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May 13, 2014 By Allen Clifton
Welfare rancher Cliven Bundy and his band of armed supporters who dont understand how our laws or Constitution work are the story that just keeps on giving.
Its been over a month since this story first broke, yet there are still reports of armed Bundy supporters roaming around the Nevada and Utah deserts standing up against the federal government. The fact that there continues to be groups of people sitting around the desert doing nothing for well over a month now has led many individuals like myself to ask the question, Dont they have jobs?
Well, that question has somewhat been answered as it seems that several of these patriots who dont need help from anyone are now asking for welfare from supporters to help them pay bills and buy food.
- See more at: http://www.forwardprogressives.com/bundy-ranchs-armed-lunatics-asking-welfare-can-continue-sit-around-work/#sthash.SepbPbbc.dpuf
liberal N proud
(60,397 posts)The same ones are touting gun nuts rights and blasting the government.
Duppers
(28,148 posts)It's perfect.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Gumboot
(531 posts)Just guessin'...
central scrutinizer
(11,722 posts)They aren't afraid of work - why they can lie down right next to it and take a nap.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)I love that--setting a goal of $100,000.
Their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor....
sakabatou
(42,293 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)As a (nearly) life-long resident of the intermountain West, I'm well aware of government subsidies of nearly ALL development in the area. I'd LOVE to have a national discussion on that subject.
calimary
(81,874 posts)That's all I've got.
Just fuck 'em.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)mfcorey1
(11,007 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)I'm sure he is willing to share, especially sine he as grazed his cattle for free for so many years.
"Let them eat steak!"
Kingofalldems
(38,596 posts)I bet they even have some sort of KP and other extra duties.
Larkspur
(12,804 posts)Talk about lack of hospitality.
The other question to as the moocher militia gang, is do that have homes that need upkeep and mortgages to pay?
Do they have any bills to pay back home? That's why most people have jobs.
The BLM should stay put for a while and watch these wackos learn the hard way, why We the People have a government and why the government collects taxes -- to pay the Peoples bills, stupid!
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)onecaliberal
(33,268 posts)for these so called gentlemen to pull themselves up by the bootstraps. Who do they think they are anyway, welfare kings? They should have thought of this ahead of time.
louis-t
(23,359 posts)Let them graze with the cattle if they're hungry.
Beartracks
(12,876 posts)Occupy should go heckle these people and tell them to get a job.
Lol
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Beartracks
(12,876 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,502 posts)they don't want to pay for moochers. That's what the RW says, reality is they don't like to pay for anything and try to get out of their obligations by cheating on their taxes, filing bankruptcy (personal and corporate), and absconding with their ill gotten gains. They are the REAL MOOCHERS!!!
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)chknltl
(10,558 posts)(I posted the entire comment, I think it important on a couple of levels):
Fully reprinted Donald Cowen's commentary regarding the so called Militia involved with the Bundy Ranch, http://www.forwardprogressives.com/bundy-ranchs-armed-lunatics-asking-welfare-can-continue-sit-around-work/
"As to your statement "While I know some people are sick and tired of hearing about anything related to Cliven Bundy, I believe these people are providing us with a prime example of the kind of anti-government lunacy thats prevalent within the Republican party" it should be noted that political affiliation has nothing to do with this issue.
I am a republican and a Veteran, however I support the concept of rule of law and I whole heartily support responsible gun ownership and those rights associated with them. I do not agree with Bundy and his supporters and there are a lot of republicans who know the difference between legitimate show of force as compared to unlawful use of force.
Bundy and his band of outlaws are not patriots and have done a major disservice to those law abiding citizens who are gun owners. I agree that these idiots have crossed the line but lets tone down the political party rhetoric and focus on the solving the problem!
The Second Amendment right is two fold in that it protects the right of the State to organize, arm and train its own State Military Force, hence the organized aspect of the militia. The problem is that we have a band of people who have organized themselves, unlawfully, as a military force, thus if they open fire they will be doing so without authority of law!
Furthermore if they do open fire due to a counter response by the government they will not be able to claim "Self-defense" as legal justification for their use of deadly force because the law of self defense as rooted in our nations history specifically prohibits an a "initial aggressor" to claim the right of Self defense.
The second prong of the Second Amendment rights specifically deals with the private right of action to keep and bear arms for the purpose of lawful self defense of "hearth and home." In this situation a person doesn't need to have government permission to use a firearm whereas he does need to be involved in a sanctioned organized Militia, operating collectively under official color of state law to claim legal justification for offensive combat operations!
These ass clowns who call themselves "militia", "patriots","freedom fighters", "oath keepers", "Sovereign Citizens" ...etc need to learn the concept of self defense for defensive purposes and leave the collective category of self defense for offensive military operations to those of us who are properly trained, well equipped, and extremely organized!
It is up to the States respectively through it own sovereignty to declare war on the feds if it should come to that. Taking the law into your own hands will strip you of the protections of the constitution because at the core the constitution is law. You cant place yourself above the law then expect to claim its protection it just doesn't work that way!"
(I do not know how much I am allowed to reprint but this being in the commentary section of the article it would likely become buried in short order. I believe this particular piece of commentary is worthy of consideration by us here in the DU so I hope I can be forgiven for reprinting it whole as it was intended by it's author.)
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)and they've already run out of supplies? And they're only protecting a smidge of the armpit of Nevada?
Yeah.
These people should definitely lead us all.......
bluedigger
(17,098 posts)or three...
Hong Kong Cavalier
(4,573 posts)Let 'em run out of money and then when they all leave...
nilesobek
(1,423 posts)That they are unemployable as mentioned upthread means they are probably on their last resources.
Blue Owl
(50,978 posts)n/t
maxrandb
(15,529 posts)and not a hunter amongst them??? I'm shocked!
I thought they longed for the days when "Men were men, and...Sheep Were Nervous"
Hey, Bundy doesn't also raise sheep does he? That would explain a lot if he did.
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)These self-called "patriots" are the real moochers. Hopefully if they attempt to sign up for welfare the government will laugh in their faces.