What They Saw: 5 Eyewitnesses to the Michael Brown Shooting

[Uncle Joe]

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/08/_5_eyewitness_accounts_of_michael_brown_s_shooting.html

1. Dorian Johnson, Michael Brown’s friend.

The two men told the officer that they were only minutes away from their destination. Johnson said that Wilson backed up his car and asked Brown and Johnson what they just said. Johnson claimed that Wilson then tried to open his car door but the door ricocheted off of Brown’s body and closed again.

(snip)

Johnson said that Wilson got out of his car and began to shoot at Brown while Brown was running away. Brown then stopped, put his hands in the air, turned around and pleaded with the officer to stop shooting, since he didn’t have a gun.

Johnson said that Wilson continued to fire several more shots before Brown’s body fell to the ground.

2. Tiffany Mitchell, who was visiting her employee in a nearby apartment complex.

(snip)

During an interview with MSNBC, Mitchell said she was driving when she saw the confrontation at the point when Brown and Wilson were wrestling through the window. “Brown was pushing, trying to get away from the officer,” Mitchell explained, “and the officer was trying to pull him in.”

(snip)

“Michael’s body jerked as if he were hit,” Mitchell said. “Then he turns around and put his hands up, and the officer continued to walk up on him and shoot him, until he goes all the way down to the ground.”

There is more on the link.

[Live and Learn]

1. Please, we all know that Darren Wilson's friends know what really happened.

Who needs eyewitnesses?

[Uncle Joe]

3. I hear you, Live and Learn.

[Uncle Joe]

4. Welcome to D.U. Advey.

What was your take from the autopsy findings?

[Cali_Democrat]

35. Well he came and went....

*poof*

[Uncle Joe]

50. It's like magic and stuff.

[IdaBriggs]

6. The corrupt police officer shot AT HIS BACK while he was running.

It is believed the arm graze from the autopsy is when he was hit first. He then turned around and was gunned down with his hands in the air.

You can read about the cop previous employment history here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025411848

Reading comprehension is important; it is why liberals support education.

[IdaBriggs]

13. You aren't actually informed about this, are you?

Start here http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025406416 then come back.

[uppityperson]

16. Coroners describe what they find, objectively. They leave it to others to determine what it

means. They give objective facts, typically do not draw conclusions.

[lunasun]

36. Thanks for both links and I rec'd them

[IdaBriggs]

38. Thank you!

Nice to know a troll was good for something!

ON EDIT: The troll is obviously not a reference to you (just in case I was being confusing), but the person I was originally responding to who has left us, care of MIRT.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

48. me too. those are two very excellent posts on this. Thanks, Ida Biggs.

and thank lunasun for giving me the idea to rec them, too.

[ReRe]

5. Thanks Uncle Joe...

... and you know that there was probably more. Those are just the ones who came forward. We have no idea if there were others that didn't come forward until the FBI found them by going door-to-door canvasing the neighborhood and handing out those dandy little calling cards.

AG Holder is in town today. Let's hope Wilson has been contacted and told to be ready... that he will be picked up today.

Think positive and if things don't turn out well, work like hell to turn it around!

[Uncle Joe]

7. Thank you, ReRe, I'm also hoping that if Nixon doesn't remove Prosecutor McCullough from this case

that McCullough recuses himself, but I doubt that will happen.

This is post #1 by SunSeeker on a thread by Lloyd.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014875189

Regardless of his cop relatives, this prosecutor has shown bias in this type of case.

He publicly complained when Gov. Nixon put the Highway Patrol in charge of handling Ferguson protests, saying it "denigrated" the local police and was "illegal."

http://www.vox.com/2014/8/14/6004631/the-st-louis-county-prosecutor-doesnt-approve-of-the-leadership

Then there is the 2001 incident in which two suspected drug dealers were killed by two police officers, McCulloch never brought charges against the officers, concluding they acted in self-defense. A subsequent federal investigation found that the two African American men were unarmed and not moving in the direction of the officers, but because the officers felt endangered, the investigation found that the shootings were justified. Angered by protests over the failure to prosecute, McColluch called the two men killed "bums" who "spread destruction in the community."

http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/st-louis-prosecutor-has-faced-controversy-for-decades/article_cdd4c104-6086-506e-9ee8-aa957a31fee5.html?mobile_touch=true

I hope Holder and the FBI do a broad and thorough investigation.

Rock on, ReRe.

[avebury]

9. Governor Nixon is too much of a wimp to call

for McCullogh to step aside and appoint a special prosecutor. If the shooter is not successfully prosecuted and convicted, Nixon will never have a chance at any nationwide office after this.

[Uncle Joe]

12. I also believe that if Nixon doesn't appoint a special prosecutor his chances

at a nationwide office will be eliminated as a Democrat, but he might become a Republican.

[Dustlawyer]

21. McCullough is suddenly taking his case to the Grand Jury so they will say, too late, might as well

let him proceed instead of appointing a Special Prosecutor.

[Uncle Joe]

49. I've already read on another post that Crump can't remove McCullough per the MO state

constitution.

[avebury]

33. But if he cannot win over the independents, his

potential on the national scene is DOA. He would be toxic as a potential VP candidate. His political career is pretty much over unless he can get Missourians to vote him into Congress or the Senate. Beyond that, his career his political career is over.

[smiley]

19. wrong

we're asking for due process. As of now there has been none.

Discussing the events on a discussion board does not constitute anyone requesting death without trial.

The only lack of due process going on was when an unarmed man lost his life on the streets of Ferguson. No one has been arrested for this act yet.

[blackspade]

20. Oh, please.

No one is even insinuating that.

Enjoy your short stay....

