UN Official Calls Out David Gregory For Using Unconfirmed Israeli Propaganda Video

[Uncle Joe]

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/07/un-official-calls-out-david-gregory-using

NBC host David Gregory was forced to issue a correction at the end of his weekly "Meet the Press" program on Sunday after a United Nations official confronted him for using a unconfirmed Israeli video that allegedly showed Hamas shooting rockets from a UN school.

(snip)

"Is this accurate?" Gregory asked. "Could this be happening without the UN's knowledge, that would only bolster the prime minister's point that, in fact, Hamas is using civilians, using the United Nations even in a kind of propaganda war."

Gunness found the notion that he was being made to respond to a unconfirmed video that he couldn't even see so ridiculous that he could barely contain laughter.

"Look, to be fair to me, to bring me on a live program and expect me to comment live on air on pictures I haven't actually seen, I think anyone looking at this program would agree that's really unfair," Gunness insisted. "I mean, if I can see it, I'll happily comment on it."

At the conclusion of the program, Gregory said that the United Nations had "confirmed that the video does not show rockets being fired from a UN-administrated school in Gaza."

Video and more information is on the link.

[femmocrat]

1. Could this be the final nail in his "coffin"???

One can hope!

[Uncle Joe]

2. I don't believe it bothers his corporate masters.

I'm pretty certain Gregory will be replaced but it will just be another face with the same mentality or slanted political point of view, basically rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

It would be nice if they hired Phil Donahue but as corporations have no soul or real conscious, I doubt that will happen.

[awoke_in_2003]

6. I doubt it...

the news has become what Don Hendley said in the 80s- full of bubble headed bleach blondes.

[zeemike]

22. Added for context.

In case they don't know about that song.

Don Hendley is on my list of most admired musicians.

[awoke_in_2003]

24. Thanks

the work firewall prevents me from accessing youtube.

[AlinPA]

3. David Gregory is a slob. How did that pig get that job?

[Uncle Joe]

4. They were looking for someone who would enjoy dancing with Karl Rove on the dance floor and for

him on Sunday Morning television.

I'm just surprised Gregory didn't start stripping and singing "Happy Birthday" Mr. Rove, in his best Marilyn Monroe voice.

[AlinPA]

7. He looks like he is love with Rove and his politics.

[Uncle Joe]

9. That's because he is. n/t

[Fawke Em]

13. I never noticed Colin Mochrie in that video before.

That sucks because I really like him.

[spanone]

5. he's journalistically worthless. he needs to be replaced.

as do those who promoted him to that position.

they couldn't have been more wrong

[Uncle Joe]

10. It's all public relations with them, they don't fundamentally disagree with Gregory even today,

the only reason they're considering replacing him is because his slanted, ineptitude is becoming too apparent to the public.

I'm pretty certain the face will change but the overall philosophy will remain the same, it will be the same product, just a new brand.

[Ghost of Tom Joad]

20. Yeah and they would probably replace him with

Luke Russert

[tech3149]

38. As the old saying goes

The best part of Luke Russert dripped down his daddy's leg. And his daddy wasn't all that special.

[Evergreen Emerald]

8. Ya know, it's the producers who create the show

He agrees to be a megaphone for the right, but the producers and writers create the show, choose the guests and videos .

The problem will not end with Gregory gone. It is superficial for management to believe the problem is just Gregory.

[Uncle Joe]

11. I agree, Evergreen Emerald.

[Fla Dem]

12. As the person who actually has to go on air and discuss the issues, he has plenty to say

about what goes on his show. Gregory will let his producers know what he wants to discuss and the slant. They then produce what he has asked for. They have pre production meetings where everything is gone over and discussed. He is not innocent.

[Uncle Joe]

14. I agree, Fla Dem but the producers know what kind of person, they hire in the first place.

So whatever the on air person wishes to discuss or slant will fall within the producers comfort zone.

We're not saying that Gregory is innocent, he and his ilk are just pre-ordained.

That's why you will not see them hire Phil Donahue.

P.S. The producers have been pre-ordained by their corporate owners as well, it's all designed to fall within the corporate domination comfort zone.

[Evergreen Emerald]

33. He is not innocent... But he may only be the on air talent and not have much of a say

Rather than the producer writer. It depends on the type of show. Generally news talent are readers and not producers.

