Mother's Day gay hating mom gets Slushee poured on her in front of news cameras.

[catbyte]

Now she is filing assault charges on the young woman. This cretin was standing on the side of the road with a big sign saying THANK YOUR MOTHER FOR NOT BEING GAY. A young woman expressed her displeasure. That's not how I would have handled it,but I understood her frustration. The sign lady was so sanctimonious, so self-righteous, only SHE knew THE TRUTH. Made me want to hurl.

Details at www.woodtv.com

[CurtEastPoint]

1. The sign lady is a serious hot mess.

Take a look at her FB page: gun toting, Duck Dynasty supporting, Revelation reading Godly woman!
https://www.facebook.com/christine.weick

[catbyte]

2. GACK. Not surprising. She had that smug, glazed eyed look of a True Believer.

Pity that SHE is the one getting the majority of airtime.

[Cirque du So-What]

13. I see that her husband is leaving her

I can't imagine why

[MADem]

14. She's getting some serious pushback (not for the faint hearted) on her fb page, there....

A few samples--there are many others:

Tim Daniels Jesus would slap the shit out of you for being such a hateful waste of space.

Erik Rozenski Where's Dorothy? Cause someone needs to drop a house on this witch! Karma! You'll get yours and when you're at your worst, it'll be a gay man or woman who could save you, and I sure as hell hope they don't. Say hello to Hitler on your way down you rotten cow!

Donna Hadrich I expect this to be deleted very soon like all the other comments were, but: "I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent." Timothy 2:11 http://www.ranker.com/.../top-20-bible.../ivana-wynn
3 hours ago · Like · 8

Amanda Journey Apparently, she only wants to see comments that agree with her ignorance and bigotry. It's easier to delete comments rather than engage in an educated debate.

James McDermaid You're a hate filled woman.
3 hours ago · Like · 10

Anthony James Severson You are a hate filled bitch, may you find science and reform for your hatred.
3 hours ago · Like · 7

Abbie Wibe my only regret is that the girl that slushied you didn't get a punch in!
3 hours ago · Like · 9

[calimary]

75. Can't see any of it. I'd have to "like" her or add her as a friend in order to do that.

NOT willing to do that!

Thank you for sacrificing and doing it on our behalf, though! You brave soul, you!

[MADem]

86. I didn't "like" her--she must have changed her settings.

I saw all of that in the clear!

EDIT--I just went back there to have a peek...locked up tighter than a drum.

Pity, she was getting some serious hurt piled on her! Some of the comments were brutal, bordering on cruel, but really, big picture, deserved.

It was one of those awful, yet deserved, train wrecks that one just can't look away from....

[Violet_Crumble]

93. She must have changed it to private a few hours ago...

When I first looked, it was public. Then I went to make a cup of coffee to accompany my FB trolling of her page, and when I returned it was private. Spoilt all my fun

[MADem]

115. Some of the people were really getting personal with her....

Which is deserved, really, because she was getting pretty personal and hateful with complete strangers over a natural element of their biology. They were throwing bible verses at her, and most particularly jabbing at her Achille's heel--her divorce, commiserating with her husband and things of that nature. She was griping that she had to sell all the plants in her garden and have yards sales, etc., because she had to get out of the house due to the divorce, and people were telling her that she was going against God's law for getting divorced--there were quite a few people getting into it with her and using her fundamentalist views against her. Many of them were terribly clever!

I can't fret that she's getting pushback as a consequence of being a jerk. I don't feel sorry for her, I don't think the people who are yelling at her are "bad" and that they should turn the other cheek, or anything like that--I think they have a point, and if that miserable meanie wants to feel "victimized" because people are telling her what an asshole she is, well, she can live off that feeling of being aggrieved...but it won't pay the bills or keep her warm at night, the horrid cretin!

