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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 08:12 PM Aug 2014

Isis threatens to kill another US journalist believed to be Steven

Sotloff after beheading American journalist James Foley today.

They claim that will happen if Obama continues with the bombing campaign in Iraq.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/19/world/meast/isis-james-foley/index.html

-- snip
The video also shows another American journalist. His life is said by the militants in the video to hang in the balance, depending on what Obama does next.

The journalist is believed to be Steven Sotloff, who was kidnapped at the Syria-Turkey border in 2013. Sotloff is a contributor to Time and Foreign Policy magazines.

Sotloff


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Isis threatens to kill another US journalist believed to be Steven (Original Post) flamingdem Aug 2014 OP
Prayer for him and his family, and for our troops as some will likely be battling isis shortly 4139 Aug 2014 #1
Thank you 4139 flamingdem Aug 2014 #2
There will be lots of spotters on the ground 4139 Aug 2014 #19
Obama's needs to get one of those fedora's like Wm Hurt got in Body Heat. Peregrine Took Aug 2014 #3
Oh dear.. so terrible, flamingdem. Cha Aug 2014 #4
I remember Daniel Pearl flamingdem Aug 2014 #8
Yeah, RIP James Wright Foley~ Cha Aug 2014 #10
I can imagine the resurfacing of Iraq flamingdem Aug 2014 #13
I haven't heard he might go to Ferguson? Cha Aug 2014 #15
Yes, this was just mentioned on msnbc flamingdem Aug 2014 #17
Thanks flamingdem.. don't want to hijack the thread from Steven Sotloff and James Wright Foley.. Cha Aug 2014 #21
Thanks Cha, that's interesting flamingdem Aug 2014 #25
"Let's hope the evidence and witnesses are solid enough to avoid doubt." Fervently Cha Aug 2014 #26
And Nick Berg. nt tblue37 Aug 2014 #27
Mahalo for the reminder, tblue :( Nicholas Evan "Nick" Berg.. Cha Aug 2014 #30
Double the bombing alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #5
My first thought too. TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #6
It's not like we can trust them not to behead flamingdem Aug 2014 #11
Yep. It totally sucks to be this guy (or his family), but it's bombs-away time. TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #14
Vibes to the families and the prisoners. Vibes to everyone in ISIS' path. applegrove Aug 2014 #7
Yes, apple~ :( Cha Aug 2014 #16
I think he's a dead man no matter what. ISIS likes killing people. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #9
'zactly, not like they'll let him go flamingdem Aug 2014 #12
Horrible! My heart goes out to those who love him herding cats Aug 2014 #18
I saw photos of his family flamingdem Aug 2014 #20
Oh, damn. herding cats Aug 2014 #23
Ugh. NuclearDem Aug 2014 #22
A message from Jim's mom, Diane Foley flamingdem Aug 2014 #24
. Rex Aug 2014 #28
. riderinthestorm Aug 2014 #29
Just unbearably horrible and horrifying. nt ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #31
The poor man. Pray for him. sub.theory Aug 2014 #32

Peregrine Took

(7,413 posts)
3. Obama's needs to get one of those fedora's like Wm Hurt got in Body Heat.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 08:45 PM
Aug 2014

The shite just doesn't stop coming down on him.

Cha

(297,188 posts)
4. Oh dear.. so terrible, flamingdem.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 08:49 PM
Aug 2014

Poor James Foley.. that poor man and his family. I remember when the fucking terrorists beheaded Daniel Pearl in 2002.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pearl

And, now Steven Sotloff's life is in the balance.. What in the hell can we do about it?

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
8. I remember Daniel Pearl
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 09:15 PM
Aug 2014

such a good guy.

The only thing I can come up with is that Isis can't handle defeat. They lost the Mosul Dam and that was their first defeat. Not to be light about it but talk about Obama derangement syndrome, they are directing threats at him.

I can't imagine what they have in mind bringing the world's wrath upon themselves.

rip James

Cha

(297,188 posts)
10. Yeah, RIP James Wright Foley~
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 09:20 PM
Aug 2014


And, not this to be about President Obama .. but, no wonder he looks so tired all the time.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
13. I can imagine the resurfacing of Iraq
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 09:24 PM
Aug 2014

as a total demand on his time has generated more than a few new grey hairs.

And now he might go to Ferguson. I think he needs to extend his vacation!

