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Cancel womens' right to vote based on the Bible? re:Pittsburgh Post Gazette LTTE. (Original Post) AlinPA Jul 2014 OP
Poe? Sadly probably not.... nt whatthehey Jul 2014 #1
Good luck to you and the Cubs, Bob Warpy Jul 2014 #2
Did you have to bring up the Cubs, Warpy? Brigid Jul 2014 #7
Sorry about that Warpy Jul 2014 #15
Smackdown Argument WovenGems Jul 2014 #3
What sort of case would you bring forward to get the Supreme Court to hear that lawsuit? el_bryanto Jul 2014 #4
or, to normal people, it's just unconscionable bronze age bullshit whatthehey Jul 2014 #8
I think I'm being chastised. el_bryanto Jul 2014 #10
One tactic they have is voting against ENDA, which they have in nearly every Congress since the Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #13
Yes, they'd have to amend the constitution to get civil rights stripped from women Warpy Jul 2014 #17
I hope this guy is joking... derby378 Jul 2014 #5
More evidence that SCOTUS did NOT explore all the possible results. L0oniX Jul 2014 #6
I still think they started with what they wanted and worked backwords el_bryanto Jul 2014 #12
Is this guy for real? Brigid Jul 2014 #9
The Bible says "beat swords into plowshares". Repeal 2nd Amendment and outlaw and destroy guns. DetlefK Jul 2014 #11
That is some major league trolling hack89 Jul 2014 #14
What is this shit? shenmue Jul 2014 #16
Am I the only one who read it and realized the LTTE was sarcastic? CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #18
Nope! WinkyDink Jul 2014 #21
I posted the link because of the sarcasm of the writer. AlinPA Jul 2014 #22
Apparently even real newspapers have trolls Calista241 Jul 2014 #19
It's a JOKE. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #20
The crazy runs through it ... GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #23

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
2. Good luck to you and the Cubs, Bob
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 10:18 AM
Jul 2014

If you try to strip of us the human rights we fought for and won, you will taste the poison in your dinner.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
15. Sorry about that
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 11:22 AM
Jul 2014

It used to be "good luck to you and the Red Sox" because the Red Sox would be close to winning the playoffs and choke, year after year, proof of an orderly universe. Then they started to win things and Bostonians were torn between pride for the home team and the loss of predictability in their lives.

At least the Cubs are still predictable. Treasure it. You would feel the loss as keenly as I do.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
4. What sort of case would you bring forward to get the Supreme Court to hear that lawsuit?
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 10:19 AM
Jul 2014

I guess you would have to have a town or a county pass a local law taking away the right of women to vote, and then get it challenged in the courts? But even then, if the Supreme Court heard it and if they approved the law it still wouldn't go to the federal right of women to vote.

Bryant

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
8. or, to normal people, it's just unconscionable bronze age bullshit
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 10:25 AM
Jul 2014

that should be so far from relying on jurisdictional niceties to avoid being seriously considered as to be invisible from sanity, along with pretty much any other biblical codswallop vomited gleefully up to take advantage of SCOTUS' incipient theocracy.

But it's ok as long as there are some legal obstacles clinging on by the fingernails eh?

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
10. I think I'm being chastised.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 10:27 AM
Jul 2014

I do think that the Hobby Lobby Case was decided wrongly. I'm just interested in how such proposals (like this one or the one about burning witch's or the one about no longer hiring women) would actually proceed. What tactics would those who want to see more theocratic government use?

Bryant

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. One tactic they have is voting against ENDA, which they have in nearly every Congress since the
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 10:53 AM
Jul 2014

70's, in one form or another. They demand the right to discriminate for decades, now recently they are upping the ante asking to be allowed to refuse service to LGBT people on 'religious grounds' and of course, refusing to follow the regulations about Federal Contractors not discriminating.
The entire basis of all discrimination against LGBT people is religious. That's the whole of it. The opposition is organized religion, much like organized crime, multigenerational and with tactics suited to those always in power and thus enabled to play the long game.
The same crowd has opposed the ERA ratification for decades. Long game, then endgame.
If you establish that 'The Bible Says It' is the foundation for law, then face it, the NT says women must be subservient to all men and submissive to her husband, silent in gatherings, modestly dressed and never must a woman have authority over a man. It's Biblical, like being anti gay or not killing babies. The US has freedom of religion, my religion says I can not promote a woman above a man, in fact is says I can not hire any woman. It's religious freedom. It's Biblical.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
17. Yes, they'd have to amend the constitution to get civil rights stripped from women
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 11:23 AM
Jul 2014

and good luck to them getting 3/4 of the states to ratify that abomination, women still able to vote until and unless it passed.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
5. I hope this guy is joking...
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 10:22 AM
Jul 2014

My religious belief says that the Bible didn't say that, since it's a book. Paul might have said that, but hey, I didn't see him in the Gospels discoursing with Jesus on the Mount of Olives, did I?

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
6. More evidence that SCOTUS did NOT explore all the possible results.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 10:23 AM
Jul 2014

Some of them may have said ...fuck it ...were doing this anyway ...and that's what I think they did.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
12. I still think they started with what they wanted and worked backwords
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 10:28 AM
Jul 2014

Which is why the decision is so confusingly written and argued. That is one of the many things wrong with this decision.

They clearly wanted to say "Yes Hobby Lobby gets what they want, but we don't want this to lead any place that would be embarrassing."

Bryant

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
18. Am I the only one who read it and realized the LTTE was sarcastic?
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 11:48 AM
Jul 2014

I know so many love to comment without actually reading the article and I guess some could read it and think it was sincere. If they were kind of slow or something.

Seems to me an obvious skewering of the SC's awful HL decision.

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