[Skittles]

28. nutcase

Rapture Forums, Jesus Is Coming Again, Prophecy Proof, The Prayer Network, Prophecy News Watch, IsraelNationalNews, Now The End Begins, John Mason, The Temple Institute, Christians United for Israel (CUFI), United With Israel, Glenn Beck, Paul Lalonde, Scripture Guide, Ray Comfort, Stand With Phil Robertson, I HATE HALLOWEEN!, Praise Jesus, The Battle Is Real, Erika Grey, Prophecy in the News, Ground Zero with Clyde Lewis, STOP PLAYING CHURCH, Killuminati, Woodward Baptist Church, ?HenrygMinistriesPastorHenryg, Cynthia Denese Carter, Israel Media Ministries, Grace Saves, Prophecy News, Parable of the Fig Tree - How close to the End are we?, ?End Time Headlines, Stand for Israel, Joel C. Rosenberg's Epicenter Team, ?✡ I Support Israel Against Her Enemies! ✡, ??Benjamin Netanyahu - בנימין נתניהו?, 10,000 People to Understand The Book of Revelation

[Nobel_Twaddle_III]

64. But she has a great flower garden. How did she ever get a concealed carry permit?

scary

[2naSalit]

70. And...

Ankle-biters!!!

[Oilwellian]

111. Now it's oozing out in a public way

[RKP5637]

30. Yet another POS! She's lucky she just got Slushee, some gun toter might have done

differently.

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. Ok, that is a character, and I don't mean it in a good way

thanks though.

[jmowreader]

120. She's made it private already

[HooptieWagon]

3. Technically, that is assault.

But if I was on the jury, I'd vote for jury nullification.

[m-lekktor]

4. i need to grow up i suppose, i was cheering on the girl in the red shirt while watching this.

i am so sick of those bigoted assholes who go out of their way to stand there on a street and be like that i guess i let emotions overrule proper decorum.

[RKP5637]

35. It's pretty hard not to get fed up with their BS, and IMO they get way too much of a free pass to

practice their hatred and bigotry. They are disgusting filth.

[KittyWampus]

5. hurling a slushee onto someone isn't just "expressing displeasure". It is assault.

Lots of things the young woman could have done to express her displeasure without assaulting the hate-monger.

[LynneSin]

7. Absolutely! Eye for an Eye makes the whole world blind

That's all the slushee tosser did.

[Niceguy1]

32. and lost credibility

By poor behavior.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

9. I mean....you know....

It's not as bad as pistol-whipping someone and leaving him to die by the side of a Wyoming highway. But GODDAM IT, those things are full of high fructose corn syrup!

[nomorenomore08]

15. +1

Exactly. Let's have some perspective here, please.

[catbyte]

89. And, to be honest, most of if got on that heinous sign.

She shouldn't have tossed it, though. Just give Batshit Crazy Lady more to feel persecuted about.

[KittyWampus]

92. so do you believe in free speech or not? Are you against bullying or not? Pick a lane.

[Skip Intro]

20. Yep. n/t

[LynneSin]

6. As much as the message this woman was displaying was disgusting...

throwing a slushee in someone's face is absolutely wrong and if anything it makes us look even worse.

This is not the behavior that progressives should be displaying. There is nothing positive about assault even if the assault is a frozen beverage.

People like Ghandi, Martin Luther King - they changed the world with civil disobedience. Slushee tossing is nothing more than an act of violence that makes us look worse than the woman holding the sign. Technically the woman was just showcasing her first amendment right. Think of how much better the message would have looked if several pro-LGBT supporters surrounded her holding messages of love. Then it would have made her look bad and us look good.

Instead she looks bad and we ended up looking worse.

[RKP5637]

36. Yep, well said! It might feel good, but in the big picture we look worse. n/t

[minivan2]

68. I disagree

Sure it's degrading the woman, but there are worse things she could have done, how would you react if she started beating up the woman. IT'S JUST A FUCKING SLUSHEE! Get over it you pushovers.

[MADem]

87. Who's "us?" A woman got pissed at her and threw a slushie at her.

She didn't throw the slushie "in the name of progressives," she threw it because in her view the woman was a bigoted so-and-so who deserved to have a beverage thrown at her, just like the guy who didn't like her anti-Muslim screed at Easter tossed eggs at her because he thought she deserved that, too. For all we know, these people were conservatives who happened to disagree with her on those particular issues. Not all people who oppose bigotry in one regard or another are "liberals" or "progressives." It's faulty logic to assume that.