Cha

(297,188 posts)
15. I haven't heard he might go to Ferguson?
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 09:30 PM
Aug 2014

Reschedule his vacation at a time when the world isn't exploding.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
17. Yes, this was just mentioned on msnbc
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 09:32 PM
Aug 2014

Can't remember if it was Rachel or Chris Hayes show but someone said they are "considering" a trip to Ferguson for Obama, no information about when? If I hear more I'll update!

Cha

(297,188 posts)
21. Thanks flamingdem.. don't want to hijack the thread from Steven Sotloff and James Wright Foley..
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 09:48 PM
Aug 2014

but I found this while searching for "Obama going to Ferguson-Maddow"..

When Holder will say what Obama will not

"President Obama held a brief press conference in the White House yesterday to address two major topics: developments in Iraq, where there’s been some noticeable progress, and conditions in Ferguson, Missouri. On the former, the president was focused and specific. On the latter, Obama was vague and cautious.

This almost certainly wasn’t an accident. Ezra Klein had a terrific piece yesterday noting many of the reasons the president “won’t give the Ferguson speech his supporters want.” There’s a fair amount to this, much of it having to do with the White House’s belief that Obama’s remarks on racially-charged conflicts tend to make those problems worse."

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/when-holder-will-say-what-obama-will-not

I hope you don't mind.. if you do I'll edit.

Steven Sotloff~James Foley Wright

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
25. Thanks Cha, that's interesting
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 10:11 PM
Aug 2014

and it seems that it might be best to be cautious unless resolution looks impossible.

I heard this but it was not from one of the hosts on MSNBC so it might have not been very accurate.

The country is going to be pretty divided on this so I can see them being super, super careful!

Let's hope the evidence and witnesses are solid enough to avoid doubt.

Cha

(297,188 posts)
30. Mahalo for the reminder, tblue :( Nicholas Evan "Nick" Berg..
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 10:46 PM
Aug 2014

Nicholas Evan "Nick" Berg (April 2, 1978 – May 7, 2004) was an American businessman who went to Iraq after the US invasion of Iraq. He was abducted and executed according to a video released in May 2004 by Islamist militants in response to the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse involving the United States Army and Iraqi prisoners. The CIA claims Berg was personally murdered by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.[1] The decapitation video was released on the Internet, reportedly from London to a Malaysian-hosted homepage by the Islamist organization, al-Ansars.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Berg

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
11. It's not like we can trust them not to behead
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 09:20 PM
Aug 2014

the other journalist just because they say they will.. so what is their point anyway.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
12. 'zactly, not like they'll let him go
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 09:23 PM
Aug 2014

if the bombing starts.

Looks like they didn't think they'd ever lose Mosul Dam and now that Allah has let them down they're off their game. Still, they could find many recruits because they might be considered to have scared the American devil with their threats.

They give new recruits a cell phone and other goodies apparently.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
18. Horrible! My heart goes out to those who love him
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 09:35 PM
Aug 2014

They just (allegedly) murdered a man by cutting off his head slowly with a short blade. We should trust them why exactly? They're ruthless killers in the name of their fundamentalism with no regard for human suffering or life. My gut says they'll kill everyone they can, in the wost way they can come up with, so long as it gains them some media attention and furthers their cause.

I feel powerless. I really hate that feeling.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
23. Oh, damn.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 09:54 PM
Aug 2014

I know that can leave scars on a person. I'm a total coward and have avoided seeing the families this time. I made myself look before in the past and I can't do it again just now. I can imagine their suffering too vividly without seeing their faces at night as well. Things like these haunt me and heart. I have too much empathy I've been told.

I share your broken heart.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
24. A message from Jim's mom, Diane Foley
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 10:08 PM
Aug 2014
https://www.facebook.com/FindJamesFoley

A message from Jim's mom, Diane Foley:

We have never been prouder of our son Jim. He gave his life trying to expose the world to the suffering of the Syrian people.

We implore the kidnappers to spare the lives of the remaining hostages. Like Jim, they are innocents. They have no control over American government policy in Iraq, Syria or anywhere in the world.

We thank Jim for all the joy he gave us. He was an extraordinary son, brother, journalist and person. Please respect our privacy in the days ahead as we mourn and cherish Jim.

sub.theory

(652 posts)
32. The poor man. Pray for him.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 10:56 PM
Aug 2014

Unfortunately, I don't think there is any way that the monsters in ISIS won't kill this man. I pray for this man and his family. Like so many other innocents that have lost their life to these animals.

I'm starting to think that ISIS is the new 3rd Reich - an army of pure evil.

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