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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 02:30 PM Apr 2012

"Food Stamp" Jobs Just Like I Thought

50% of the jobs created in the last six months were low paying. Welcome to the Reagan service sector economy that he crowed about in 1981. Good jobs now pay $10 or less. The GOP believes that those are good jobs. Now go down and apply for food stamps.

The anti union, anti labor and anti government regulation that workers keep voting for has brought this economy to the country. And the GOP plan to make it worse. You cannot blame Obama for this situation because he inherited 30 years of "tinkle down" economics. He was saddle by a generation of economists who only knew that theory.

What bothers me most is that everything that I believed about what the GOP was doing is coming true. There was not a thing hat I could have done except watch it happen. Each election cycle was torture.

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"Food Stamp" Jobs Just Like I Thought (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Apr 2012 OP
A 35 year old guy I know just recently got a job SoCalDem Apr 2012 #1
Yeah. progressoid Apr 2012 #2
"customer service" at a bowling alley these days is SoCalDem Apr 2012 #5
A contractor once told me: Turbineguy Apr 2012 #12
Freudian Post O' The Decade!!! KamaAina Apr 2012 #3
Like the Judge Judy book title, 'Don't Pee on My Leg and Tell Me It's Raining' freshwest Apr 2012 #4
Not Freudian at all - it's a meme, courtesy of Jim Hightower starroute Apr 2012 #10
those trumpeting the 'recovery' aren't the ones taking the crappy paying jobs. KG Apr 2012 #6
Hmmmmm.. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #14
Thats really effing sad. Iliyah Apr 2012 #7
My grandson is married with three children, manages a liquor store, gets food stamps, medical jwirr Apr 2012 #8
With that, I'll have a drink! Fuddnik Apr 2012 #9
Big Business doesn't have to pay a fair wage knowing that the taxpayers WCGreen Apr 2012 #11
That has always been true - as a mother on AFDC I could take lower wages in the 60s because I jwirr Apr 2012 #13
That's a key point that a lot of people miss & that the media or politicians never touch on. CrispyQ Apr 2012 #17
Is the argument, then, that the absence of these programs would result in higher wages? LiberalAndProud Apr 2012 #16
You could look at it that way... WCGreen Apr 2012 #19
I think of under-employment every time I see the unemployment numbers phantom power Apr 2012 #15
And that is the whole problem with work in the modern world. jwirr Apr 2012 #18
There was not a thing that I could have done except watch it happen ... NNN0LHI Apr 2012 #20

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
1. A 35 year old guy I know just recently got a job
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 02:37 PM
Apr 2012

He has one kid, is married and has some college.

They rent a mediocre apartment and have ONE car (an old-ish one)

The job?

"customer service" at a bowling alley.

He had been out of work for at least 6 months and they have been living on handouts from family & the wife's job.

NO health insurance

the sad part is that he was happy to get this job..a job that in past times would have been the perfect after-school job for 16 yr old.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
5. "customer service" at a bowling alley these days is
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 03:54 PM
Apr 2012

cleaning up vomit in a bathroom
collecting trash after bowlers leave
spraying disinfectant in rental shoes

just the kind of crappy teen-job stuff that can sometimes focus a kid on how important that education may just be..but now those jobs are ADULT jobs..for adults who have family responsibilities

A friend of mine in high school was "forced" to do menial labor at his Dad's car dealership. He hated mopping floors, cleaning toilets etc. His Dad told him that without good grades & college those are the jobs he would have as an adult, because when he (Dad) got older he planned to SELL the dealership & move away with Mom...and he did just that

One son became a pharmacist..the other a lawyer

Turbineguy

(37,365 posts)
12. A contractor once told me:
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 05:34 PM
Apr 2012

"Don't look too good with that shovel in your hand, you'll be digging ditches your whole life!"

Now I ask, "Do I supply my own shovel?"

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
4. Like the Judge Judy book title, 'Don't Pee on My Leg and Tell Me It's Raining'
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 03:36 PM
Apr 2012

This is a meme that needs to be exploited!