All we can assume is that there are at least two people who like to fling consumables at this woman because of her bigotry.

This isn't representative of a movement, yet, anyway. Maybe if she starts getting racial, or maybe even discriminatory when it comes to, say, immigration status, someone can go throw tomatoes at her--rotten ones, preferably.

I can't worry much about how some hater is going to feel. Anyone who supports this nutbag is a hater, so to hell with 'em.

[LynneSin]

90. No it's not. But trust me - the news channels will make her the face of progressives

That's why as a general statement I say this because I know that the news media will find the absolutely worst person out there and make that person the focus of 'Here's the typical person that represents the LBGT movement' (or any other progressive cause)

[Bluenorthwest]

101. But Lynne, the actual face of progressives was as usual, absent. Straight folks who claim to be

oh so pro gay are never, ever there to take a stand. Your post was so charmingly wistful..' if only pro-gay people had surrounded her'. But straights never do that. What they do is defend the hater with the sign, and tell the only person with the guts to take a stand how they should have behaved. 'Should have stayed home in silence, like we did with Westboro or like the Pope does with Uganda!'.
Yeah, 'if only'. We all await that glorious day when straight America stops letting their crazy people attack others with impunity.

[MADem]

116. Who knows? The bottom line, though, is we can't live in fear of what assholes think.

I notice that the likes of Ann Coulter does not worry about what people think, with her snarky imitation of Michelle Obama. Rush Limbaugh doesn't censor himself when he's making bigoted and hateful remarks. So fuck people who don't "get" that being a homophobe isn't OK, or who don't understand that what this woman is doing is hateful, nasty and shameful. If they want to make it all about a pissed off woman tossing a drink that is 90 percent ice, then they don't "get" it in the first place, and they're not going to be convinced that being gay is not "bad" or "wrong," it just is. They're beyond that level of understanding, so...fuck 'em!

People throw food and drink at this hateful woman for a reason, and the reason isn't that she's a "victim," it's that's she's an asshole.

[magical thyme]

97. agreed, 1,000% nt

[arely staircase]

8. that is battery and is a crime

I don't condone the assault of even bigots.

[nomorenomore08]

16. Sorry, but I really don't care what happens to people who treat others as subhuman.

If that makes me an asshole then so be it, I'm okay.

[Logical]

18. Wow, physical assault for people you disagree with? Classy! nt

[nomorenomore08]

19. Someone hates you to the point of desiring your extermination, and you're supposed to be all

polite and conciliatory???

[Logical]

22. LOL, polite? How about not physically assaulting them? Wow, get it yet? nt

[nomorenomore08]

23. Was the woman severely injured? Will she have lifelong medical problems, or PTSD?

Compare that to the brutal murder of LGBT people all over the world!

[Logical]

24. WTF is wrong with you? A sign is not a reason to assault someone. nt

[nomorenomore08]

25. I guess I've just had it with spiteful, self-righteous folks who hate people just for being born

who they are. I doubt I would ever go as far as the Slushee-thrower myself, but I understand why she did it.

[Logical]

31. Feeling like doing it is different than doing it. nt

[nomorenomore08]

34. You're right about that. And I do think I need to get a grip on my anger issues.

Anger may be justified in many cases, but you can't let it eat you alive.

[RKP5637]

37. That is true, but I sure know what you're feeling. I'm really fed up with creepy bigots. n/t

[Logical]

40. I am sorry people have to be such assholes......

I understand your anger. I wanted to punch Fred Phellps group in the face when they protested a Bill Maher appearance in Kansas City. But the two men standing in front of their signs and kissing made me smile!! And pissed them off.
I understand you being mad!

I hope things are getting better overall!

[nomorenomore08]

42. I'm not gay, but I've come to feel the sting of prejudice very acutely, even if not directly.

I suppose the flip-side to being a naturally sensitive person is that it's harder to control my temper at times.

[Gravitycollapse]

45. Anger is a gift.

[nomorenomore08]

50. "Anger is an energy..."

I think we're more or less on the same page here.

[jberryhill]

81. But "she was asking for it"

When a woman has something thrown at her, the first thing we must do is to determine what she did to deserve it.

