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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy are Ferguson cops so completely out of control?
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So why are the cops overreacting, when that very overreaction is backfiring on them so badly? They clearly cant help themselves. Thats the only logical explanation. Theyre so overwhelmed by their sense of entitlement to shut the protests down that they cant think straight.
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Time for some blunt talk: Right wing America has spent the past six years passing around paranoid urban legends that push this notion that Obama is trying to organize some secret takeover of the country, often involving fears that conservative white people will be rounded up into camps and other such nonsense. The racist paranoia of this is often subtextual but unmistakeable. Even for conservatives who know that these urban legends are hooey, the narrative that they are trying to take our country away is firmly ensconced. Its part of every Sarah Palin word salad rant. Its the source of the word Obamaphones, even though phone subsidies date back to Reagan. It became very blunt with Todd Starnes freaking out over Obama saying the blandest possible thing about the situation.
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Six years of whipping yourself into a paranoid frenzy is a lot of years. I dont even know if its possible for a mostly whiteand with 99% certainty, mostly conservativepolice force to meet a crowd of mostly black protesters in a calm, rational state after spending six years wallowing in this kind of paranoid thinking. If youve been waiting on tenterhooks for the violent takeover that right wing email chains have been predicting for years, is it even possible to see a bunch of peaceful protesters for who they are? Im guessing not. No, youre going to think the mythical war has finally come, and youre going to act like it.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/14/why-are-ferguson-cops-so-completely-out-of-control/
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Society almost always gives them a free hand to deal with minority issues. They know that. They can keep people of color "in their place" however they want.
global1
(25,278 posts)This is happening in a black community and we have a black president. Can you imagine if this was happening in a white community now instead of Ferguson? Think of the reaction by Right Wing America.
CanonRay
(14,119 posts)Look at the pics, they are all over the place.
NutmegYankee
(16,201 posts)They even speak to each other in such terms before going on patrol. So they make the streets a war zone.
gordianot
(15,245 posts)Look what happened in Ferguson if armed it would not have happened. My take would be if armed a massacre.
phantom power
(25,966 posts)If the Ferguson protesters had showed up armed those militarized cops would have gunned them down in the street.
gordianot
(15,245 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)simple idea that we are becoming more liberal as a nation even while we look more rw. The hand writing is on the wall - we white people are not going to be the majority for much longer - in fact I doubt that we are now since the poor, the youth and women are leaning left.
But the problem is that the rw sees this in terms of force rather than political. They are afraid of being treated the way they have always treated us "others". So they fight back by using people like the bundy militias, rw police forces, cutting resources for the poor, suppressing the vote, gerrymandering, obstructing Congress and other hurtful methods that will only backfire in the end.
They want to use force to keep control we want to use the vote to gain our point. What they are doing is counterproductive and will end badly regardless of their motives. Hopefully when we are truly in the majority we will be able to show them that their fears are groundless.
In the mean time there are some really dangerous issues that need to be addressed: black unarmed children are being killed by both civilians (Zimmerman) and police and nothing is done about it and when there is a protest about it the police act against the people. The other issue is the militarization of our police forces making them a threat instead of a protection.
Iggo
(47,574 posts)They're doing exactly what they're being told to do.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Exactamundo, iggo.
the job of the police is to protect the 1% from the rest of us. They have no other function.
TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Once institutions are broken down, discredited and deligitimized sufficiently by authoritarians, cynics and the ever-present fuck-ups, then any group, individual, LEO, and private radio blow-off can be magnified into a gas giant of power and influence.
The whole country smells like raw gasoline, and has so for years. There isn't much leadership ANYWHERE or in any form. I've seen some pretty irresponsible crap spewed in DU over the last day or two concerning Ferguson. Do some of us really want to see what has been "offered" as moral consistency on the part of those we hate? Do some of us want to see the violence we claim to abhor?
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)black lives have no value to LEOs and the legal system...Which I have tried to point out here for years...
That widespread mindset is the primary driver for everything we've seen on CNN...