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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHas anyone heard of or seen this movie "Thrive"? It seems to be popping up everywhere.
I haven't seen it, but I just now checked out the website.
Oh my.
I have a ton of new-agey friends, and I hear a lot of weird things, and this seems to be out-doing all of them. It makes the Zeitgeist movies seem credible by comparison.
I admit my bias: the front page photo alone was enough to make me discount it. Further clicking only made it worse
So, has anyone seen it? Thoughts? I'm not sure I can watch it, for the same reason I can't watch two hours of FOX
(Edited to add: By "popping up" I mean that friends on Facebook are starting to post links to it)
Edited again to add the link:
http://www.thrivemovement.com/the_movie
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Added now
It seems to be about the secret to unlimited energy, ancient cultures, and aliens
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Jumping John
(930 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)seems a bit Scientology meets the Perpetual Motion Machine to me, but I am not into the whole UFO thing, so YMMV.
The site says you can watch for free - so why not watch it and post a review?
arcane1
(38,613 posts)which is why I don't want to watch it. Hell, browsing the website made my brain hurt enough. Thus I'm lazily looking for someone who did the work for me
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)whom they have identified as the cause of all our ills. I think I will watch the movie tonight and reserve judgement until I see what they have to say. They might have some good ideas in spite of the UFOs.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)take on it. Well, it's fun to watch for the visual scenery and graphic cinematography. So for the first part enjoy the ride past ancient monuments, crop circles and UFOlogy. Then he gets down to the nitty gritty of how the big dirty energy entities of oil, coal, nuclear and gas are undermining our sustainability. He does a pyramid of who controls the world and puts a few top fat cats at the top of the pyramid, who control the banks, who control the big industries of Oil, PhRMA, Agro-business and others that we know of who control our politicians and government who control us. This is it roughly. He says that Tesla invented a way to produced free energy from the air so to speak, but that every scientist who has invented a way to do it is shot down by our government and marginalized sometimes even meets death.
I don't know if he's right and even truthful but he posits the right culprits that are undermining our world IMHO. If you watch it tell me if you got the same message out of it.
Prism
(5,815 posts)A progressive think tank went after the movie, and Gamble responded:
http://www.thrivemovement.com/FG-Kelly-Response.blog
Towards the very end of the movie (I don't know if you made it that far), Gamble goes on a Randian jag about how we should all basically be libertarians. At first, the movie seemed somewhat harmless. Full of woo, sure. But its anti-corporate message was ok, a few good progressives had nice things to say, and while it was heavily laden with conspiracy theory, I figured it was suitably innocuous and pointless.
Then the end comes, in all its right-wing glory.
My neck still hurts from the jerking swivel I did when he made that sharp turn. I still can't quite figure out how he went from A to B. I researched online to make sure I heard right, and sure enough, his response at that link is as right-wing libertarian as it gets.
Taxes are theft? The hell . . .
Cleita
(75,480 posts)I didn't see the libertarian rant but I'm not surprised cause he does come from old corporate money.
hatrack
(59,592 posts)Equal parts woo, wishful thinking and "theories" about free dark matter energy.
Feh.
libra super moon
(8 posts)Was Albert Einstein "woo?" Opening your frigging mind, dewd! Here are some "woo" quotes of Einstein:
"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind."
"Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble."
"The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift."
"The scientists religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection."
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)somewhere among the billions of galaxies in the universe. I don't doubt that far, far more efficient forms of extracting energy from nature will eventually be found, making it seem almost free compared to our current technology. But regarding the speculation about flying saucer people having visited the earth over the centuries, leaving clues about energy-extracting technology in ancient monuments and modern crop circles is something I won't entertain without very extensive hard evidence. This video seems to want to make some kind of political statement but it leaves me suspicious, almost as suspicious as I get of the petitions of one kind or another always being shoved in my face every time I go to the store in California. I guess I'm the suspicious kind.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Even regarding the petitions. Ever since that phony "legalize pot" petition years ago, I've been wary of signing anything unless it's online and proven legit.
If aliens walk among us, they are standing on city sidewalks carrying clipboards
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)nature and attributes all kinds of happening to it. that's what I got out of 5 minutes of it anyway.
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)It can't be a short enough time for me.
libra super moon
(8 posts)Are you angry at God for something? Or is it that you think you are the Creator of all? LOL- you can't even hold in your shit for 36 hours!
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)tjwash
(8,219 posts)hatrack
(59,592 posts)What an amazing wagonload of tripe.
Thanks, L. Ron - where would we be without you?!?!?
provis99
(13,062 posts)he reminds me of the Raelians.
Prism
(5,815 posts)I have a patient whose mother is into just about every bit of New Age woo there is. She's very nice and . . . insane. She's the kind of person who's always sneering about "straight medicine" while that two months long ear infection that she refuses to treat is clearly cause by something floating around from other people's subconscious. Unfortunately, she inflicts her woo on her disabled son as much as possible, so while I was at work, she hostaged us into viewing this film.
I kept leaning over to say "Cosmology doesn't work like that. No, crop circles are proven hoaxes. No, his history is completely wrong."
Oh my. She was having none of it. This little old woman was about to throw down over crop circles.
It's just, just awful. It regurgitates the Ancient Aliens woo and then ends on some kind of really weird libertarian call to arms. It's incredibly illiberal by the end and total bugfuck crazy.
This is a good blog giving you the rundown:
http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/the-first-partial-debunking-of-the-full-length-thrive-movie/
libra super moon
(8 posts)Huh? Spit it out. Thought so.