[Separation]

76. Some people just dont get it.

I look at pictures in the history books, and online of thousands of Jews all in a nice line walking into the gas chambers. Thousands walking out into a forest to dig their own graves. I think HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?!

a Slushy to the face is lucky all she got.

[LynneSin]

99. And to think Gandhi and MLK never used violence even when they were treated subhuman

[nomorenomore08]

121. And they were giants among men. Virtually no one would deny that.

But their approach is not the only valid one, is all I'm saying.

And as I said in another post, "violence" is broader and more subjective than just kicking somebody's ass. In this case, holding a bigoted sign in public could be considered an act of violence against a vulnerable minority group.

So if they want to fine the Slushee-thrower for disorderly conduct, then okay, fair enough. But to me, what the other woman did in the first place was arguably just as bad.

[LynneSin]

125. Their approach seems to be the more successful

And why would we not think of ourselves as 'giants among men'. We all have that same ability to make change without using violence.

The thing about the woman with the hateful sign - if it wasn't for that gal with the slushee, then none of us would have known about the hateful bigoted woman. She would have disappeared back into the nothingness she came from. Instead one small act of violence now elevated this woman to a folk hero for the right wing. Faux News and the Tea Party supporters love stories like this where someone was simply expressing their 1st amendment rights. Now she is famous thanks to a slushee toss.

Had no one tossed a slushee this woman would have been non-existant to the rest of the world. And btw other people did protest, mainly just yelling things back at her.

[Gravitycollapse]

41. Physical violence and rhetorical resistance are sometimes blurred...

I feel like I discuss continuums a lot but that is because I believe they are important.

The throwing of a slushy in someone's face exists along a continuum of resistance which at one end is entirely intellectual, lacking even the remotest sense of threat against a person's physical body, and at the other is mindless physical violence. Somewhere in the middle exists a convergence of intellectual resistance and physical action.

In an orderly, lawful society, popular justice is frowned upon because it counters the monopoly on violence to which the state is the sole possessor. But at the same time popular justice can still be legitimate at least on some stateless level and I think we tend to experience sentiment for such action while feeling the conflict it raises with our desire to follow law and order.

With that in mind, is throwing a slushy in the face of an avowed bigot, whose violent rhetoric instills fear and anxiety in the hearts and minds of innocent people, worthy of legal punishment? In technical terms, as we bend towards the monopolization of power by the state, yes it is. But as an act of popular justice, an expression of resistance against the psychic violence delivered blow by blow from a person filled to the brim with absolute hatred for her fellow human beings, I see no wrong done.

I don't think that makes me an asshole. I don't think it makes me noble. I think it means I understand that psychic violence, having an immensely understated potential to do lasting harm, should be countered at every turn.

[arely staircase]

43. pretty sure that isnt what the relevant statute says. nt

[Gravitycollapse]

48. Law is simply a means of obtaining justice. Which means law is subordinate to justice...

Historically, popular justice has been either a compliment or resister to state law precisely because the goal is sustaining justice and not simply to build the apparatus of state legitimacy. Law is meaningless without this ultimate aim.

Those who argue the essential nature of law are forever a slave to its grasp and they will be unable to see when justice supersedes its authority. They will not be able to understand how law itself can be unjust because they see justice as only embodied within law and not as a higher form of thought or legitimacy.

Does our legal system demand the prosecution of the slushy thrower? Without a doubt, yes. Do I feel any sort of ethical obligation to see to it that this person is held legally accountable? Absolutely not. I couldn't care less. Mostly because I feel no sympathy for the victim.

[arely staircase]

51. I'm pretty sure that argument wouldnt work in court

the slushy woman found a way to make a bigot the victim. as a member of the lgbt community I don't want anyone throwing shit at people on my behalf.

[Gravitycollapse]

55. Without question, my argument would crash and burn in court.

I don't think anyone threw anything on your behalf. This wasn't an action taken on behalf of a body of individuals. It was a single action of resistance, expressing the legitimacy and power of an individual against the unsolicited, unabashed vitriol and misanthrope of another individual, to which I feel remarkable satisfaction.

