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kentuck

(111,102 posts)
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 08:49 PM Jul 2014

Ignorance of History, and Its Price (Gary Hart)

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"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it," is usually attributed to George Santayana. Harry Truman's version was: "The only new thing in the world is the history we have not learned." And, in the House of Commons in 1935, Winston Churchill observed: "...that long, dismal catalogue of the fruitlessness of experience and the confirmed unteachability of mankind. Want of foresight, unwillingness to act when action would be simple and effective, lack of clear thinking, confusion of counsel until the emergency comes, until self-preservation strikes its jarring gong-these are the features which constitute the endless repetition of history."

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For, from 1941 onward, U.S. policy in the region was to keep Arabian, Persian, and Iraqi oil out of the hands of the Nazis and then the Soviets. It was, after all, our oil. We overthrew a democratic prime minister of Iran according to that logic and guess what that got us. U.S. policy toward Saudi Arabia has been dominated by oil. And don't think for a minute that the invasion of Iraq wasn't guided in major part by access to oil reserves, though the clever invasion plotters somehow never found it convenient to admit it. (Their charade went like this: "Oil? Gee whiz, is there oil there?&quot

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In part, we cannot learn from history because we are a pragmatic people. We make it up as we go along. Each new day offers a new experience and a new chance to try something different. It is refreshing, but it is also innocent and child-like. But there is little that is truly new and different and the circularity of human experience gives fate the opportunity to come back and bite us.

Had we known Vietnamese history, we would have known the guiding principle to its conflict was nationalism not communist ideology. Had we known Iranian history, we would have known the people wanted self-determination not an oligarchical shah. Had we known Russian history, we would have known the critical importance of Crimea's ports to Russia's access to the sea. Had we known Middle Eastern history, we would have known the deep territorial and theological divide between Sunni and Shia for more than 13 centuries.


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Ignorance of History, and Its Price (Gary Hart) (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2014 OP
Gary Hart is a great Democrat. Octafish Jul 2014 #1
The "Gary HART" reference I got from this was his "Follow me" thing UTUSN Jul 2014 #2

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
1. Gary Hart is a great Democrat.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 09:47 PM
Jul 2014

Wish more were like him today. The guy blasted the living daylights out of the Secret Government when he was on the Church Committee, part of the subcommittee investigating the assassination of President Kennedy. They paid him back, Big Time, with the nice weekend voyage of Monkey Business.

UTUSN

(70,706 posts)
2. The "Gary HART" reference I got from this was his "Follow me" thing
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 10:30 PM
Jul 2014

which is uncomfortably close to President OBAMA's "So sue me."

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