[delphi72]

23. You need to read a bit more

Last edited Wed Aug 20, 2014, 11:07 AM - Edit history (1)

It is all over the place. Wilson (police officer) is alredy convicted - the only question is what his sentence will be. Do you dispute that?

Edited. Had the name wrong.

[Quayblue]

28. Brown is dead

[smokey nj]

30. Indeed. Officer Wilson was his judge, jury, and executioner

[blackspade]

34. Sorry, fail.

That is not what you said.
Perhaps you need to cool off and be objective about the evidence.
Here is plenty to charge the cop with in his case.
That is what folks are demanding.

[Rex]

37. Yes thank you for admitting you already have convicted Brown in your mind.

Or is it that you are clueless as to what you are talking about, clearly you don't think before you type.

[delphi72]

43. Govie Already Has Wilson At Fault

"Missouri gov calls for 'vigorous prosecution' of Ferguson shooting case"

How about a 'vigorous investigation'? I guess the Govvie is moonlighting as a Grand Jury.

[SammyWinstonJack]

46. Govvie? How adorable.

[JTFrog]

45. Textbook Freudian response.

Nice edit.

[Quayblue]

47. I was thinking that myself

[BklnDem75]

24. Adorable...

We'll settle for an arrest. Thanks

[Enthusiast]

32. "Just take the cop out and shoot him in the head."

Ferguson has become ridiculous. Haven't you read about the racially motivated traffic stops? This is beyond dispute. This is not speculation. Ferguson police have engaged in institutionalized racial profiling for years!

Expecting a simple arrest of the officer is not at all unreasonable. Of course if one watches Fox "News", and accepts their nonsense, they might believe otherwise.

[Bettie]

39. What we're asking for is due process

You know, that thing that Mike Brown didn't get?

[In_The_Wind]

44. I can't believe you seriously think this is ok!

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[avebury]

8. Isn't there another witness (who was at the scene)

who came forward and talked to the Feds but who has not been publicly identified? I thought that I heard something about that.

[Uncle Joe]

10. There might be, avebury and possibly more will come forward as this process proceeds.

Peace to you.

[vlyons]

17. Nixon refuses to appoint a special prosecutor

What is wrong with that Gov Nixon? I'm sorry, but from everything that he has said and shown me, I conclude that he is a coward. You folks in MO know him best. Why won't he appoint a spec. pros? What's the deal?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

41. A special prosecutor takes away the ability of the corrupt to continue their corruption. nt

[bigdarryl]

18. ALL of the witnesses say this kid was running away not this rightwing bullshit we are hearing that

Brown was running at Wilson full force after being shot 4 times in the arm.How the fuck are you going to be running full force after being shot.They talk like this boy was some super human black man UNBELIEVABLE!!!

[Tommymac]

26. The Authorities have to spin it like Brown was Superman

Only way Wilson gets a pass.

Fortunately We The People have the internet and are able to fight their distortions.

Support True Net Neutrality.

Support Justice for Mike Brown - arrest Darren Wilson immediately for Murder 2.

[Bettie]

40. Oh, I'm certain they'll come up with

a busload of white suburban guys who just 'happened' to be in the neighborhood and saw the whole thing, from their hidden vantage point and "saw" exactly what the cop told them to see.

[Buddha2B]

22. The right wingers are all over this case

All of them working overtime to support the killer and paint brown as the enemy.

It's quite sickening.

[Tommymac]

27. +1

[cantbeserious]

25. The Character Assassination Of Michael Brown Is In Full Swing

eom

[malaise]

29. Great post Uncle Joe

Rec

[Enthusiast]

31. Kicked and recommended!

Thank you, Uncle Joe.

[Uncle Joe]

51. Thanks for the thanks, Enthusiast.

Peace to you.

[MohRokTah]

42. The only eyewitness that will matter is Darren Wilson

The wingnuts have already started the thugification of these witnesses.

[Uncle Joe]

52. I have no doubt they will try to whittle down the number of witnesses

for the prosecution.

This case would've been a lot easier if they had required their police officers to wear shirt cameras while on duty.

I believe the federal government should issue or sell at a major discount shirt cameras for all the nation's police instead of going ape shit over militarization.

[Uncle Joe]

55. This tragedy may not even have occured, had that been the case.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/07/153997-california-towns-simple-solution-police-brutality-lowered-use-force-60-percent/

California Town’s Simple Solution To Police Brutality Has Lowered Use Of Force By 60 Percent

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Take the city of Rialto, California, for instance. In February 2012, the city’s 70 police officers had to take part in a controlled study, obligating them to wear a tiny camera that filmed all their interactions with the public. The results were incredible: In the first year of the cameras’ introduction, complaints against Rialto police officers fell by 88%, while use of force by officers fell by almost 60%.


“When you put a camera on a police officer, they tend to behave a little better, follow the rules a little better,” Rialto Police Chief William A. Farrar told the New York Times. “And if a citizen knows the officer is wearing a camera, chances are the citizen will behave a little better.”

(snip)

More on the link.

[Cha]

53. K

[Ruby the Liberal]

54. Wow - thats pretty crystal clear, IMO

Thanks for posting that link.

[Uncle Joe]

56. I feel the same way, Ruby.

Thanks for the thanks.

[Duppers]

57. k & r

Thanks for the thread, Uncle Joe.

[Uncle Joe]

58. I don't know if you have seen it or not but I believe alcibiades_mystery has a nice working analysis

on this thread, Part 1.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5416457

Wilson's Story Stands or Falls on the Sick Call and the Radio Dispatches

Thanks for the thanks, Duppers and peace to you.

[Duppers]

59. Thank you!

Am reading it now, thanks to you.

Peace.