[arely staircase]

58. her "action of resistance" was a dick move. check out the guy with counter sign downthread

that is how to handle bigots. violence except in self defense is never justified.

[Gravitycollapse]

60. What is your definition of "self-defense?"

[arely staircase]

62. use of force to prevent imminent bodily harm

http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1909

sorry, but standing around holding a sign doesn't rise to that level regardless of the offensiveness of the message.

[Gravitycollapse]

71. Okay, so you stick to the law. I do not. This is where we part ways.

I see the law as a conduit for justice. You see the law as the embodiment of justice. The two are not the same and in fact diverge massively when placed in situations like the one given.

[arely staircase]

72. the whole "that person's speech provoked the violence against them" reminds me of when the

supreme court struck down flag burning laws and Louisiana passed a law making theassault of flag burner a class c misdemeanor. laws against assault and constitutional free speech are there for you and me and the crazy bigot woman.

[jberryhill]

114. Let's talk about Justice for a minute

There used to be a guy who would sit outside a building where I worked. Grubby and disheveled, he would talk to the demons in his head, and let us all know what they were saying. Apparently, they never had anything nice to say, and he would make it loud and clear to anyone who passed by that his personal gods were angry with them, in very unpleasant terms.

He was mentally ill.

What do you know about the woman with the sign?

[nomorenomore08]

49. Thank you for explaining it better (and more dispassionately) than I probably could.

One doesn't have to condone a specific action - like the Slushee-throwing - to acknowledge that the definition of violence is both broader and more subjective than just "kicking ass." Psychic violence in its various forms - bigotry, poverty, etc. - is ultimately just as damaging as direct, physical violence, to the extent that in some instances, "popular justice" can be looked upon as a form of self-defense.

And speaking of continuums, I think we all exist on one between "asshole" and "noble," and the two aren't mutually exclusive by any means.

"I understand that psychic violence... should be countered at every turn." I feel much the same way, hence my admittedly intemperate posts earlier in the thread. Though said resistance need not automatically equal physical assault - there are other ways.

[Liberal_in_LA]

10. pic of the slushy throw

http://interactives.woodtv.com/photomojo/gallery/12229/229893/slushie-thrown-on-anti-gay-demonstrator/pro-gay-demonstrator/

[oneofthe99]

57. If she did that to a cop she would have been cuffed and stuffed on the spot

The assault charge is absolutely justified

[arely staircase]

59. actually it is battery, not assault. but yeah.

I saw a drunk frat boy throw a beer at a cop in college. the idiot got arrested and the cops shut down the whole party. the fraternity assholes refused to give us our five bucks back we paid to get in.

[joshcryer]

88. Nice aim.

[Scruffy Rumbler]

11. Mmmm....

but my mom is gay. And I thank her for coming out when I did. It was a fun journey for the most part!

[Brigid]

12. Now stunts like this are really going to help end bigotry.

Yes indeed.

[MADem]

21. Well, I think she's got more trouble than just an ired person with a cold drink...

She seems to invite people to throw consumables at her:

HE IS RISEN! I just returned home. My last day at the mosque was again eventful. I started with the sign at 8:00am. Traffic was light. At 10:00am the mosque had a breakfast going and people started pulling in. A group of kids from a Sunday school nearby delivered a doughnut to me. I thought that was cute. (There are two other churches by the mosque). Then a jerk started throwing eggs driving past. He hit the sign the first time and it busted all over Mohammad's name. The second time he drove by, I figured he must have had a dozen... so I called 911. In the meantime while I wait for the cops, he throws another three eggs and all miss me. I had the cop there for me the next hour with no problems. I hate bothering the officers, but I have people standing and talking with me and if they would get hit - I would really feel bad. The sign protects me and I can duck behind it. About noon, my new friend Joseph shows up with his sign! He is a Muslim from Lebanon about 26 years old. He stands a short distance from me and I ask what his sign says. It says: "Muslims love Jesus - Happy Easter" I ask him if he wants to stand by me, and he does. I told him if I get egged, he gets hit! He laughed and asked if that was the reason why I wanted him to stand by me. We talked for over an hour together. I really had fun with him! Every time a car would honk - we would wonder for who they were honking for. Of course, I shared the Gospel with him and we had a great talk. He is very intelligent and delightful. But I asked him a question and he really didn't have an answer. I asked if we have Buddha - why no Anti-Buddha? If we have Hindu - why no Anti-Gandhi. And since we have Muhammad - why no Anti-Muhammad? But yet we have Christ - and an Anti-Christ!!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=768913509793283&set=a.244697168881589.66506.100000239240703&type=1&theater



