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bigtree

(85,975 posts)
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 05:54 PM Jun 2014

No, Mrs, Clinton, this doesn't make sense; not unless you mean Bush's view of supporting the troops

from the Nation:

This is what Hillary Clinton said at an event sponsored by the Toronto Region Board of Trade:

CLINTON: I kept trying to say “Well if we knew then what we know now it would not have ever come for a vote,” all of which was true, but just sort of avoided the fact of my saying “You know I just got it wrong, plain and simple. I made a mistake.” I thought a lot about that, because people said well—“You’re not saying you made a mistake for political reasons.” Well in fact, in the Democratic Party at that time, the smart political decision, as so many of my colleagues did, was to come out and say “Terrible mistake, shouldn’t have done it,” and you know blame the Bush administration. I had this sense that I had voted for it, and we had all these young men and women over there, and it was a terrible battle environment. I knew some of the young people who were there and I was very close to one Marine lieutenant who lead a mixed platoon of Americans and Iraqis in the first battle for Fallujah. So I felt like I couldn’t break faith with them. Maybe that doesn’t make sense to anybody else but me, but that’s how I felt about it. So I kept temporizing and I kept avoiding saying it because I didn’t want there to be any feeling that I was backing off or undercutting my support for this very difficult mission in Iraq.


read:

http://www.thenation.com/blog/180251/hillary-still-doesnt-get-it-iraq#

watch:



. . . supporting the troops always meant keeping them safe from unnecessary harm. Nothing about wanting to continue that opportunistic, counterproductive, soldier-bait of a mission in Iraq supported the troops, Mrs. Clinton. If you truly thought the invasion was wrong, keeping that to yourself and 'temporizing' broke faith with those soldiers that you personally knew and the rest.

I guess the apology from her for that will have to wait. I apologize for defending her intentions in Iraq, in any way, to anyone here.
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No, Mrs, Clinton, this doesn't make sense; not unless you mean Bush's view of supporting the troops (Original Post) bigtree Jun 2014 OP
I wish that more people could see through the myth Vattel Jun 2014 #1
Good point. elleng Jun 2014 #3
in that misadventure bigtree Jun 2014 #5
I entirely agree. Vattel Jun 2014 #7
She's got problems trying to 'explain,' elleng Jun 2014 #2
from your lips bigtree Jun 2014 #4
» bigtree Jun 2014 #6
It's pathetic. She clearly voted for the IWR out of political calculation and nothing else - as did scarletwoman Jun 2014 #8
 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
1. I wish that more people could see through the myth
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 06:00 PM
Jun 2014

that caring about the troops means endorsing their mission. The troops don't need to be patronized. Respecting them means telling them honestly what you think about what they are doing.

bigtree

(85,975 posts)
5. in that misadventure
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 06:30 PM
Jun 2014

. . . supporting those troops meant halting the government overthrow in motion and insisting on a return to the diplomacy promised.

They decided it would be a cakewalk and it was irresistible to them to push forward and see if they could create a democracy behind the force of our military. It was a vain and tragic use of our troops, who were little more than cannon fodder to the politicians and the military leaders.

elleng

(130,732 posts)
2. She's got problems trying to 'explain,'
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 06:04 PM
Jun 2014

and might (?) find she can't do it adequately, and then decide NOT to run. Ya think?

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
8. It's pathetic. She clearly voted for the IWR out of political calculation and nothing else - as did
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:03 PM
Jun 2014

pretty much the rest of the Dems who voted "yes".

To now attempt to lay her lack of apology for that vote on "concern" for the troops is the most utterly base hypocrisy I can imagine. It makes me ill.

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