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demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 07:12 PM Apr 2012

Poor sweet girl. Santorum has no chance, he should just stop and take care and enjoy his daughter

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/trisomy-18-spotlight-following-bella-santorum-hospitalization-222756856.html


There is speculation (though no confirmation) that the hospitalization of Rick Santorum's three-year-old daughter, Isabella, is related to Trisomy 18, the rare genetic condition she suffers from.

News of Bella's sudden hospitalization sent off a massive number of searches for Trisomy 18. Over the course of just one hour, Yahoo! searches for "trisomy 18" surged 1,022%. Related lookups for "trisomy 18 syndrome" spiked 375%.

According to experts, Trisomy 18 is often fatal. According to an organization dedicated to raising awareness, the disorder occurs about 1 in every 3,000 live births. The condition's name refers to when a baby has three number 18 chromosomes.
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Poor sweet girl. Santorum has no chance, he should just stop and take care and enjoy his daughter (Original Post) demtenjeep Apr 2012 OP
I worked with someone whose child had trisomy 18. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2012 #1
her pictures are so sweet demtenjeep Apr 2012 #2
I wonder who is caring for her now that Karen has joined Rick on the appleannie1 Apr 2012 #3
I read they have a lot of in home care demtenjeep Apr 2012 #9
Damn. That's really sad. blaze Apr 2012 #4
If their is a person I hold in disrespect it would be St.santorum. Still.... wandy Apr 2012 #5
god, that's sad.... CTyankee Apr 2012 #6
+1000.... K Gardner Apr 2012 #7
I hope I never have to go through that demtenjeep Apr 2012 #8
I have to agree- Bluerthanblue Apr 2012 #11
agreed demtenjeep Apr 2012 #13
Frankly, this shouldn't be unexpected from him. Mariana Apr 2012 #22
No kidding. rick, you will never have that child again. Go and be there for her. calimary Apr 2012 #24
... FirstLight Apr 2012 #10
YEs demtenjeep Apr 2012 #12
You don't know they had prenatal testing. Not everyone does. n/t pnwmom Apr 2012 #14
I believe they did demtenjeep Apr 2012 #15
Based on what do you believe it? LisaL Apr 2012 #18
I think he made it very clear he doesn't believe in birth control, let alone abortion. LisaL Apr 2012 #17
Unless you face it personally I don't think you know what you'd do. davsand Apr 2012 #19
Well I am pretty sure that if it was up to Santorum, nobody would have that choice. LisaL Apr 2012 #29
Oh yeah--he really IS a pig and the fact that he's willing to FORCE a pregnancy is huge for me. davsand Apr 2012 #30
He is at the hospital per msnbc. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #16
he has cancelled Monday's activity schedule demtenjeep Apr 2012 #20
I strongly disagree with almost everything Santorum liberalhistorian Apr 2012 #21
Only one thing worse than this situation ... No Health Care cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #23
+1,000,000,000,000,000 calimary Apr 2012 #25
Before we all start crying of how he can't afford health care, he has made millions in recent years. LisaL Apr 2012 #26
Of course he can afford it... cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #27
I really think he is a piece of shit. He KNOWS there is no chance of him winning. He should be demtenjeep Apr 2012 #28

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,829 posts)
1. I worked with someone whose child had trisomy 18.
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 07:17 PM
Apr 2012

The baby was very sick and lived only about a year. Very sad situation. The disorder is similar to Down Syndrome, but with a lot more complications.

appleannie1

(5,068 posts)
3. I wonder who is caring for her now that Karen has joined Rick on the
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 07:28 PM
Apr 2012

campaign trail. This is the second hospitalization in the last couple months.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
9. I read they have a lot of in home care
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 08:29 PM
Apr 2012

it is good they have the wealth to take care of her properly

wandy

(3,539 posts)
5. If their is a person I hold in disrespect it would be St.santorum. Still....
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 07:40 PM
Apr 2012

I can't agree with you more. "he should just stop and take care and enjoy his daughter".
Time/Life is precious. If he truly is a 'man of faith' then he accepts that, 'one can not know the hour......'.
Rickey, you will not be president.
You will not be Americas first Pope.
You will never have that child again.
Take the time.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
6. god, that's sad....
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 07:42 PM
Apr 2012

I am undone by that last line of yours...

take the time, indeed, santorum. before it is too late and you will regret every split second you were not by her side talking with her, holding her hand, and doing your JOB as a father...

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
7. +1000....
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 07:50 PM
Apr 2012

She has done well to live as long as she has... most with T18 don't. I hope she overcomes the pneumonia, still..

You are exactly right. "You will never have that child again." For whatever time they have left.

How many parents have to bury a child and wish for more time...

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
22. Frankly, this shouldn't be unexpected from him.
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 04:57 PM
Apr 2012

It's been said over and over and over again that most anti-choicers are only bothered about fetuses. They don't care about children who've been born. Well, it's true. No one should be surprised by Santorum's behavior toward this child.

calimary

(81,440 posts)
24. No kidding. rick, you will never have that child again. Go and be there for her.
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 06:41 PM
Apr 2012

Take the time with your little girl. You don't know how long (or how briefly) you'll have her in your life.

FirstLight

(13,362 posts)
10. ...
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 09:45 PM
Apr 2012

I have all the compassion for him and that poor child and the suffering they are all going through...but I have a nagging question in my mind

Did they do prenatal testing and KNOW they were going to have a child with this horrible affliction? Did they refuse aborting because of religion? Did he choose to run for Pres even knowing this child had limited time on the planet? Did they consider the torture this little soul is going thru as a result of this life?

I'm sorry for their pain, and the pain of that poor child, but it seems like some priorities are out of whack...