Here's another one of her little signs, that she displayed in front of that mosque:




She's a little shit-stirrer, she is! And she uses "the good book" to find topics about which to shit-stir!

And she doesn't understand Islam, plainly--her "little friend" Joseph is right; Isa (Jesus) is regarded as a prophet in Islam. He's just not the Big Cheese Prophet.

[jberryhill]

77. So the Slushee was her just desserts?

It was the first punch thrown.

[MADem]

110. Well, one could look at the event as an opportunity to enjoy a cold beverage.

Just as the fellow tossing eggs at her for picketing the mosque with her "Mohammad is dead" sign was offering her a nutritious breakfast!

[snooper2]

102. at this point I would say she has a mental issue

lock her up

[MADem]

113. She has an odd right to be a hateful bigot--at least to a point.

Of course, she's not going to be able to be one of those without inviting some reaction (which, I am pretty sure, is what she seeks).

[KittyWampus]

124. maybe she's taken a page from Phelp's book. Be outrageously hateful in public

and sue for damages if someone pushes you or throws a slushee at you.

[Terra Alta]

38. She was practically inviting someone to attack her.

She clearly provoked the attack and I have not an ounce of sympathy for this bigot.

[nomorenomore08]

17. These are the folks who would probably send gays to concentration camps if they could.

A Slushee to the face is frankly the least that should happen to them.

[Skittles]

26. her sign makes no sense

gay gals are perfectly capable of having children

[Violet_Crumble]

95. Neither does the top she's wearing...

I'd have called the Fashion Police on her, but hopefully the Slushee took care of the matter and that top won't get another public airing...

On a serious note, nothing those religious nutters say make any sense. Making sense involves having to think and use logic, and there's no verse in the old testament explaining to them that they need to do those things...

[dilby]

27. Great she went to being a corner nobody to on the news because

someone threw something at her. I don't agree with her message but she does not deserve to be assaulted and she definitely does not need to be given a bigger platform.

[Terra Alta]

29. so this bigot got a Slushee thrown at her.

Wow, I'm sure she's traumatized for life now.

Meanwhile, LGBT people worldwide and even here in the US are being killed, beaten, and otherwise persecuted just for being who they are. And this lady claims she was "assaulted". I hope this case is thrown out of court.

[backscatter712]

39. Throwing a slushee is an act of violence?

For fuck's sake, are we that easily freaked out?

OH NOES!!! SHE GOT A STAIN ON HER SHIRT!!! CALL THE SWAT TEAM!!!

An act of violence would be someone going up to her and punching her teeth down her throat. Tempting, but not cool, and an illegal act of battery.

Throwing a slushee doesn't count.

[seveneyes]

44. Throwing a slushee doesn't count?

What do you think would happen to someone if they threw a slushee at President Obama? What do you think should happen to them if they did?

[backscatter712]

46. Public officials have gotten pied in the face...

and had other food objects thrown at them plenty of times. Maybe that's disturbing the peace, or disrupting a public event, but assault? Really? Sounds like an assault charge would be an overreaction.

[Terra Alta]

52. it's different because Obama is a public official

This lady is some nobody who provoked an attack; she deserved what she got.

[egduj]

65. "she deserved what she got"...

Where have I heard that before?

"She deserved what she got" by the way she was acting...

"She deserved what she got" by the way she was dressed...

[Terra Alta]

67. the difference is that this woman is an instigator

who wanted someone to attack her just so she could play the "victim". Women who are dressed a certain way do not dress that way to seek attention like this bigot did with her sign.

[magical thyme]

98. and someone else was just a slut who wanted to get laid and get sympathy

and off the hook for enjoying getting laid.

