Maybe (Duh) The Libertarian Movement Does Not Really Exist

[kpete]

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/08/25/in-search-of-libertarians/http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/pew-research-libertarian-study

[Cirque du So-What]

1. I've really come to dislike that term - libertarian

In my misguided youth, I would have considered being called a 'libertarian' a compliment. After all, what's not to like about liberty, right? I'm not sure exactly when it happened, but those who identified as libertarian seemed to have more concern for the rights of corporations to run roughshod over the population than they have for individuals.

[OnyxCollie]

4. Propaganda mouthpieces conflate government regulations (often to protect individuals)

with attacks on "liberty" and gullible libertarians eat that right up.

Graphic warnings on cigarette packages? That's an attack on liberty!

I stopped talking to a coworker over that stupid shit.

[BainsBane]

2. Lately they call themselves "leftists"

Of course they aren't. It's simply rebranding.

[OnyxCollie]

3. As for the first poll,

it's unlikely that many "know {the} term's meaning," or at least, not the correct meaning.

Based on past studies, the majority of the electorate don't fully understand political ideology (and that includes self-identified liberals.)

[upaloopa]

5. Does anyone ever think through what this country

would be like if we put Libertarian ideas into practice? Anyone can cause any environmental damage they want for a start. We need clean air to breathe and clean water to drink. Where does it come from in a Libertarian world?

[PeoViejo]

6. Those who can afford it, get clean Air and Water

The rest of us eat shite and die.