earth in a space one mile wide, one mile deep, and one mile high (one cubic mile). We'd all fit in one small corner of the Grand Canyon, which would take about 2500 cubic miles of dirt (or people) to fill.

More at http://wow-really.blogspot.com/2006/10/high-density-housing.html



okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
12. I read that if everyone lived as condensed as they do in Manhattan the world's population could
Mon May 5, 2014, 08:29 PM
May 2014

fit in the state of Texas. I thought that was surprising.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
17. I did the math once using 6 Billion people.....
Mon May 5, 2014, 10:02 PM
May 2014

vs the land area of Texas - excluding lakes and rivers, of course.

Each of 6 billion would have about 1300 square feet to themselves, if I remember the math.


And not another soul on the rest of the planet.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
26. Yup
Mon May 5, 2014, 10:18 PM
May 2014

I just went to Wikipedia, found the land area of Texas in square miles, solved for total square feet and divided by six billion.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
48. Yes.
Mon May 5, 2014, 11:32 PM
May 2014

A large reservoir is a lake. So is a small one, for that matter.

It has been a while since I did the math, but a google search turns up plenty of examples of others doing this with a 7.1 billion figure.

The fact is, you could fit every single human on the planet inside Texas with each having the space of a small, one bedroom apartment.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
50. I don't disagree with the calculation about fitting people in Texas,
Tue May 6, 2014, 12:12 AM
May 2014

just the part of actual lakes in Texas. There may be rwsivoirs and ponds, but they still ain't real lakes.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
13. John Brunner had us all
Mon May 5, 2014, 08:31 PM
May 2014

Standing on Zanzibar.

Although by now we would doubtless be about 100 miles away.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
57. no, not quite
Tue May 6, 2014, 01:27 AM
May 2014

if every person on earth stood next to each other and we gave them 4 sq feet per person...

7,200,000,000 x 4 = 28800000000 sq ft.

That's about 1,033 sq miles.

Zanzibar total area = 1020 sq miles.

so, we could all right now... Stand on Zanzibar.

And all the other things that Brunner wrote about are coming true... "Shockwave Rider", "The Sheep Look Up", etc

Not only did he dream of the Internet in 1975... and yeah, I know, the Arpanet already existed... I was writing code for the first generation routers / translators (IMPs)... but he was thinking of "worms" (our virus) and hacking and all sorts of things that we now live with.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
59. hmm, well Brunner ended his book
Tue May 6, 2014, 04:02 AM
May 2014

with people standing knee deep in the ocean (I thought) and that was in 1973.

He only has people with 2 square feet rather than 4. And has Zanzibar with only 620 square miles.

I believe he is correct since wiki gives the total area as 1,020 but that includes "numerous small islands and two large ones: Unguja (the main island, referred to informally as Zanzibar), and Pemba."

He was just talking about Unguja.

But 1x2 is a pretty small square. My own shoulders are about 19-20 inches across and my feet are 11 inches long - and I am a fairly small guy. 1x2 would have us standing basically shoulder to shoulder and heel to toe.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
14. That's really lousy work.
Mon May 5, 2014, 08:36 PM
May 2014

No one bothered to use a spackle tool to fill in all those fissures. You've got to spread the stuff sround and make sure the entire hole is covered. Then paint.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
15. XKCD had a "What If?" post a while back...
Mon May 5, 2014, 08:44 PM
May 2014

...asking the question "what would happen if you had a mole of moles?"

The answer was pretty gross. Either you had the entire earth covered with moles to a height of 50 miles, or a second, slightly larger moon made entirely of meat and fur.

http://what-if.xkcd.com/4/

I sort of imaging the bottom of this pile would look like that.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
16. I'm disappointed. Why would they be piled up in a cone like that?
Mon May 5, 2014, 09:56 PM
May 2014

I'd much rather see them spread out in an even layer along the bottom of the canyon. How far would it stretch? How many bodies deep would it be? How far up the Canyon walls would the layer go?

I visited the Grand Canyon a little over two years ago, and the incredible scale of the place is very much impressed in my memory.

As a cook, that image just makes me want to grab a spatula to smooth it out into a proper filling.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
18. LOL
Mon May 5, 2014, 10:05 PM
May 2014

Make a people fondant, eh?

I'm somewhat mechanically and engineering inclined so I want to know what a dam would look like!