You don't know the mindset of that woman. And regardless of her mindset, it does not justify assault.

[nomorenomore08]

78. That comparison only works if you thinking dressing a certain way, and spewing hate toward innocent

people, are equivalent. And I don't see how they are, at all.

I mean, in what country outside the Middle East, is a short skirt considered just as inflammatory as a hateful sign?

[backscatter712]

123. She deserved what she got for spewing her fucking bigotry.

If she doesn't want to be a target, she should keep her hate to her fucking self.

[oneofthe99]

63. Obama .....try doing it to a cop

[arely staircase]

54. specifically, it is battery

Specific rules regarding battery vary among different jurisdictions, but some elements remain constant across jurisdictions. Battery generally requires that:
1.an offensive touch or contact is made upon the victim, instigated by the actor; and
2.the actor intends or knows that their action will cause the offensive touching.

[Systematic Chaos]

61. Oh, I DEFINITELY saw a misdemeanor assault take place. Don't know about you.

You don't chuck chunks of ice (which all slushy drinks turn into at the bottom before they finally melt, from my experience) at someone, and ruin their clothes and possibly injure their eyes, just because you're pissed at them for being a homophobe.

Two wrongs do NOT make a right, and the girl really needed to stop with just debating the lady with the sign. No harm in that, and if you have any intelligence at all then a lady like the one with the sign is just another teabagger fish in a barrel. Embarrass them, make them look as silly as they are, but DON'T throw shit at them or hit them.

[jberryhill]

79. I'm surprised that people think this way

Let's go back to grade school, shall we?

Do you remember "keep your hands to yourself" and "don't throw things at people?"

Or were you sick that day?

[nomorenomore08]

80. I think it's being fed up with senseless bigotry that gets people hurt, and sometimes killed. n/t

[jberryhill]

82. There's always a reason for violence

And violence is always looking for a reason.

[nomorenomore08]

83. Very true. I'm not elated about what happened, but I understand why, especially if the thrower

of the Slushee happens to be LGBT herself.

[FiveGoodMen]

118. I agree, but we seem to be in the minority here.

[Ilsa]

47. Hystrionic personality, maybe?

Seems to be dying for attention with the sign, etc.

[NYC_SKP]

53. Link to the story with video and a pic of a clever retort!:

Story with video clip: http://woodtv.com/2014/05/11/slushie-thrown-on-anti-gay-demonstrator/

[arely staircase]

56. now THAT is the proper way to deal with such people. nt

[Nobel_Twaddle_III]

66. This poor woman needs mental health help bad

Check out the face book page – scary is an understatement.

[Lex]

69. That sign was a big "Pour a Slushy On Me" sign

but still, the lady who took the bait and did it, shouldn't have.

[Violet_Crumble]

73. That poor Slushee n/t

[arely staircase]

74. not to hijack a thread but regarding your sig line

the cult was the definition of jock rock. not the early stuff like she sells sanctuary so much but everything after that.

[Violet_Crumble]

96. Plus Ian Astbury's always been a bit of a wanker...

I'm a fan of the Foo Fighters and they're not jock-rock nor bogan, which I think are two different things. This is a classic and old example of what bogan's love listening to when they're cruising around in their old Commodores...

[nomorenomore08]

84. To those who feel sorry for her - what if she'd help up a sign with "I HATE NI**ERS" or something

a la "Die Hard 3"? Or if she'd thrown a Nazi salute in public? The sign may not have contained actual slurs, but the sentiment expressed was plenty inflammatory, as it implies that gay people's mere existence is illegitimate. Many people (myself included) do not take that sort of thing lightly, nor should we.

[struggle4progress]

85. Still more evidence that being a self-righteous a-hole is a contagious disease

Maybe that's why so many exist

When you meet an a-hole, try hard not to contract the illness yourself

[HockeyMom]

91. When they gave out brains,

these people were at the bottom of the barrel. Of course, lesbians can be mothers. The same as pro-choice women can be mothers also.

Besides bigots, they are just plain STUPID.

[Orsino]

94. Thank the young woman...

...for making Sign Lady's persecution fantasy come true. She will have helped Fox sell homophobia.

