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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe solution is not taking off our tops
and showing our breasts to men who think depriving us of reproductive rights is a big joke. If you want to engage in bodily protest, do one that makes sense. SCOTUS and Hobby Lobby seek to deny women access to birth control. The logical response--besides a consumer boycott, legal, and political action--is to go all Lysistrata. At the very least, refuse to have sex with someone who doesn't take your reproductive rights seriously. If he thinks companies have a right to make your reproductive choices or your reaction is "hysterical" or "hair on fire," that is someone who isn't worthy of intimate relations with you.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)BainsBane
(53,034 posts)Response to BainsBane (Original post)
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BainsBane
(53,034 posts)as we've seen today, not that I have sex with any of them. Someone may, however. Or members here may know men who adopt similar attitudes. Regardless, it beats taking off tops, which only incentivizes the men who treat women's rights as trivial.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)explained that they were mostly promoting their careers through looks and sensationalism...). Taking off your top is analagous to the Occupy Wall Street protestors taking their rent money and buying some 1% investment bankers lunch with it. You can't be a serious protestor if you are handing over all your power and assets to those you claim to shun. Makes no sense.
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)some of the people who think the reaction to the SCOTUS ruling is a big joke love the idea of a topless protest.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)although I'm sure there are more threads of that nature...I see what you mean. Parading topless women around is the answer to everything, of course.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)People, especially young people, usually don't look for goodness in their potential sex partners. I imagine just about everyone here has had sex with a crazy asshole.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)I sometimes hear guys complaining about gals who don't date "nice guys (them)," but they sure as hell aren't just looking for niceness in their desired partners. Niceness isn't number one priority for most of us.
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)Those guys are rarely nice. That's just what they say because they don't have a lot of luck with women.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)JI7
(89,250 posts)why they can't get anyone to be with them.
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)I wish those five male justices' wives would give some serious thought to this.
A pre-screening interview, for example:
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)I'm all for your idea, but actually attaining it will be difficult.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)That post made me laugh.
Yeah. Back in the day? Good God. i've got some stories.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)Or maybe that's their problem already.
They sound like people who are deeply ashamed of their natural urges.
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)on this issue.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)tkmorris
(11,138 posts)Unfortunately women continue to be attracted to, and have sex with, utter morons. It baffles me, and they always end up sad and angry, but they do it anyway.
Edited to add: Men do this too. We SHOULD seek out out honest, loyal, intelligent and independent companions but instead we drool after the worst of the lot. We really can be our own worst enemy.
GReedDiamond
(5,313 posts)...and any other other "closely held" CorpoRats who go down that road, I have yet to see!!
Great Post.
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)are the wives of the five justices and the yahoos in charge of Hobby Lobby.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Is drooling in his soup.
JI7
(89,250 posts)<Challenged about his views on sexual morality, Justice Scalia surprised his audience at Harvard University, telling them: "I even take the position that sexual orgies eliminate social tensions and ought to be encouraged." >
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/oct/01/usa.oliverburkeman
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I don't mean that as a figure of speech, I mean this hat really looks like ass.
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)JI7
(89,250 posts)she made to Anita Hill.
wingnuts or total idiots and in most cases both.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Is enough to turn anyone off of sex for good, i should think.
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 2, 2014, 04:53 AM - Edit history (1)
by a long shot.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)It makes no sense to me.
I don't think withholding sex would work either since no decent woman had sex with a rightwing loon anyway. And I think that gets to a basis of why many rightwing loons are so hellbent on controlling women and reproduction. They've admitted this. There aren't enough loons being born. Very few woman are finding old white tea bags attractive. Since we can control our reproduction support ourselves buy propert own business etc.the one advantage to having a relationship with an old rightwing loon had been removed.
Women do not need a man to protect us, support us or feed us. This is the source if the outrageous behavior. There are plenty of men who appreciate us as full human beings. Since the rightwing old men are finding less women who are forced to form relationships with them. They are dying off
So no I won't take my top off. It only encourages creepy loons.
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)and they will use any means to try and reimpose it.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)would work even better.
Why should men be allowed to go topless when women can't? Why should women be subject to topless men that might make women lose their ability to control themselves?
Why should men be guaranteed equal rights if women aren't? And so on...
Or, how about getting rid of gender determinations/articles in legislation, all together and replacing them all with gender neutral descriptions?
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)My guess is that alot of men don't understand enough physiology and how different methods of birth control work. That's why they shrug it off.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)how can they miss not getting something they were never going to get in the first place? All the men (and women) supporting the HL case? Yeah, I wasn't going to be having sex with any of them. And if they decide to change their minds I still won't be having sex with them.
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)partnered with conservative or insensitive men who see the issue very differenltly from those men.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)To not have sex. Seems like that kind of takes care of everything.
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)Just the jerks who don't support women's reproductive freedom..
dilby
(2,273 posts)respect your rights in the first place.
I think a better solution would be for women to stage a no work protest day. Just all women who are offended by this ruling get together and not show up for work for 1 day to show these people what it looks like when they are missing half their workforce.