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theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 08:15 PM Aug 2014

James Foley beheading suspect probably British, David Cameron says

BBC News
20 August 2014
James Foley beheading suspect probably British, David Cameron says

David Cameron has said it looks "increasingly likely" a man thought to have been involved in a US journalist's beheading is British, as UK police try to confirm the militant's identity...

...Mr Cameron, who returned from holiday to chair emergency meetings with Home and Foreign Office officials, said the killer had not yet been identified but said it was "deeply shocking" that he appeared to be British.

"Let's be clear what this act is - it is an act of murder, and murder without any justification," he told BBC political editor Nick Robinson.

The PM said "far too many" British citizens had travelled to Syria and Iraq to take part in the fighting there and the government would "redouble all our efforts" to stop people going....

MORE at http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28873051
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Loudly

(2,436 posts)
1. They need to solicit tips from the public who it might be.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 08:19 PM
Aug 2014

And determine what his passport looks like.

And identify what country he departs from in his attempt, if any, to return to the UK.

And scrutinize every passenger coming from that place for possible terrorist infiltrators.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. Right. Ratchet up the fear factor because of a possible English accent which no one can bloody fake.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 08:28 PM
Aug 2014

ISIS would not do that level of fakery, would they?

I hate politicians who stir up fear for personal political gain, lazy asses.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
3. That's 100% a British accent.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 08:42 PM
Aug 2014

London, specifically (probably the East End). The vowels and other features are distinctive. The pronunciation of "against" and "been", for instance, and the velarisation of dark "L" in "result" (so that it sounds almost like "resuwt&quot ; that last especially is a feature that pretty much conclusively places the accent.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
5. It's known that some of the ISIS fighters are in fact from the UK, so I am not surprised by this.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 09:02 PM
Aug 2014

A British soldier was beheaded in the UK, on the street outside his barracks, by extremists; that one has gone to Iraq and is doing things like this is not something that's implausible at all.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
6. You can do a voice over tape in Timbuktoo and just send it in......where is the evidence?
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 09:24 PM
Aug 2014

You are engaging in pure speculation and flights of fanciful dot connection, just like your PM, just like ISIS intended, perhaps.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
7. You're the one engaging in pure speculation and flights of fancy.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 09:34 PM
Aug 2014

He's already been verified by a former ISIS hostage speaking to the Guardian as being British:

As an international manhunt got under way on Wednesday, the English-speaking militant was identified to the Guardian by one of his former hostages as the ringleader of three British jihadists thought to be the main guards of foreign nationals in Raqqa, a stronghold of Islamic State (Isis) rebels.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/20/isis-militant-islamic-state-james-foley-guards-british

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. That is the latest story. One former hostage who believes he knows who it is...still not convinced.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 10:08 PM
Aug 2014

Why call in a linguistic speech expert if they already who it is?

All I am saying is do not jump to conclusions, the evidence is not clear who it is and the source has ulterior motives...to sow the very fear you seem to want.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
9. Who said anything about "fear"? I'm not especially afraid.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 10:13 PM
Aug 2014

Yes, it's confirmed that some number of Britons are among the extremists fighting in Syria and Iraq. But then there are probably Americans, as well (remember Anwar al-Awlaki?)

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
10. Occam's razor.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 10:14 PM
Aug 2014

Yes, the guy could have trained for a year to do a perfect East End accent. Or they could have dubbed a voiceover to the video with editing software, being careful to synchronize the voice and lips precisely.

But, you know, they didn't. Why bother? The dude was from London.

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