[sarisataka]

100. For those who approve of the reaction

what if the young lady did not have a slushy, what would be ok? A sandwich and fries, a Pepsi bottle, a small rock, a large rock, bag of marshmallows, a baseball, just punch her in the gut?

How much physical violence is ok to use against a bigot holding a sign?

[Bluenorthwest]

104. I note the energetic and passionate disapproval for her actions which is much greater than

the energy devoted by the same straight folks to entire genocidal pogroms against gay people in Africa, daily violent attacks in the US, or the basic fact that straight folks insist upon laws that allow them to discriminate and denigrate gay people. The fact is, straight hate mongers with anti gay signs are a very common expression of straight society which is rarely countered by other straights. Fact is right now today in Uganda LGBT people are in hiding and fear for their lives due to the actions of straight religious folks, including Catholic Bishops. Each day, straights on DU make signs that say 'We Love the Boss of the Bishops Calling for Genocide'.
Straight privilege means you get to whine about a spilled drink while smugly remaining silent about genocide.

[sarisataka]

106. Africa is a bit far for me

so there is little I can do directly.

In the U.S. however I have gone face to face with gay haters. It was the haters who changed my views on homosexuals from silent disapproval to open acceptance and advocacy. They caused me to examine my own prejudices and realize my hypocrisy.

I now will oppose any one such as this woman and have stood between those who would do violence to gays and their intended victims. I will freely meet violence with violence but I will not condone any violence against speech.

As for genocide, it is easy to talk about stopping it but much harder to do something. I have participated in peacekeeping missions to curtail violence against various ethnic and demographic groups. It is not pretty nor is it easy. Really the only way to stop such actions are to militarily occupy and assume absolute control over the troubled area. We have seen how well that works...

[Bluenorthwest]

108. My post was not entirely about Africa, and even the bits that are were presented in the context

of what is said about them on DU. I note you refused to comment on what I said.

[sarisataka]

109. What did I not comment on?

I cannot change society nor DU with a wave of my hand.

I do not disagree that there is hate and a lack of support. I do oppose it when it comes across in my daily life. I find hate speech repugnant but grudging admit it is protected free speech. As such it should be countered with free speech, not violence. If the hate escalates to physical action, then it can be forcefully countered and I am quite willing to act to protect victims.

As for DU, all I can do is paraphrase Mr. Orwell,

All progressives are equal, but some progressives are more equal than others.

It should not be so.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

122. How many DUers do you see defending those pogroms?

I'm afraid I think your call for more choir-preaching is misplaced; the things worth discussing on DU are the ones DUers disagree about.

[ieoeja]

105. For this, I would say the sandwich and fries are okay.

Bag of marshmallows would just be a waste.

The others would cause physical harm. I would have to know more about what happened before the confrontation. Sometimes words do legally (and morally) qualify as assault. Battery in response to assault might legally qualify as self defense.

Morally, I don't have many qualms about bigots getting hurt.

I equate "espousing bigotry" with "picking a fight". And you don't get to pick a fight, then cry when someone takes you up on the offer.

[sarisataka]

107. I cannot think of any words

that would be cause for self defense action, without some means of a threat present. A woman holding a hateful sign does not qualify.

[jberryhill]

112. "I equate "espousing bigotry" with "picking a fight"."

The problem is that everybody has their own personal set of equations in that regard.

Whether and when a woman is "asking for it" by her behavior is a complicated subject. I do recognize that you among others in this thread are of the view that the first question to be answered when a woman is attacked is "did she deserve it?".

This woman with the sign, as discussed above, has clear psychological issues.

Do you equate "being crazy" with "picking a fight"?

[FiveGoodMen]

119. I'd say...

The sandwich and fries and the bag of marshmallows would be okay.

[Billy Budd]

103. I cannot condone

Throwing something at someone because of her thoughts ...its neither a moral nor pragmatic thing to do ...love is the only antidote for hate ...

[SwankyXomb]

117. John Lennon called it Instant Karma.

Act like an ignorant fuckhead in public, get a slushee thrown at you. She's just luck that's all it was.