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wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 06:34 PM Aug 2014

Where is the 'progressive' outrage at Paul undermining Obama's Foreign Policy?

According to Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), he recently traveled to Central America where he, among other things, met with Guatemalan President Otto Perez Molina for 45 minutes and discussed politics with the foreign head of state. By his own account, the senator not only condemned President Obama for the recent humanitarian crisis along the U.S./Mexico border, Paul also hoped to undermine U.S. foreign policy during his discussion with Molina.

For reasons I don’t fully understand, this generated very little attention in the political world. American norms dictate that U.S. officials, when traveling abroad, don’t trash the United States while on foreign soil. For that matter, the notion of an American elected official conducting his own freelance foreign policy, working against the U.S. position while meeting with a foreign head of state, seems ridiculous on its face.

According to Rand Paul’s office:

* Elected American politicians can go abroad to undermine U.S. foreign policy so long as the politicians believe what they’re saying is “the truth.”

* Republicans may have considered it scandalous for Americans to travel abroad and condemn U.S. policy from foreign soil, but now only “career politicians and political parties” care about such traditional American norms.

* Using prosecutorial discretion to allow Dream Act kids to avoid deportation is evidence of “shredding” the Constitution.

* Border security has improved to levels unseen in modern American history, which serves as evidence of the “abdication of responsibility for securing our border.”

If there’s any policy coherence to Rand Paul’s take on this, I can’t find it.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/rand-pauls-curious-defense-undermining-us-foreign-policy

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Where is the 'progressive' outrage at Paul undermining Obama's Foreign Policy? (Original Post) wyldwolf Aug 2014 OP
Where's the non-progressive outrage? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #1
Right here - and I might add... wyldwolf Aug 2014 #2
Paul's a total tool. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #3
So it's all really about your outrage that others are not supportive of HRCs run for President Marrah_G Aug 2014 #4
No it's actually about exactly what I just posted wyldwolf Aug 2014 #5
And that's the gist of what you posted Marrah_G Aug 2014 #7
We expect Republicans to trash the President's foreign policy. Laelth Aug 2014 #6

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. Where's the non-progressive outrage?
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 06:38 PM
Aug 2014

Ie, why are you poking a stick specifically at progressives, as opposed to everyone else? Paul's a complete idiot. I don't waste my time being outraged at the stupidity of Virginia Foxx or Louie Gohmert either. I just know they're total idiots.

Does everything you post have to be used as a poke at the people you sneer at as being 'progressive'?

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
2. Right here - and I might add...
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 06:44 PM
Aug 2014

... I would expect at least a little grumbling from 'progressives' after their amazing display of faux outrage at Hillary Clinton's Atlantic interview.

But no, as many suspected, the content of that interview wasn't the real issue - it was that Clinton had given the interview and we know how anything she does is viewed
under a microscope in progressive attempts to score electoral brownie points.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. Paul's a total tool.
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 06:53 PM
Aug 2014

A dangerous tool, but a tool nonetheless, so I'm not at all surprised he's trying to undermine the Pres. It's a favourite pastime of people like McCain, Graham, and so on.

I had to go read the Atlantic to find out about what you were referencing Clinton. Now that I have, I'm not sure I'd say I'm 'outraged' - it was just more Clinton sabre rattling, nothing new there. Everybody already knew she wanted to keep the MIC in business.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
4. So it's all really about your outrage that others are not supportive of HRCs run for President
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 06:59 PM
Aug 2014

Ever occur to you that a lot of people here are looking for a DEMOCRATIC candidate besides Hillary that fits their stance on issues? Instead you are just mad as hell that others don't agree with you so you try to paint them as Rand Paul supporters.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
6. We expect Republicans to trash the President's foreign policy.
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 07:01 PM
Aug 2014

It's a little more puzzling coming from HRC.



-Laelth

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