[Cali_Democrat]

15. What a tool!

[WillyT]

16. The Usual Propaganda... Is Starting To Become Ineffective... What Happens Next Will Be Interesting

[Uncle Joe]

19. I believe the Internet; is what's happening next, and that's why they're fighting it.

When the people start disseminating information for themselves from the bottom up, almost instantaneously and en-mass, that scares the urine out of the top down, authoritarian corporate model.

Peace to you, WillyT,

[nilesobek]

17. The anchors are virtually interchangeable.

Background noise that is useless and harmful except to warn for hurricanes, tornadoes or other national alerts. I can't remember the last time I knew or cared which anchor worked for which network.

[Uncle Joe]

25. I believe your post deserves a theme song, nilesobek.

[Jefferson23]

18. He is going to lose his job..boo hoo.He never learned how to cloak it well to come off as impartial.

I wonder who will hire him. I am so pleased he got called out.

K&R

[Uncle Joe]

27. I agree, Jefferson, Gregory's major problem was his inability to "cloak" it's like the

corporate media believes "sincerity is everything and when you've learned how to fake that, you've got it made."

[Jefferson23]

32. I think so, and he has the added problem of coming off uninformed..this is aside from his right

leaning slant. So to me, that makes him look even worse than a Brit Hume..at least that
guy knows why he is a Republican...he knows the policies.

[kentuck]

36. When Russert passed away...

the execs were looking for someone to take his place and asked if anyone interested could stand up... they chose Gregory... He was so tall they thought he was standing. It was all a mistake from the beginning.

[bigtree]

21. his conclusion was ludicrous

“So this is a back and forth that we are not able to settle at this point,” Gregory said.

It's settled, alright. There is no proof and the UN isn't a biased source that he can us for his equivalency ploy.

[Uncle Joe]

28. With Gregory, it's like gravity and other complex issues, pehaps one day

shit will flow uphill, so it's not settled yet.

[LiberalArkie]

23. Ever since Spivak, MTP has been the corp mouthpiece

[DeSwiss]

26. Gregory's in a panic now.......

...since Page Six has declared his body dead.

- Brain-death isn't determinable for teevee personalities, for the obvious reasons......

K&R

[BillZBubb]

29. David, Fox News is on the line...

Your next gig and you won't have to hide who you are.

[Uncle Joe]

34. I would be surprised if they didn't hire him, should Gregory actually be fired from NBC. n/t

[Blue Idaho]

30. What a complete dick head.

I have no idea how he still manages to collect a paycheck as a "news" personality. I refuse to call him a journalist - no way he deserves that title.

[GP6971]

31. I sure hope so. n/t

[oberliner]

35. If Hamas isn't shooting rockets from in or near schools...

Then why are schools being hit by the Israeli side?

[Uncle Joe]

37. I don't know, oberliner, perhaps it's just mowing the lawn or ethnic cleansing, whatever you want to

call it.

On a thread by muriel_volestrangler.

http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/10025293517

(snip)

Israel received another blow on 2 June, when a new Palestinian Authority government was inaugurated, following the April reconciliation agreement between Hamas and Fatah. Hamas endorsed the new government even though it was given no cabinet posts and the government’s composition and political programme were virtually indistinguishable from its predecessor’s. With barely a protest from the Islamists, Abbas repeatedly and loudly proclaimed that the government accepted the Middle East Quartet’s demands: that it recognise Israel, renounce violence and adhere to past agreements. He also announced that Palestinian security forces in the West Bank would continue their security collaboration with Israel. When both Washington and Brussels signalled their intention to co-operate with the new government, alarm bells went off in Israel. Its usual assertions that Palestinian negotiators spoke only for themselves – and would therefore prove incapable of implementing any agreement – had begun to look shaky: the Palestinian leadership could now claim not only to represent both the West Bank and the Gaza Strip but also to have co-opted Hamas into supporting a negotiated two-state settlement, if not the Oslo framework as a whole. There might soon be increased international pressure on Israel to negotiate seriously with Abbas. The formaldehyde was beginning to evaporate.

