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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 05:22 AM Apr 2012

This Is What Happens When You Accuse A Notre Dame Football Player Of Sexually Assaulting You


Last week, the National Catholic Reporter published a lengthy piece on reported sexual assaults at Notre Dame. Its fulcrum is the case involving Lizzy Seeberg, a 19-year-old freshman at nearby St. Mary's College who committed suicide in September 2010, just 10 days after she was allegedly sexually assaulted by a Notre Dame football player. That case led the civil rights office of the U.S. Department of Education to launch a seven-month investigation of Notre Dame that last summer resulted in a settlement agreement.

The Seeberg case is awful enough, but according to a former school administrator whose own daughter says she was raped 10 years ago, "They"—Notre Dame—"do a poor job in general." The takeaway from the NCR story—written by Melinda Henneberger, a political reporter for the Washington Post and a 1980 Notre Dame graduate—is that Seeberg wasn't the first woman to be put through the university's meat grinder after making a sexual-assault accusation.And judging by Henneberger's reporting, she won't be the last.

The smear about Seeberg was that she was "a troubled girl" who had "done this before" (according to friends and family members of a "long-serving trustee" at Notre Dame). She was "the aggressor" (according to the accused player's lawyer, a Notre Dame alum). She was "all over the boy" (according to a "top university official" at Notre Dame). After reporting the alleged assault to campus police, Seeberg was told by a friend of the football player: "Don't do anything you would regret. Messing with Notre Dame football is a bad idea." No charges were filed. Notre Dame police didn't interview the player—who was never disciplined by the school or the football program—until five days after Seeberg killed herself. Later, they told the family they weren't sure when they could follow up. "They said they were pretty busy," said Lizzy's mother, Mary, told Henneberger, "because it's football season and there's a lot of underage drinking."
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On Nov. 21, 2010, the Chicago Tribune first reported Seeberg's allegation, subsequent suicide, and Notre Dame's silence on the matter. But that day, Notre Dame football coach Brian Kelly made a joke in a conference call with reporters about the Tribune's ability to afford having dedicated so many resources to the story. There eventually was a campus disciplinary hearing for the player accused of sexually assaulting Seeberg in February 2011, but he was found "not responsible." (One of the more damning passages in Henneberger's piece includes a quote from Pat Cottrell, a retired Notre Dame security officer who specialized in sexual assault cases: "Just a regular Joe, if they were working a job on campus, I could go there and say, ‘Hey, I need to talk to you.'" But when an athlete is involved, he said, 'if they don't respond, they don't respond, and that makes it harder to do your job.' Notre Dame's statement said athletes get no special treatment, and police shouldn't in any case have to go through the Athletic Department.&quot
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Much more: http://deadspin.com/5897809/this-is-what-happens-when-you-accuse-a-notre-dame-football-player-of-sexually-assaulting-you


Those are some nasty echoes.....




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This Is What Happens When You Accuse A Notre Dame Football Player Of Sexually Assaulting You (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Apr 2012 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Typical NYC Lib Apr 2012 #1
Monkey justice. See no evil, hear no evil . . . . ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2012 #2
Surprised they didn't ship her off to the Magdalene Laundries. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #3
A former ND player who continued his career in the NFL was a dental student of mine... PCIntern Apr 2012 #4
Who cares about campus discipline. Why wasn't there a civil trial? nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #5
My experience with a Notre Dame graduate has not been the best. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #6
Campus police suck at dealing with sexual assualt pretty much across the board, no matter the Brickbat Apr 2012 #7
FUCK COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!! Odin2005 Apr 2012 #8
Hell with football. Dawson Leery Apr 2012 #9
All too common at schools where football is second only to God. MineralMan Apr 2012 #10

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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
3. Surprised they didn't ship her off to the Magdalene Laundries.
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 06:32 AM
Apr 2012

Fuck them all, the pious, football-obsessed bastards.

PCIntern

(25,576 posts)
4. A former ND player who continued his career in the NFL was a dental student of mine...
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 06:54 AM
Apr 2012

From his conversations with us, it was clear that he was ranked above the President of the University in the pecking order. Presidents can be replaced....starring Tight ends of his ability, well that's much harder.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
7. Campus police suck at dealing with sexual assualt pretty much across the board, no matter the
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 12:30 PM
Apr 2012

institution, and no matter who the perp is. I know large universities want to protect their athletic programs, but I've seen assaults get covered up at small private institutions that don't have any national attention for athletics as well.

MineralMan

(146,325 posts)
10. All too common at schools where football is second only to God.
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 01:34 PM
Apr 2012

Very sad commentary on the function of a University, I think. If only football players are protected, that leaves the vast bulk of the student body without any protection. It is not right.

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