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
22. Well, you know, I didn't START it.
Mon May 5, 2014, 10:11 PM
May 2014

But I've rolled many a burrito in my day, and one thing I know is that you want your filling spread out fairly evenly.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
19. While I won't comment on your desire to spatulize (new word) all of humanity, I will tell you that
Mon May 5, 2014, 10:05 PM
May 2014

the first 20 seconds of the video gives a better image of how small the pile really is relative to the Grand Canyon. I think if anything, they would fit in a single layer at the bottom, but probably wouldn't even make a full second layer. You have to watch the video.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
23. Sorry, can't watch video, still on dial-up out here in the boonies.
Mon May 5, 2014, 10:15 PM
May 2014

But I thank you for this: "I think if anything, they would fit in a single layer at the bottom, but probably wouldn't even make a full second layer."

For me, that would be a more meaningful image.

Oh, and, love the word "spatulize".

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
27. On an unrelated subject..
Mon May 5, 2014, 10:21 PM
May 2014

I couldn't figure out why ppl were putting dialup warnings in their headers, thanks for inadvertently educating me.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
35. I agree.
Mon May 5, 2014, 10:56 PM
May 2014

That pile of humans looks like a pile of human feces in the business end of an outhouse.

It makes me want to take a stick and knock it down before it tickles my arse.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
38. No shit! (so to speak)
Mon May 5, 2014, 11:07 PM
May 2014

Oh, and the "knock it down before it tickles my arse" thing? I totally relate, having no indoor plumbing.

I keep a length of rebar beside my outhouse for just such a task throughout the winter months, when the frozen stalagmite of shit threatens to reach higher than the drop point.

yawnmaster

(2,812 posts)
42. I've never had the extended experience, but over the winter can't you randomly...
Mon May 5, 2014, 11:13 PM
May 2014

center (or off center) yourself to keep the stack from growing so tall?

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
44. Well, the hole is only so large - like, you don't want it so big you could fall in, ya know.
Mon May 5, 2014, 11:21 PM
May 2014

So, the best you can do is sidle over maybe a little over an inch at most one way or the other. In any case, for knocking-over purposes, tall and narrow makes it easier.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
43. Hah! I wonder how many DUers CAN relate?
Mon May 5, 2014, 11:21 PM
May 2014

Fortunately for me I am referring to our no running water, no electricity cabin in northern Minnesota.

May I ask in what region of our country it is where you seem to enjoy those late night visits to the place with no name?

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
45. We're in the same state! I'm in northern Pine County, in east central MN.
Mon May 5, 2014, 11:25 PM
May 2014

I have electricity though, just no plumbing.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
53. You might be near the Nemadgi State Forest.
Tue May 6, 2014, 12:29 AM
May 2014

Several years ago we were looking for hunting/recreational property. We looked all over. The parts of Pine County we looked at just did not seem right. Plus one of our brothers would be travelling from western Minnesota. 

We ended up with a tar paper shack with a couple hundred acres in Cass County. While we have no electricity and no lake, we do have a lot of fun. We have enlarged and made our tar-paper shack into a cabin without running water or electricity. That keeps out the women-folk, not that that was our intention.

calimary

(81,276 posts)
61. My first thought was - "for such a relatively 'small' pile, it's astounding how much damage we do."
Tue May 6, 2014, 11:57 AM
May 2014

Takket

(21,572 posts)
25. and knowing my luck, even with all those people, my hand would STILL
Mon May 5, 2014, 10:15 PM
May 2014

probably wind up on Karl Rove's rear end.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
34. Why wouldn't we spread out?
Mon May 5, 2014, 10:55 PM
May 2014

You can't fill up the Grand Canyon with just one big old pile. Spread those bodes out and then we'll see if we fill the damned thing up.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
47. They tell you in the video that we couldn't come close to filling it up. I know a lot of people
Mon May 5, 2014, 11:31 PM
May 2014

can't watch the video but for those who can the first 20 seconds shows the pile relative to the entire grand canyon and the pile is actually pretty small.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
49. No, it wouldn't.
Mon May 5, 2014, 11:52 PM
May 2014

If "every human" includes myself, then it would look nothing like that, since I would be in the pile.

Unless you mean "every human other than myself".

But I'd like to see some proof so, okay everybody, get going!

KT2000

(20,581 posts)
52. E.O. Wilson just said
Tue May 6, 2014, 12:27 AM
May 2014

that if you weigh all the ants in the world and all the humans in the world, they would be about equal.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
58. I have this compelling urge
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:53 AM
May 2014

to get out a bottle of Malathion. The earth would thank us in this one case.

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