Tinkle-nomics! The GOP's model for the U.S.A. for more than 30 years! How's that working out for ya, America?

starroute

(12,977 posts)
10. Not Freudian at all - it's a meme, courtesy of Jim Hightower
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 05:12 PM
Apr 2012
http://www.thenation.com/blog/159999/end-tinkle-down-economics

End 'Tinkle Down' Economics
Katrina vanden Heuvel on April 18, 2011

For thirty years, we've been treated to the big whopper that cutting taxes on the rich creates jobs. Let's get real. Trickle-down—or, as my good friend Jim Hightower likes to call it, tinkle-down economics—hasn't worked. Case closed. After George W. cut taxes for his rich pals, far fewer jobs were created than after President Bill Clinton raised them in the 1990s.


http://www.csindy.com/colorado/tinkle-down-economics-and-jobs-act/Content?oid=2450191

Tinkle-down economics and JOBS Act
Lowdown
by Jim Hightower

Hallelujah, Washington has finally heard the people's cries for jobs! In an urgent bipartisan push, Democrats and Republicans have passed the JOBS Act.

At last, jobs for all, right? Well — not right away. Certainly not for all. Maybe none.

You see, the new law itself doesn't create a single job for the tens of millions of unemployed and underemployed workers in our land of the rich. . . .

It's just another "tinkle-down" economic scam written by and for Wall Street fraudsters. The law makes it easier for them to raise cash for their new business schemes by deceiving investors about the risk of losses, the true financial condition of the enterprise, and the amount of capital being raked off by executives.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
7. Thats really effing sad.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 04:26 PM
Apr 2012

But this is the GOP/Corporations master plan. Don't ya see what they are doing in states that are controlled by the GOP? Anti-Union, Anti-Voter rights, shit anti-AMERICAN......and they truly hate women as well.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
8. My grandson is married with three children, manages a liquor store, gets food stamps, medical
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 04:38 PM
Apr 2012

assistance, and his wife works as one of his clerks. She is going to college to be a preschool teacher and he is thinking of going to college but does not know what to go for. I have told him that the problem is that he is working at one of the recession proof jobs. He agreed and said that when things get worse people tend to drink more. Not a good thing but seems to be true.

We are truly in troubel when there seems to be no incentive to go to college and more to drink.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
9. With that, I'll have a drink!
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 05:05 PM
Apr 2012

It's 5:00 already!

And maybe fix my wife some dinner while I'm at it.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
11. Big Business doesn't have to pay a fair wage knowing that the taxpayers
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 05:30 PM
Apr 2012

will subsidize the workers with public assistance.

Well, that is, until the GOP gets rid of those programs...

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
13. That has always been true - as a mother on AFDC I could take lower wages in the 60s because I
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 05:35 PM
Apr 2012

got help. The problem the businesses have always thought it was me getting subsidized. They never saw the benefit for them in it.

CrispyQ

(36,509 posts)
17. That's a key point that a lot of people miss & that the media or politicians never touch on.
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 12:10 PM
Apr 2012
The problem the businesses have always thought it was me getting subsidized. They never saw the benefit for them in it.




LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
16. Is the argument, then, that the absence of these programs would result in higher wages?
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 10:45 AM
Apr 2012

I tend to think people would just go hungry. Business would continue to pay what the market will allow.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
19. You could look at it that way...
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 01:34 AM
Apr 2012

But you have to remember that the "market" adjusts as long as there is competition.

When there is no competitive pressure, the market pricing would then rely almost exclusively on desire and need.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
15. I think of under-employment every time I see the unemployment numbers
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 10:34 AM
Apr 2012

Unemployment has gone from 9.1% to 8.2% (still way high), but how many of these new jobs are good ones?

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
20. There was not a thing that I could have done except watch it happen ...
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 07:20 AM
Apr 2012

Have to agree, it truly has been like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

Seen it coming and there was nothing I could do to prevent it.

Tried explaining people what was going on but they just didn't want to believe it.

And the rich get richer.

Don

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