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
18. Based on what do you believe it?
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 02:15 PM
Apr 2012

He made his views on prenatal testing clear. He thinks that prenatal testing leads to abortions. So what exactly makes you believe his wife had prenatal testing?

"The government shouldn't make health care providers fully cover prenatal tests like amniocentesis, which can determine the possibility of Down syndrome or other fetal problems, Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum said Sunday."
http://articles.cnn.com/2012-02-19/politics/politics_santorum-prenatal-testing_1_rick-santorum-prenatal-testing-abortion?_s=PM OLITICS

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
17. I think he made it very clear he doesn't believe in birth control, let alone abortion.
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 02:12 PM
Apr 2012

As I recall he is also against prenatal testing because in his view it leads to more abortions.

davsand

(13,421 posts)
19. Unless you face it personally I don't think you know what you'd do.
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 02:45 PM
Apr 2012

There is nothing about Santorum I find admirable. Having said that, I don't think anybody really knows how they'd respond to the news that the their child is coming into this world with a serious birth defect.

I was born with a cleft palate and cleft lip WAY back when--before genetic testing was available and before ultrasound was commonplace. My parents did everything they could for me, to the point of borrowing money for corrective surgery for me. The financial aspects were a burden for them, but what was more difficult for them, I think, was being a parent to a child that faced that level of medical issues and facing the pain of multiple surgeries. They hurt right along with me. When I went to school and got called a harelip they suffered with me. When I was depressed they endured it too.

When my husband and I dated, I was really up front with him about the fact that I really wasn't sure I wanted to have any kids. I sure as heck did not want to bring a child into this world only to watch them suffer. Ultimately, I went to a geneticist. As he put it, I was older to be having kids, but beyond the "usual" genetic issues that come with advanced maternal age, it was his opinion that our risk of a child having the same issues I do was only slightly elevated beyond normal. His advice was go for it, and if we were worried about it be sure to have amnio done at the earliest possible fetal age--which he expected the docs would suggest anyway given the fact that I was over 35.

With that information, we got married and decided to get pregnant. Knowing that maternal nutrition can play a role in fetal development, I was taking prenatal vitamins before I got pregnant (again--on the advice of the geneticist and the ob-gyn) and I was living as chemical free as possible--exactly like they advise already pregnant women to do. At 16 weeks we had amnio done. I absolutely horrified the doc because I was completely open with him that I had no intention of continuing the pregnancy if the test showed abnormalities. Once he calmed down I explained to him that as a person who has lived with this all my life--and will for the rest of my life--I have an intimate understanding of how it feels and how it impacts on everyone around you. I told him I refuse to bring a child into the world KNOWING it was gonna suffer. His response was equally powerful. He simply asked me if I thought my mother would have made that same decision...

I have a "perfect" daughter. She's a teen with all that comes with it, but there is not a day that goes by that I fail to celebrate her. I still view her as a complete gift to us and to the rest of the world--just as most parents view their kids. Had that test come back with an issue I would not have ever known her. I still feel that I could not birth a child knowing that it was gonna suffer, but I have to admit that it would have been a horrible thing to face and a horrible thing to live with.

I feel for that family and that little girl.




Laura

davsand

(13,421 posts)
30. Oh yeah--he really IS a pig and the fact that he's willing to FORCE a pregnancy is huge for me.
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:10 PM
Apr 2012

I can understand their decision to have that baby (knowing she was gonna suffer.) I disagree with it, but it is not my choice to make for them. It is not his choice to make for me, either.

I hope that poor child does not suffer and I hope he crawls back under his rock REAL soon.




Laura

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
20. he has cancelled Monday's activity schedule
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 04:32 PM
Apr 2012

My heart goes out to that little sweet girl. She must be in such pain.

liberalhistorian

(20,819 posts)
21. I strongly disagree with almost everything Santorum
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 04:51 PM
Apr 2012

believes and stands for, and his breathtaking ignorance regarding history and his anti-intellectualism, particularly considering that he has Ivy League degrees, is especially disturbing and frightening. His hypocrisy and cruelty regarding health care for the majority of Americans is infuriating. He would be an unmitigated disaster as president.

HOWEVER. That has nothing whatsoever to do with his poor child's likely-terminal illness, and the mother in me aches for him and his wife and the rest of their family in having to deal with this and in having to probably endure losing a child, which no one should ever, ever have to go through, I don't care who you are or what you've done. It is truly heartbreaking to see the suffering of such a young child and to know the hell the child's parents must be going through.

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
23. Only one thing worse than this situation ... No Health Care
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 06:28 PM
Apr 2012

and/or be unable to change health care providers to cover his daughter. I've often wondered about his dogged determination to stay in the political landscape knowing he can not be president and given the strain it must be on the entire family...perhaps the health care of his child? The costs would be astronomical.



LisaL

(44,974 posts)
26. Before we all start crying of how he can't afford health care, he has made millions in recent years.
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 06:51 PM
Apr 2012

"Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum, whose humble coal-country biography is central to his political message, made more than $3.6 million in recent years as a Washington consultant and claimed a German luxury sedan as a business expense, according to tax returns released by his campaign."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/santorum-reports-millions-in-income-as-washington-consultant/2012/02/16/gIQAVGknIR_story.html

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
27. Of course he can afford it...
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 07:59 PM
Apr 2012

that was somewhat the point. The little girl has lived much longer than average god bless her, yet it is likely due to the availability of very high priced health care. He has built his income/reputation/wealth on depriving the less fortunate of that he enjoys.



 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
28. I really think he is a piece of shit. He KNOWS there is no chance of him winning. He should be
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 08:25 PM
Apr 2012

with her! She is apparently very sick since they have taken her to the hospital. I say that because they have state of the art equiptment and round the clock nursing to care for her at home so a needed hospital stay is obviously serious.


He should be with HER

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