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joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 06:15 PM Jul 2014

Federal judge: Arguments against gay marriage 'are not those of serious people'

A federal judge on Tuesday struck down Kentucky's ban on gay marriage, and in doing so he issued a scathing rebuke to opponents of same-sex marriage.

In his ruling, District Judge John G. Heyburn II shredded the state's argument that a gay marriage ban was necessary from a biological standpoint because "traditional marriages contribute to a stable birth rate which, in turn, ensures the state's long-term economic stability." Heyburn pulled no punches in labeling that claim "disingenuous."

These arguments are not those of serious people. Though it seems almost unnecessary to explain, here are the reasons why. Even assuming the state has a legitimate interest in promoting procreation, the Court fails to see, and Defendant never explains, how the exclusion of same-sex couples from marriage has any effect whatsoever on procreation among heterosexual spouses. Excluding same-sex couples from marriage does not change the number of heterosexual couples who choose to get married, the number who choose to have children, or the number of children they have. [...] The state's attempts to connect the exclusion of same-sex couples from marriage to its interest in economic stability and in "ensuring humanity's continued existence" are at best illogical and even bewildering.

http://theweek.com/article/index/264096/speedreads-federal-judge-arguments-against-gay-marriage-are-not-those-of-serious-people


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Federal judge: Arguments against gay marriage 'are not those of serious people' (Original Post) joeybee12 Jul 2014 OP
Yay! shenmue Jul 2014 #1
Woohoo! giftedgirl77 Jul 2014 #2
Yay! sheshe2 Jul 2014 #3
Quite true! We seem to have a number of sociopaths or whatever devoid of RKP5637 Jul 2014 #6
Thank goodness for some sanity and justice. sheshe2 Jul 2014 #8
Thank god there are some brains left with the federal judges! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2014 #4
K & Fucking R! William769 Jul 2014 #5
K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2014 #7
Furthermore, the ability of same-sex couples to marry might just prevent dickthegrouch Jul 2014 #9
That is one great ruling. Can we get this guy on the Supreme Court? nt avebury Jul 2014 #10
Odd, innit? gratuitous Jul 2014 #11
beautifully stated! surrealAmerican Jul 2014 #12
LOL, I love this. Make them look like idiots! Perfect! n-t Logical Jul 2014 #13
Kicking. nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #14
LOL! theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #15
Neither are those against birth control or ED treatment, but that doesn't seem to stop people... jtuck004 Jul 2014 #16
To say nothing of the fact that gay couples can have their own biological children. DRoseDARs Jul 2014 #17
Some are convinced the findings rendered in the Hobby Lobby majority decision were not indepat Jul 2014 #18
plus, the planet does not need any more people lululu Jul 2014 #19
Damn, that was good. Unfortunately, we are dealing with such a volatile for of weapons grade stupid TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #20

sheshe2

(83,785 posts)
3. Yay!
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 06:23 PM
Jul 2014

The comment from Judge Heyburn

'are not those of serious people'
That is true but let me take it a step further. Their arguments are devoid of humanity!

Rock on Kentucky!

Thanks joeybee.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
6. Quite true! We seem to have a number of sociopaths or whatever devoid of
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 06:43 PM
Jul 2014

humanity in positions of power where they do not belong. Fortunately, these federal judges seem human, intelligent and capable of making fair decisions.

dickthegrouch

(3,174 posts)
9. Furthermore, the ability of same-sex couples to marry might just prevent
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 07:40 PM
Jul 2014

a few more unhappy mixed marriages where one party is actually homosexual but hiding it (usually from their own family).

While I have known a few mixed marriages that worked, because they were completely open about it and each partner was free to seek sex outside the marriage, those where one or both partners were closeted have in my experience invariably failed.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. Odd, innit?
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 07:47 PM
Jul 2014

These same old tired arguments, when subjected to a little scrutiny, just sort of fall apart like a tissue at a snot convention. And these aren't the only arguments that happens to from our good friends on the right.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
16. Neither are those against birth control or ED treatment, but that doesn't seem to stop people...
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 08:15 PM
Jul 2014

Just a bunch of Victorian Hillbillies from one side of the fence or the other sticking their overly long and self-righteous noses where they don't belong.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
17. To say nothing of the fact that gay couples can have their own biological children.
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 08:32 PM
Jul 2014

And why aren't we arguing that infertile straight couples should have their marriages annulled? Clearly they aren't contributing to a stable birth rate.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
18. Some are convinced the findings rendered in the Hobby Lobby majority decision were not
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 08:46 PM
Jul 2014

of serious people, but rather of deluded and ideologically rigid religious jerk-faces.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
20. Damn, that was good. Unfortunately, we are dealing with such a volatile for of weapons grade stupid
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 11:39 PM
Jul 2014

that they won't be able to grasp even this level of clarity. Check out some of those comments from these very touched people, thankfully only a few, though those few are super diarrhea mouths enough to pump out the volume of a whole village of idiots.

Perhaps the theocrat is the maximum level of right wing insane. How do they not get that they are the ones trying to use the power of the state to enforce their religion when they howl at the judge for being "activist".

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