At this point Netanyahu seized on the 12 June disappearance of three young Israelis in the West Bank like a drowning man thrown a lifebelt. Despite clear evidence presented to him by the Israeli security forces that the three teenagers were already dead, and no evidence to date that Hamas was involved, he held Hamas directly responsible and launched a ‘hostage rescue operation’ throughout the West Bank. It was really an organised military rampage. It included the killing of at least six Palestinians, none of whom was accused of involvement in the disappearances; mass arrests, including the arrest of Hamas parliamentarians and the re-arrest of detainees released in 2011; the demolition of a number of houses and the looting of others; and a variety of other depredations of the kind Israel’s finest have honed to perfection during decades of occupation. Netanyahu whipped up a demagogic firestorm against the Palestinians, and the subsequent abduction and burning alive of a Palestinian teenager in Jerusalem cannot and should not be separated from this incitement.
...
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n15/mouin-rabbani/israel-mows-the-lawn

On a thread by WillyT

http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/10025290438

A Refreshingly Open Call For Ethnic Cleansing Of Palestinians From An Israeli Deputy Speaker - RS

Ok. Back to the fun stuff. Feiglin wrote an op-ed on Tuesday http://www.jewishisrael.org/outline-solution-israels-gaza-problem-moshe-feiglin/?utm_source=Moshe%20Feiglin%27s%20Outline%20for%20Solution%20in%20Gaza&utm_campaign=update&utm_medium=email in which he revealed his hopes and dreams for the future of Israel and the demise of Palestinians in Gaza. The headline is “My Outline for a Solution in Gaza.” And the subheadline reads “Clear and concise, the steps towards achieving quiet in Gaza.” I was immediately impressed by his candor in aspiring towards quiet, not peace. Peace, which requires an end to fighting, is such a cliche. But quiet, which can be achieved through muzzling, silencing, or killing, is so much better. Think about how much better it sounds. “We will have quiet, we will because we must…” “All we are saying, is give quiet a chance…” “What’s so funny about quiet, love and understanding?” ”No justice, no quiet!”

Feiglin doesn’t mince his words. In fact, he puts his demands in bold, literally and metaphorically. And his seven lofty quiet-achieving goals are:

1.Ultimatum
2.Attack
3.Siege
4.Defense (because why not?)
5.Conquer
6.Elimination
7.Sovereignty

Two things are for certain regarding the rockets.

1. Israel's Iron Dome has been very effective.

2. The rockets are very crude if not extremely ineffective.

So you have to ask yourself is it worth blowing up a school, potentially killing innocent civilians, men, women and children because of such a low potential threat?

Logic dictates to me that only if you wish to eliminate in one form or another the peoples from that region, if not by killing them, then by degrading their society to such a point that you drive them away.

[freshwest]

41. Just went through a lot of that guy's writings at the last link. The dude is batshit crazy!

[stranger81]

43. Yes, yes he is. But he's also Deputy Speaker of the Knesset.

[freshwest]

46. Their own Tea Party Taliban, like here. It's catering to religious fanaticism.

Fortunately, he does have opposition in the Knesset, who he attacks in his articles. It's going to be hard slog to tame these wackjobs.

Religion looks forward to the destruction of the world... Perhaps half aware that its unsupported arguments are not entirely persuasive, and perhaps uneasy about its own greedy accumulation of temporal power and wealth, religion has never ceased to proclaim the Apocalypse and the day of judgment.

~ Christopher Hitchens

I've come to the uneasy conclusion it's about greed for money or power (or territory which is natural, as animals kill each other for it) and not religion. That's just the cover story and this guy is a con-man, but the first person he fooled was himself, most likely.

I find any cult, whether it is ideological, economic or religion that plans to take over the world, like some from the Hamas side just as wrong, for the exact same reason.

JMHO.

[Babel_17]

39. A case in point of how our biased media can make you more ignorant.

One shouldn't walk away from watching such a program being ill informed.

[COLGATE4]

40. To be accurate, the UN official was calling

Gregory out for showing a video which the UN official had not previously seen and then asked him to comment on.

[Uncle Joe]

44. That's true and then the UN confirmed that the video does not show rockets being fired

from a UN-administrated school in Gaza.

At the conclusion of the program, Gregory said that the United Nations had "confirmed that the video does not show rockets being fired from a UN-administrated school in Gaza."

As it turned out it was false propaganda to boot.

[COLGATE4]

45. My point was only that the headline

was misleading.

[Uncle Joe]

48. A distinction without a difference, if the UN Official couldn't view the video it was De Facto

unconfirmed, even Gregory admitted the video was taken off youtube, there was no confirmation.

[TBF]

42. This has gone on long enough from Gregory -

this asshole needs to be fired.

[Rex]

47. Well to be fair, it is not like we should expect the M$M to do anything ethical.

Infotainment (which is ALL the M$M) is about ratings and bringing in sponsorship money. You want real news, turn off the TV and go listen to NPR on the radio. About as close as you are going to get.